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舊 2011-04-05, 01:21 AM   #61
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You have yet to qualify your powder, tree, and steep skiing, gapper.

YouTube - Flatboarding/Line-skiing: off-piste, Maggie's canyon, right traverse, Heavenly


Yes, I call that L4 performance, with or without XISA titles.

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So funny you got stuck in the trees, 0: 23-0:28 why don't you use you 太極劍法 to cut the branches

And you lost the sight of your friend, so funny

You consider his skiing L-4

Since you can't keep up with him , you consider him L4

You really got a mental problem.

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舊 2011-04-05, 01:31 AM   #62
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叫鬼呀?胡亂叫,懶得的跟你計較,沒水準的人才會這樣子沒禮貌。

我敢說,你連下面這個動作都看不懂,難怪點杖跟併腿的動作那麼差。

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He start the turn with a good position and look smooth but he is rotating too much so he turns so quickly across the falline and hard to make the new turns fast. If not because the snow is light and good , he'll have a big problem.

You need to watch more carefully and encounter more snow condition before you comment. Go skiing more.
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舊 2011-04-05, 02:15 AM   #63
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It is high end because each turn ends with an over rotation to park and ride. Only Norman can appreciate it. There are a lot of back seat and banking going on. Same as Norman. I guess that is the kind of skiing they like and that is fine by me

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舊 2011-04-05, 11:28 AM   #64
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So funny you got stuck in the trees, 0: 23-0:28 why don't you use you 太極劍法 to cut the branches

And you lost the sight of your friend, so funny

You consider his skiing L-4

Since you can't keep up with him , you consider him L4
Problem was not in the trees, but 2' powder underfoot, and poles didn't help.

Yes, my friend is one of the best skiers around Heavenly, and he is fast, (way too fast for you, care to guess how fast he usually skis?) and the best powder, trees skier I've ever skied with. So, yes, he is very L4. If you were me, you may just simply get stuck and/or lost in there, period; that'll be even funnier, not really, you may be died in there if you get lost.

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舊 2011-04-05, 11:33 AM   #65
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He start the turn with a good position and look smooth but he is rotating too much so he turns so quickly across the falline and hard to make the new turns fast. If not because the snow is light and good , he'll have a big problem.
Ahh... you don't know that yourself "turn" too much? 我想我說過,當“你把別人對的技術看成錯的,你的對也是錯的‧不知又不會學,你的問題更大”‧ “對,你要“卡”,就“只能請您慢慢卡了””,所以 Norman 是“五十步”你“百步”? You haven't learned how to read "line"?

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You need to watch more carefully and encounter more snow condition before you comment. Go skiing more.
Probably wait until you can do it yourself before you give advices, then it may make some sense.

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舊 2011-04-05, 11:36 AM   #66
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It is high end because each turn ends with an over rotation to park and ride. Only Norman can appreciate it. There are a lot of back seat and banking going on. Same as Norman. I guess that is the kind of skiing they like and that is fine by me
You little knowledge knows how to use the words, nevertheless, due to lack of knowledge and experience, you don't know what you're talking about. Can you even do powder skiing? "fine by you"? who really care if you feel fine or not? Self-important little knowledge? Yup, little knowledge's mutated egotism.

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舊 2011-04-05, 11:36 AM   #67
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He start the turn with a good position and look smooth but he is rotating too much so he turns so quickly across the falline and hard to make the new turns fast. If not because the snow is light and good , he'll have a big problem.

You need to watch more carefully and encounter more snow condition before you comment. Go skiing more.
本來想說明多一點,後來想想算了。

我剪了一張照片,正如skier888兄做了同樣的事。

我可以憑下面這張照片,就說他的動作有問題,或是技術差勁嗎?(這段影片大家應該都看過了吧?)



太極兄所做的旋轉過頭/over rotation,是錯誤的動作嗎?其實我最近有跟一位朋友提過,不是由腹腰動作學習的體係,是很難理解差異在哪裏的,就如之前我提及,西洋搏擊對泰拳對中國武術,都是利用自身的技術來發揮不同的技術發展,如果不能欣賞各家優點,就正如我剪貼的這張照片是一樣的意思。所以定義由誰規範?即使是公認,誰又能肯定就是真理?即然不行,就不應拘泥這些問題,而應該注意看太極兄點扙併腿平行所走的路線,大家有嚐試做過相同的動作拍下來嗎?確定自己做得出來嗎?如果只用眼睛看,很多事實是光用眼睛看不出來的,而我做過這個動作,我自然能知道他在做什麼。

我這次在出發前幾天剛好頓悟出一個很強的基礎技術,這是由腹腰發力的方法,這也是我這次出門滑雪真正能再進步更多的原因,因為這個方法,我可練習的饅頭技術要在短時間大進步變成是可行的。

太過專注在雪況如何,對觀察對方的技術會產生盲點,太極兄拍的這段影片中,太陽太大,所以雪面看起來白白的,就是地面有凹凸面也很難看得出來的。所以我不對這做評論看法。
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舊 2011-04-05, 11:44 AM   #68
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Ahh... you don't know that yourself "turn" too much? 我想我說過,當“你把別人對的技術看成錯的,你的對也是錯的‧不知又不會學,你的問題更大”‧ “對,你要“卡”,就“只能請您慢慢卡了””,所以 Norman 是“五十步”你“百步”? You haven't learned how to read "line"?

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你就是講話這麼自大,就算可能是真的,誰要聽你的?

最近你們老愛拿我當例證,不太好吧?

這次出門拍片,我只證兩件事而已,1.證給PKU兄跟你,看我還是能有大進步。2.反駁SKIER888兄說我的石像滑法,讓他碴自己自大的腳。這樣這夠了。
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舊 2011-04-05, 11:59 AM   #69
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本來想說明多一點,後來想想算了。

我剪了一張照片,正如skier888兄做了同樣的事。

我可以憑下面這張照片,就說他的動作有問題,或是技術差勁嗎?(這段影片大家應該都看過了吧?)



太極兄所做的旋轉過頭/over rotation,是錯誤的動作嗎?其實我最近有跟一位朋友提過,不是由腹腰動作學習的體係,是很難理解差異在哪裏的,就如之前我提及,西洋搏擊對泰拳對中國武術,都是利用自身的技術來發揮不同的技術發展,如果不能欣賞各家優點,就正如我剪貼的這張照片是一樣的意思。所以定義由誰規範?即使是公認,誰又能肯定就是真理?即然不行,就不應拘泥這些問題,而應該注意看太極兄點扙併腿平行所走的路線,大家有嚐試做過相同的動作拍下來嗎?確定自己做得出來嗎?如果只用眼睛看,很多事實是光用眼睛看不出來的,而我做過這個動作,我自然能知道他在做什麼。

我這次在出發前幾天剛好頓悟出一個很強的基礎技術,這是由腹腰發力的方法,這也是我這次出門滑雪真正能再進步更多的原因,因為這個方法,我可練習的饅頭技術要在短時間大進步變成是可行的。

太過專注在雪況如何,對觀察對方的技術會產生盲點,太極兄拍的這段影片中,太陽太大,所以雪面看起來白白的,就是地面有凹凸面也很難看得出來的。所以我不對這做評論看法。
I would not say it is 錯誤的動作 but it is why he can't ski fall line. It will not look good if he skis fall line with the over rotation he has because he will be in constant recovery from the old turn.

I don't know who that picture is. What do you want to prove
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本來想說明多一點,後來想想算了。

我剪了一張照片,正如skier888兄做了同樣的事。

我可以憑下面這張照片,就說他的動作有問題,或是技術差勁嗎?(這段影片大家應該都看過了吧?)



太極兄所做的旋轉過頭/over rotation,是錯誤的動作嗎?其實我最近有跟一位朋友提過,不是由腹腰動作學習的體係,是很難理解差異在哪裏的,就如之前我提及,西洋搏擊對泰拳對中國武術,都是利用自身的技術來發揮不同的技術發展,如果不能欣賞各家優點,就正如我剪貼的這張照片是一樣的意思。所以定義由誰規範?即使是公認,誰又能肯定就是真理?即然不行,就不應拘泥這些問題,而應該注意看太極兄點扙併腿平行所走的路線,大家有嚐試做過相同的動作拍下來嗎?確定自己做得出來嗎?如果只用眼睛看,很多事實是光用眼睛看不出來的,而我做過這個動作,我自然能知道他在做什麼。

我這次在出發前幾天剛好頓悟出一個很強的基礎技術,這是由腹腰發力的方法,這也是我這次出門滑雪真正能再進步更多的原因,因為這個方法,我可練習的饅頭技術要在短時間大進步變成是可行的。

太過專注在雪況如何,對觀察對方的技術會產生盲點,太極兄拍的這段影片中,太陽太大,所以雪面看起來白白的,就是地面有凹凸面也很難看得出來的。所以我不對這做評論看法。
You are missing the point It is one thing to feel your own skiing is great but it is another when you have to put down others to do it
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舊 2011-04-05, 12:09 PM   #71
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本來想說明多一點,後來想想算了。

我剪了一張照片,正如skier888兄做了同樣的事。

我可以憑下面這張照片,就說他的動作有問題,或是技術差勁嗎?(這段影片大家應該都看過了吧?)



太極兄所做的旋轉過頭/over rotation,是錯誤的動作嗎?其實我最近有跟一位朋友提過,不是由腹腰動作學習的體係,是很難理解差異在哪裏的,就如之前我提及,西洋搏擊對泰拳對中國武術,都是利用自身的技術來發揮不同的技術發展,如果不能欣賞各家優點,就正如我剪貼的這張照片是一樣的意思。所以定義由誰規範?即使是公認,誰又能肯定就是真理?即然不行,就不應拘泥這些問題,而應該注意看太極兄點扙併腿平行所走的路線,大家有嚐試做過相同的動作拍下來嗎?確定自己做得出來嗎?如果只用眼睛看,很多事實是光用眼睛看不出來的,而我做過這個動作,我自然能知道他在做什麼。

我這次在出發前幾天剛好頓悟出一個很強的基礎技術,這是由腹腰發力的方法,這也是我這次出門滑雪真正能再進步更多的原因,因為這個方法,我可練習的饅頭技術要在短時間大進步變成是可行的。

太過專注在雪況如何,對觀察對方的技術會產生盲點,太極兄拍的這段影片中,太陽太大,所以雪面看起來白白的,就是地面有凹凸面也很難看得出來的。所以我不對這做評論看法。
As a said , there is no absolute right and wrong in skier, the bad consequence of over rotating brings balance to the up hill side which may not be a problem on a gentle pitch but will be a big problem on the steep. You can see taichiskiing is always doing park and ride and his upper body always swing fore and after. I would like to hear your opinion why taichiskiing can't ski the same way as what he did on the groomed to what he skied on the steep. Since we skied a lot and watch other people ski a lot , so we know what and why he ski like this.

You start to boast your skiing again, The main reasosn of your improvement is your rollerblading and the good snow condition.

Try to show your ski improvement before you think you can improve.

Taichiskiing shows us so many video, we all know how good his technique are.

For your photo, I think that is the video of Martin Gugganig, he got one turn hit by a bump since he skis so fast on the bump field the second try. The first try he skied rounder turns and control speed well and he skied shorter turns and didn't cross the fall line much and got hit on the second try.

That's you like to judge people's skiing by their mistakes. We'll judge people's skiing more realistic since we know how difficult the sport is

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I would not say it is 錯誤的動作 but it is why he can't ski fall line. It will not look good if he skis fall line with the over rotation he has because he will be in constant recovery from the old turn.

I don't know who that picture is. What do you want to prove
He just want ot prove even top of the top skier made mistakes and this picture may be the only one turn he is off balance in less than 1/2 second on the 5 minutes video.

When we make some mistakes in our skiing, he'll step dowm us and if he make a few good turns but mostly bad turns, he'll boast how much he improve. Even some video all ugly skiing, he can still said how good he is.

Norman is Norman and Taichiskiing is Taichiskiing. They should be happy to be with each other if Beg didn't show up. Now Norman is trying to get back to be friend of Taichiskiing again.
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You have yet to qualify your powder, tree, and steep skiing, gapper.

YouTube - Flatboarding/Line-skiing: off-piste, Maggie's canyon, right traverse, Heavenly


Yes, I call that L4 performance, with or without XISA titles.

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Then what you call this kind of performance

YouTube - Whistler powder ski

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He just want ot prove even top of the top skier made mistakes and this picture may be the only one turn he is off balance in less than 1/2 second on the 5 minutes video.

When we make some mistakes in our skiing, he'll step dowm us and if he make a few good turns but mostly bad turns, he'll boast how much he improve. Even some video all ugly skiing, he can still said how good he is.

Norman is Norman and Taichiskiing is Taichiskiing. They should be happy to be with each other if Beg didn't show up. Now Norman is trying to get back to be friend of Taichiskiing again.
Norman & Taichiskiing 確是相依為命的好伴侶、它們的高級的滑雪技術也令人目瞪ロ
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Norman & Taichiskiing 確是相依為命的好伴侶、它們的高級的滑雪技術也令人目瞪ロ
你的收加幣600元的技術也很令人目瞪口
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As a said , there is no absolute right and wrong in skier, the bad consequence of over rotating brings balance to the up hill side which may not be a problem on a gentle pitch but will be a big problem on the steep. You can see taichiskiing is always doing park and ride and his upper body always swing fore and after. I would like to hear your opinion why taichiskiing can't ski the same way as what he did on the groomed to what he skied on the steep. Since we skied a lot and watch other people ski a lot , so we know what and why he ski like this.

You start to boast your skiing again, The main reasosn of your improvement is your rollerblading and the good snow condition.

Try to show your ski improvement before you think you can improve.

Taichiskiing shows us so many video, we all know how good his technique are.

For your photo, I think that is the video of Martin Gugganig, he got one turn hit by a bump since he skis so fast on the bump field the second try. The first try he skied rounder turns and control speed well and he skied shorter turns and didn't cross the fall line much and got hit on the second try.

That's you like to judge people's skiing by their mistakes. We'll judge people's skiing more realistic since we know how difficult the sport is
再一次?為何不是我說你的觀念再一次的僵化?我說的這個體悟,不需要用直排輪也能很簡單的體會,只是你們無法真正有效利用而已,因為你們的學習及教法是不會這麼教的,而我現在也不想講,免得未來又像之前看到的某段隱藏CSIA新影片一樣,等我改天另做我專用心法影片進去囉。

雪況如何,我的技術到哪裏,我心裏有數。

如下這一段,當時我正在專心嚐試我新完成的練習動作,所以我在毫無心理預期下撞上一個bump,當時我真的嚇一大跳,但我相信我只要能繼續完成我的新動作,我一定能平穩落地。

那我如果從以前到現在就只剪這一段影片給大家看,你認為我這段影片中的動作有什麼問題嗎?

YouTube - norman嚇一跳


太極兄的動作,我不想說明什麼,看得懂便看得懂,看不懂,就是打破腦也看不懂,這是跟學習系統有關,對你們來說,旋轉過頭/over rotation是有問題的,對使用腹腰的人來說,它是沒有問題的,因為要控制過頭還是幾乎不動,只是個人想不想要做而已,所以並不存在這個問題。我只能說太極做得太隨興,所以看起來就像對錯都混在一起,只是一般人不會分辨而已。

最後紅字,是你們的問題,不是我的問題。

Ps.順便再貼下面這一段給skier888兄看。

YouTube - Guggi web

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你的收加幣600元的技術也很令人目瞪口
早説了不是我收的、妳也真若至得令人目瞪口
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早説了不是我收的、妳也真若至得令人目瞪口
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對、肉麻的若至CRAZY NORMAN真的看到ー刻有點雪杖的動作。那請問它左手跟右手打架是什麼回事。
對、我點杖跟併腿的動作那麼差所以オ收$600、要不要PK ー下.$10,000等妳、有菜花的若至CRAZY NORMAN。
是你老是把600塊掛在嘴上的,朋友私下一起滑也要這樣收錢的話,還有沒有良心呀?
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是你老是把600塊掛在嘴上的,朋友私下一起滑也要這樣收錢的話,還有沒有良心呀?
是若至Crazy Norman老是把600塊掛在嘴上的、朋友私下一起滑我要付錢的。妳喜歡就把Crazyboy滅ロ還有沒有良心呀?
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再一次?為何不是我說你的觀念再一次的僵化?我說的這個體悟,不需要用直排輪也能很簡單的體會,只是你們無法真正有效利用而已,因為你們的學習及教法是不會這麼教的,而我現在也不想講,免得未來又像之前看到的某段隱藏CSIA新影片一樣,等我改天另做我專用心法影片進去囉。

雪況如何,我的技術到哪裏,我心裏有數。

如下這一段,當時我正在專心嚐試我新完成的練習動作,所以我在毫無心理預期下撞上一個bump,當時我真的嚇一大跳,但我相信我只要能繼續完成我的新動作,我一定能平穩落地。

那我如果從以前到現在就只剪這一段影片給大家看,你認為我這段影片中的動作有什麼問題嗎?

YouTube - norman嚇一跳

太極兄的動作,我不想說明什麼,看得懂便看得懂,看不懂,就是打破腦也看不懂,這是跟學習系統有關,對你們來說,旋轉過頭/over rotation是有問題的,對使用腹腰的人來說,它是沒有問題的,因為要控制過頭還是幾乎不動,只是個人想不想要做而已,所以並不存在這個問題。我只能說太極做得太隨興,所以看起來就像對錯都混在一起,只是一般人不會分辨而已。

最後紅字,是你們的問題,不是我的問題。

Ps.順便再貼下面這一段給skier888兄看。

YouTube - Guggi web
Your problem is that you are extending your leg when you hit the bum and you are also afraid of air. You vidoe can't compare with the other. Your weakness will be exposed even more with increase speed and steepness. That is what happen to TaichiSkiing
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