滑雪天才的第 2 年, 他現在已成師了.

[ams]

YouTube- Year Two
大師, 他滑得可以嗎? btw, 2:14 有獨腳戲. :face (334):

[norman]

這個就是下面這討論串他本人呀。我要講的都在裏面了。

http://www.goski.com.tw/forum/showthread.php?t=284


下面這串中有他進步的經歷影片：

http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/73690/movement-analysis-request


我覺得他的不是他夠厲害，就是教他的人真的很厲害。從中就可看出他姿勢歸零的動作練得很好，所以技術進步的就很快。

雖然這兩年的影片還不夠好，我也看得出來他的饅頭技術，還沒有pku兄的領隊厲害，但再給他1年的時間，如果那領隊的技術再沒進步，就會被這位aareses超過了。

Aareses的動作正確性很高，所以他的進步是可以很快的，只要他沒有中途腦筋出問題去練錯的動作就好。

大家可以拿他的每個進步的階段影片來參考，很有參考的價值。

[ams]

我覺得他的不是他夠厲害，就是教他的人真的很厲害我也聽過這說法, 跟誰學的便像誰, 他後期的師傅不知是否 rick 大師:face (46):, 他滑單腳的動作很像 大師rick. :face (334):

[skier666]

不是講技術:face (353):rick 滑雪真的夠難看:face (6):看他各式drill都可以做得很好:face (330):但是滑起雪來怎這難看:face (46):

[ams]

不是講技術:face (353):rick 滑雪真的夠難看:face (6):看他各式drill都可以做得很好:face (330):但是滑起雪來怎這難看:face (46):這正是 Harald Harb 攻擊他的主要要害. 其實是可以解釋的, 但他私下也教了我不小技術, 我不能亂談. :face (334):

[norman]

練習動作做的好，也是要能融合，但如果能融合又模仿漂亮的動作，自然就漂亮了，不過我常看到練了也沒有的練習，及練習了反而有害的動作，那還不如不要練囉。:face (341):

[pku]

這個就是下面這討論串他本人呀。我要講的都在裏面了。

http://www.goski.com.tw/forum/showthread.php?t=284


下面這串中有他進步的經歷影片：

http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/73690/movement-analysis-request


我覺得他的不是他夠厲害，就是教他的人真的很厲害。從中就可看出他姿勢歸零的動作練得很好，所以技術進步的就很快。

雖然這兩年的影片還不夠好，我也看得出來他的饅頭技術，還沒有pku兄的領隊厲害，但再給他1年的時間，如果那領隊的技術再沒進步，就會被這位aareses超過了。

Aareses的動作正確性很高，所以他的進步是可以很快的，只要他沒有中途腦筋出問題去練錯的動作就好。

大家可以拿他的每個進步的階段影片來參考，很有參考的價值。

Our leader is not young anymore ( over 50 ) and has quite a bit of health problem,. It is very easy to 超過 他.

But we still have few younger member ski very good and they may be hard to beat since they are still young and they also can improve fast with the help of our leader.

[norman]

Our leader is not young anymore ( over 50 ) and has quite a bit of health problem,. It is very easy to 超過 他.

But we still have few younger member ski very good and they may be hard to beat since they are still young and they also can improve fast with the help of our leader.

嗯嗯，一個好的教練，也許個人技術不夠強，但知識性及方法變通性強，也是一樣能教出很厲害的學生。

說真的，我要是到他這年齡，我真的算是個軟腳蝦了。他能這樣滑饅頭真的很厲害。

:face (330):

Ps. 我沒有損人的意思，我只是以進步的速度來看，但我相信您們領隊動作一定會再更上一層樓的。

[ams]

....they are still young and they also can improve fast with the help of our leader.如你們的 leader 能跟我們一起談談技術, 相信我們都會得益不淺. :face (334):

[pku]

如你們的 leader 能跟我們一起談談技術, 相信我們都會得益不淺. :face (334):

As Norman大師 said, his skiing is not that good. 談技術 is better to do it with 大師

He always said to learn skiing, you need to ski, not talk because a lot of technique is a feeling. For example, you feel the bump, that you flex and absorb it. If you see the bumps and try to ski there and absorb it, timing won't be right.

If you come to ski on Whistler, for sure he'll ski with you and share his experience with you.

He always said he still doesn't understand a lot in skiing so he is not qualify as a teacher.

Norman 大師 knows much more.

[skier666]

As Norman大師 said, his 談skiing is not that good. 談技術 is better to do it with 大師

He always said to learn skiing, you need to ski, not talk because a lot of technique is a feeling. For example, you feel the bump, that you flex and absorb it. If you see the bumps and try to ski there and absorb it, timing won't be right.

If you come to ski on Whistler, for sure he'll ski with you and share his experience with you.

He always said he still doesn't understand a lot in skiing so he is not qualify as a teacher.

Norman 大師 knows much more 超出大師能力，不懂技術.

我幫你訂正好了

[pku]

我幫你訂正好了

Thanks for your help!

[ams]

As Norman大師 said, his skiing is not that good. 談技術 is better to do it with 大師各位大師也太客氣了，　可能得道之人都有這得質？　

He always said to learn skiing, you need to ski, not talk because a lot of technique is a feeling.這點我只能半同意，　雖然我也搞不通該怎麼樣滑雪和學滑雪，　但．．　很多人用不同方法談滑雪，　（老）小弟還是受教不小的，　當然有些人的理論我始終是學不會也乾脆不學的．:face (334):　

[skier666]

技術到一個程度後，不管你用什麽方法，一年沒滑20幾天是很難再進步的。滑雪一天，大部份時間是在等或坐攬車，真正滑的時間可能不到2小時。 如果練樂器，一天2小時，一年只練20幾天，是不會進步的。滑雪也是一樣

[pku]

技術到一個程度後，不管你用什麽方法，一年沒滑20幾天是很難再進步的。滑雪一天，大部份時間是在等或坐攬車，真正滑的時間可能不到2小時。 如果練樂器，一天2小時，一年只練20幾天，是不會進步的。滑雪也是一樣


Totally agree!

That's the hard part of skiing , too much time consuming and season is short, for us maximun 6 monthes, onece a week is around 25 times a year. I think on snow skiing is less than 2 hours a day.

But Norman 大師 is an exemption, he ski one day is better than I ski 20 days:face (50):

[norman]

But Norman 大師 is an exemption, he ski one day is better than I ski 20 days:face (50):

這是因為我每次去滑雪都有在記錄及實驗細節動作，所以我很清楚我在滑什麼及做什麼細節變動會有什麼差別，這也是我的眼力會蠻不錯的原因囉。

[ams]

這是因為我每次去滑雪都有在記錄及實驗細節動作，所以我很清楚我在滑什麼及做什麼細節變動會有什麼差別，這也是我的眼力會蠻不錯的原因囉。利害, 利害, 簡直就令我聯想起張無忌, 大師竟然能達到如此境界, 恭喜,恭喜:face (330):

[pku]

這是因為我每次去滑雪都有在記錄及實驗細節動作，所以我很清楚我在滑什麼及做什麼細節變動會有什麼差別，這也是我的眼力會蠻不錯的原因囉。

So you ski 57days should be better than a skier skiing 20 years ( 30 days a year ) :face (334):

As your eyes are so good, you should be able to tell the difference of the following videos

ns01.flv video by normankiss - Photobucket

is.flv video by normankiss - Photobucket

[ams]

其實我不喜歡第2片中的屈腰動作, 看起來是一補救 backward balance 的不好行為. :face (334):

[skier666]

大師滑雪只需2個動作。一個是9級的石像，另一個是 up unweight

[norman]

So you ski 57days should be better than a skier skiing 20 years ( 30 days a year ) :face (334):

As your eyes are so good, you should be able to tell the difference of the following videos

ns01.flv video by normankiss - Photobucket (http://s449.photobucket.com/albums/qq218/normankiss/?action=view&current=ns01.flv)

is.flv video by normankiss - Photobucket (http://s449.photobucket.com/albums/qq218/normankiss/?action=view&current=is.flv)

這兩段影片比較，我的就是過度面谷，同時重心比例有些偏40%60，造成輕度山傾。:face (341):

[pku]

這兩段影片比較，我的就是過度面谷，同時重心比例有些偏40%60，造成輕度山傾。:face (341):

You only try to incline to get your feet away to make your similiar to pro posture and you take a lot of time to do it. Basically you use your unperbody to make the inclination.

The other video is a medium large video turn, the guy extend his feet to the side to creat the required pressure and achieve the inclination and keep steer the skis ( add more edging and pivotiing ) He also gradually swing the pole but you just freeze there.

造成山傾 mainly because of inclination without angulation, not 過度面谷

過度面谷 mostly affecting the way of the lower joints, but you don't know how to use the lower joint's competely.

You only know how to imitate the pro's posture in a split second and try to convince people how good you are.

You won't feel ashame so just keep posting. There is much more posting than the other Chinese Forum.

[skier666]

We'd have far less conversation if he were a good skier or had less ego.

[ams]

We'd have far less conversation if he were a good skier or had less ego.We cant say he is not a good skier. 只是未證實吧? 眾 epic 大師還說他會滑c彎呢. 在他的學派他是師祖, 只是得不到其他學派承認, Harald Harb 也好像不承認 rick 和 bb 會滑雪啊. 但總得要能在黑線安全下來才能算會滑啊, 可惜沒有人能幫大師拍個片證實一下. :face (50)::face (334):

[skier666]

We cant say he is not a good skier. 只是未證實吧? 眾 epic 大師還說他會滑c彎呢. 在他的學派他是師祖, 只是得不到其他學派承認, Harald Harb 也好像不承認 rick 和 bb 會滑雪啊. 但總得要能在黑線安全下來才能算會滑啊, 可惜沒有人能幫大師拍個片證實一下. :face (50)::face (334):

我想他們不認同對方的教法，但是因該沒有否認對方的滑雪技術。hh 與 bb 以前交情還相當不錯

[ams]

我想他們不認同對方的教法，但是因該沒有否認對方的滑雪技術。hh 與 bb 以前交情還相當不錯可能私底下的交情很好, 但商業上的競爭還是難免的, 這是
hh 說的:
BB’s analysis of racing is wrong, his way of teaching skiing screws skiers up for life and his skiing is mediocre at best. Those are the facts as I see them.
linked from: http://pmts.org/pmtsforum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2217&p=21735&hilit=bob+barnes#p21765

[ams]

正在想如這位天才的片出現在 pmts, 應該會被評得一文不值. 哈哈. :face (334):

[norman]

You only try to incline to get your feet away to make your similiar to pro posture and you take a lot of time to do it. Basically you use your unperbody to make the inclination.

The other video is a medium large video turn, the guy extend his feet to the side to creat the required pressure and achieve the inclination and keep steer the skis ( add more edging and pivotiing ) He also gradually swing the pole but you just freeze there.

造成山傾 mainly because of inclination without angulation, not 過度面谷

過度面谷 mostly affecting the way of the lower joints, but you don't know how to use the lower joint's competely.

You only know how to imitate the pro's posture in a split second and try to convince people how good you are.

You won't feel ashame so just keep posting. There is much more posting than the other Chinese Forum.

這是因為我在練重心壓力的調整(這個我之前就有提過了)，所以想調50%50%，結果不小心變成40%60%，從中讓我檢查出原因來，算是一種收獲。

下次我去滑雪時，要再調回80%20%，然後還要來來回回調重心比例，這是在練我對重心控制的靈敏度，所以有些是無法避免的。

[pku]

這是因為我在練重心壓力的調整(這個我之前就有提過了)，所以想調50%50%，結果不小心變成40%60%，從中讓我檢查出原因來，算是一種收獲。

下次我去滑雪時，要再調回80%20%，然後還要來來回回調重心比例，這是在練我對重心控制的靈敏度，所以有些是無法避免的。

You try to fix one simple thing, then creat so many other problems. Then how can you make your turns perfect?

[taichiskiing]

可能私底下的交情很好, 但商業上的競爭還是難免的, 這是
hh 說的:

BB’s analysis of racing is wrong, his way of teaching skiing screws skiers up for life and his skiing is mediocre at best. Those are the facts as I see them.


linked from: http://pmts.org/pmtsforum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2217&p=21735&hilit=bob+barnes#p21765

Yup, that's what makes HH so "unprofessional," as his skiing is not any better than BB.

:)
IS

[skier666]

可能私底下的交情很好, 但商業上的競爭還是難免的, 這是
hh 說的:

linked from: http://pmts.org/pmtsforum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2217&p=21735&hilit=bob+barnes#p21765

It seems most of his followers are still far from his level even after years on the forum and taking the camp. He has a few students ski exceptionally well though

[ams]

It seems most of his followers are still far from his level even after years on the forum and taking the camp. He has a few students ski exceptionally well though你的觀察力很強, 我的師傅告訴我 pmts 不教 unweighting 只教 release. 但高級的 pmts 滑雪方法又包含了 down unweighting. 所以 die-hard follower 只能滑出 release 彎. 這可從彎的大小看出來, 他們一般都滑不了短彎的. 主因是沒有 unweighting 會導致雪板還沒往邊跑已經被雪咬住了. 但要解決這問題又不容易, 因為 release 和 unweighting 是很難共存的. 所以 HH 又叫他的弟子不要學 up-unweighting. 形成了一個死結. :face (334):

[以上意見不是我的意見. ]:face (47):