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舊 2012-08-31, 11:50 PM   #41
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比我好是正常的。

但你拿Brend Greber來比較,我相信他應該會蠻鬱悶的,因為那時的技術跟現在的技術又有差別了,早在許久之前paul已對我說過,可觀賞,但如果他能活到今天,滑法也將會有所改變。

現今的饅頭滑法也比較接近下面這段影片。

APSI Demo Team........ keep it tight - YouTube


至於Richard Berger跟丸山貴雄的滑法跟Blake是一樣的,只是日本的專人攝影技術拍得較漂亮而已,他們講了很多更多的壓邊是沒錯,但教一個入門的要學的人直接走直線,對很多人來講是不現實的,所以不如不講,這中間還是有一個過程的,所以讓你產生錯覺了。

丸山貴雄のスキースタイルevolution - YouTube

Śmig avalement na (w :-) ) muldach - Richard Berger - YouTube


饅頭及不整地最大的重點還是在收縮吸收上,如果無法收縮吸收,就算你練再多的壓邊方法,進步還是有限的。

對了,你覺得下面這個與Richard Berger是同一個人嗎?

Richi Berger, Bumps.MPG - YouTube
你一知半解便不要扮大師,丸山貴雄,Richard Berger 都是高山滑雪技術的理念,要有performance ,尤其是在技術選,像freestyle 在饅頭那種滑法,是那不到高分。如在freestyle moguls 比賽用他們那種滑法,也一樣拿不到高分,因壓邊技術產生的回彈力加上令平行復習,吸收很難做到完美而容易彈飛,速度也不夠freestyle 的直線快,

滑雪教練聯盟,都是以技術選那樣的準則,所以用freestyle mogul滑法是不會過関,而freestyle 滑雪也不是高山滑雪比賽的種類。

一個不是比賽或考教練牌的滑雪者,所謂free skier ,可以到處滑又滑得快便是好。

像Richard Berger 丸山貴雄,是有深厚的高山滑雪訓練,才轉到那種技術比賽,才有這麼高水準。像加拿大因沒有這樣大形的技術比賽,可吸引滑雪人作這樣的訓練,水準便差了

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舊 2012-09-01, 01:22 AM   #42
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From PKU: Technical skiing Competition is a big event in Japan and usually
held at Hakuba, the Olympic site I don't know how much is the price but top skiers from
Canadan entered the competiotion before. The top guys in the competition will get invited
to film video and of course they can earn money from there too.


I'm a little skeptical about how much they make, especially from videos. I know it might be
different than America, but it would have to be a LOT different for it to be worthwhile. As I
said before, there aren't many opportunities for money in America for skiers unless your a
acrobat or stuntman. Even people who go to the olympics from here usually make zero. I
know because I have known guys who have gone (like Chuck Martin). Some olympic gold
medalists gain enough popularity to make money (like Lindsay Vonn), but that's it.

From PKU: I bought few video and they become my idols. The cost for skiing
is there is around $200.00/day include hotel, breakfast and dinner in the hotel and lift
tickets. Beef is expensive in Japan but Sushi is reasonable. I usually spent US$130.00per
person per day in Tokyo ( include hotel, eating an transportation ) and $200.00 in the ski
resort ( include hotel ski pass and eating )


That's kind of a lot. Where we're going in Nicaragua you can live like a king for 20 dollars a
day LOL : )
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舊 2012-09-01, 02:07 PM   #43
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Quote From PKU: I bought few video and they become my idols.

I think I can understand your point of view better based on this statement... you have a
favorite style, and there is nothing wrong with that at all.

I was thinking about it today... when I ski in my style I have such high standards that it is
impossible to ski perfectly, basically no matter what, in my mind. I suppose it's entirely
possible that another person could have just as high of standards in the technical/japanese
style so that perfect skiing would also be impossible according to their standards in that
style. From that point of view, either style is more than difficult enough.

I really like how Japanese skiers (and also european skiers) pay a lot of attention to turning
skill in skiing. In America the only thing anyone seems to care about anymore are big aerials.
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舊 2012-09-01, 03:50 PM   #44
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這班澳洲仔滑得好好,既然你提及亞Paul ,不如你拿Blake Richard Berger 丸山貴雄的片請他品評一下
片那位 Ricci. 吾係好似,個人認為
想了許久,我覺得這樣問很奇怪吧?也不知人家會不會理我,因為這問題蠻怪的,因為技術到這程度,已經不是誰最好的問題了,就像兩個能做一樣的技術,一起比賽時,一個比另一個快一秒,這樣就能算是快一秒的技術比較好?有時幸運及身體狀況及偏愛的滑雪感覺也是會影響成績的,所以這樣比較是蠻怪的。

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你一知半解便不要扮大師,丸山貴雄,Richard Berger 都是高山滑雪技術的理念,要有performance ,尤其是在技術選,像freestyle 在饅頭那種滑法,是那不到高分。如在freestyle moguls 比賽用他們那種滑法,也一樣拿不到高分,因壓邊技術產生的回彈力加上令平行復習,吸收很難做到完美而容易彈飛,速度也不夠freestyle 的直線快,

滑雪教練聯盟,都是以技術選那樣的準則,所以用freestyle mogul滑法是不會過関,而freestyle 滑雪也不是高山滑雪比賽的種類。

一個不是比賽或考教練牌的滑雪者,所謂free skier ,可以到處滑又滑得快便是好。

像Richard Berger 丸山貴雄,是有深厚的高山滑雪訓練,才轉到那種技術比賽,才有這麼高水準。像加拿大因沒有這樣大形的技術比賽,可吸引滑雪人作這樣的訓練,水準便差了
還好有耐下性子看了幾遍,冷靜一下頭腦,剛才總算看懂你的意思了。

你把技術分成兩個,一個是你說的turning Performance技術,一個是收縮Absorb for mogul的技術。

其實到最後,這兩者的技術是可以合拼的,如果依你現在還在重心轉換時用「站起」或「跳起」,那你就很難體會我說的。如果你會在重心轉換時,把雙腳同時「拉起來」,那你就會發現你看得懂Richard Berger跟丸山貴雄的動作了,但我還是得說Blake的動作Performance比較高,真的比較難。

「因壓邊技術產生的回彈力」,我已說過了,回彈力是假的,那只是一種感覺上的錯覺,真實的是在轉彎結束再多一點向山上的方向滑一點點,就會變成你說的回彈動作了,但你不會把雙腳「拉起來」,你就會被這彈起失控,因為我真的試過了,而會雙腳「拉起來」,那就不需要多彎那一點點的彎了,只會讓速度降下來而已。

說點題外話,今天早上我帶兒子去溜直排輪,我也把跳板帶去給他玩,他一兩個月沒溜直排輪了,所以又生疏很多了,且雙腳還是有些開開成八字慢慢溜,轉彎動作又忘了什麼做比較省力,但他把我平常偶爾教他的練習拉腳動作應用在跳板練習時,溜十幾分鐘後,他能完全做到上跳板把雙腳拉起來了(改天有機會再練熟一點就拍給你們看),而他的併腿平行轉彎的能力就很明顯有大改善了,雙腳有比較併一些,內側腳也開始站比較直了。

我說這些主要還是說有兩個重點,姿勢歸零及收縮拉腳的重要性,會讓你的滑雪動作更具Performance且有力量。

最後我不得不講一下,下面這種下饅頭的技術真的比較簡單,會這一種不一定能直線下饅頭下得好,而真的會直線下饅頭下得很好,這種方法也一定會。這是我目前用跳板抓一下感覺所得的結論了,如果不算準,那就等我有機會到雪場,我就拍這兩種下饅頭的動作,到時我再講同樣的話,就應該算準了吧?除非我都拍不出來。

丸山貴雄のスキースタイル3 transform - YouTube

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舊 2012-09-01, 11:08 PM   #45
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Quote From PKU: I bought few video and they become my idols.

I think I can understand your point of view better based on this statement... you have a
favorite style, and there is nothing wrong with that at all.

I was thinking about it today... when I ski in my style I have such high standards that it is
impossible to ski perfectly, basically no matter what, in my mind. I suppose it's entirely
possible that another person could have just as high of standards in the technical/japanese
style so that perfect skiing would also be impossible according to their standards in that
style. From that point of view, either style is more than difficult enough.

I really like how Japanese skiers (and also european skiers) pay a lot of attention to turning
skill in skiing. In America the only thing anyone seems to care about anymore are big aerials.
I absolutely agree with you.

Although I personally like the technical style,your big mountain skiing is also amazing to watch.

Are you using moguls skis or regular shape skis on moguls.

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舊 2012-09-02, 12:19 AM   #46
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From PKU: Technical skiing Competition is a big event in Japan and usually
held at Hakuba, the Olympic site I don't know how much is the price but top skiers from
Canadan entered the competiotion before. The top guys in the competition will get invited
to film video and of course they can earn money from there too.


I'm a little skeptical about how much they make, especially from videos. I know it might be
different than America, but it would have to be a LOT different for it to be worthwhile. As I
said before, there aren't many opportunities for money in America for skiers unless your a
acrobat or stuntman. Even people who go to the olympics from here usually make zero. I
know because I have known guys who have gone (like Chuck Martin). Some olympic gold
medalists gain enough popularity to make money (like Lindsay Vonn), but that's it.

From PKU: I bought few video and they become my idols. The cost for skiing
is there is around $200.00/day include hotel, breakfast and dinner in the hotel and lift
tickets. Beef is expensive in Japan but Sushi is reasonable. I usually spent US$130.00per
person per day in Tokyo ( include hotel, eating an transportation ) and $200.00 in the ski
resort ( include hotel ski pass and eating )


That's kind of a lot. Where we're going in Nicaragua you can live like a king for 20 dollars a
day LOL : )
They should make a bit more than the demo team member in Canada. The top technical guys will be the demo team member of Japan. At least they can make money from selling their video while nobody will buy skiing video from the demo team member in Canada.

I think it's also expensive skiing in Colorado.
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舊 2012-09-02, 02:21 AM   #47
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還好有耐下性子看了幾遍,冷靜一下頭腦,剛才總算看懂你的意思了。

你把技術分成兩個,一個是你說的turning Performance技術,一個是收縮Absorb for mogul的技術。

其實到最後,這兩者的技術是可以合拼的,如果依你現在還在重心轉換時用「站起」或「跳起」,那你就很難體會我說的。如果你會在重心轉換時,把雙腳同時「拉起來」,那你就會發現你看得懂Richard Berger跟丸山貴雄的動作了,但我還是得說Blake的動作Performance比較高,真的比較難。

「因壓邊技術產生的回彈力」,我已說過了,回彈力是假的,那只是一種感覺上的錯覺,真實的是在轉彎結束再多一點向山上的方向滑一點點,就會變成你說的回彈動作了,但你不會把雙腳「拉起來」,你就會被這彈起失控,因為我真的試過了,而會雙腳「拉起來」,那就不需要多彎那一點點的彎了,只會讓速度降下來而已。

我說這些主要還是說有兩個重點,姿勢歸零及收縮拉腳的重要性,會讓你的滑雪動作更具Performance且有力量。

最後我不得不講一下,下面這種下饅頭的技術真的比較簡單,會這一種不一定能直線下饅頭下得好,而真的會直線下饅頭下得很好,這種方法也一定會。這是我目前用跳板抓一下感覺所得的結論了,如果不算準,那就等我有機會到雪場,我就拍這兩種下饅頭的動作,到時我再講同樣的話,就應該算準了吧?除非我都拍不出來。

丸山貴雄のスキースタイル3 transform - YouTube
你識小小,便扮代表,你跟本不知高山滑雪技術的performance 是什麼,又在亂講,

前幾天打電話跟我的一位L4 朋友 (韓國人在whistler 教了十年)講滑饅頭技術,談及freestyle 直線饅頭技術,與及雪板的関係,跟他談是因他也受個直缐饅頭的訓練。他說直線饅頭是快,而用饅頭雪板回彈力小,比較容易控制。但以高山滑雪技術來講,便欠缺performance .

問他我一位前同事ken,一個曾是加拿大饅頭少年國家隊,幾年前考到L4 ,在whistler 教了滑雪十五年,他的直線饅頭不會比Blake 差,問韓國朋友亞Ken 能不能像Richard berger滑饅頭,他說當然不能。

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From PKU: Are you using moguls skis or regular shape skis on moguls.

I'm using moguls skis. With such differently shaped skis nowadays I figure it makes sense
to switch between skis in the same way that people switch golf clubs between different
shots.

From PKU: I think it's also expensive skiing in Colorado.

It is, but with so many competing resorts there is a huge difference between the price of a
day ticket and the price of a season pass. Most resorts have day tickets for 80-100 dollars
a day, but some of those same resorts have season passes available for under 400. We
usually get a winter park pass for 400 or so and an arapahoe basin pass for 360 or so. The
prices fluctuate at different times of the year.
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Quote from PKU: Don't you think it's harder to ski rounder turn on the
moguls with more edging ( engage the edge earlier ) .


Quote from PKU: I think you misunderstand my question or I didn't
make it clear enough.

I am asking about the way of skiing, not the line of one chooses. As you said, some
of the guys in the video still ski the zipper line. The main difference between you
and them is they are always trying to be on edges and you are always on flat skis.
They are skiing on arcs but you are more of a straight lines

The way those guys ski on the video is consider the technical way and they current
and former demonstrators ( members in their country's demo team to attend the
Interski events) of Japan and Austria.
I don't think I misunderstood your question, but I guess I made my answer more
complicated than it had to be. I was talking about things related to your question,
even if it wasn't a direct answer (the shape of your turns relate to your line).
Anyway, sorry about that, let me try it again...

It is NOT more difficult to make rounder turns with more edging in the moguls. I
can ski with both styles in the moguls, so I am answering with experience. I have
thought about making a video of like ten different mogul styles just to try to make
a point about this kind of thing, but I haven't made it yet because I think it'd be a
little silly to make an entire video of different styles just to prove a point for this
online argument (I have encountered this argument online many times before). The round
turns shown in the video that you posted are in my opinion how an intermediate
mogul skier would ski moguls. The PSIA (and other people) like to call this "technical
skiing" to make it sound cool, but really it's just because they can't ski any better
than that. That style is easier than skiing well in my style. If I switched to skiing
that style, skiing would become WAY easier for me. I would never have to put any
thought or effort into my skiing ever again.

On a related note though, for some skiers it might be eaiser to ski badly in my style
than to ski well in the "technical" style... Assuming a skier is working on skiing well
in both styles, my style is harder to ski well in. I know because I have experience
with both. The so called "technical" style is way easier. I ski with that style
sometimes when there are a lot of rocks in the moguls that I want to avoid or
something.
Guess you guys' arguments get lost in the terminology; I thought the "straight line"/zipperline skiing down the moguls is the "technical [mogul] skiing," as it is the fastest way to ski down a mogul hill/slope.

Round-turn/"rounded turns" is a cheating technique, where it uses elongated ski paths to substitute the inadequate absorptions, thus less tiring, when comparing to the "strictly" absorbing technique of zipperline technique; as it requires less precise [body] movements and timing and longer path to maneuver around a mogul, it is easier but slower way/technique to ski moguls; People like to watch the exciting and straight-forward of zipperline mogul skiing.

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TaiChiSkiing, I really enjoy your videos. My wife and I
do standing meditation (qigong postures) pretty much daily. By the way, I broke my
pelvis too once 16 years ago. It was no fun.
Thanks for the reply, and thanks for "enjoy" my videos. Glad that you're into the meditation too; TaichiQuan is said to be a "moving meditation," so is Taichi Skiing. Technically, I do "line-skiing," and the "line" I've followed usually reflects the "rhythms," "tempos," and "strengths," etc. of gravity, Taichi Skiing is "pushing hands"/"pushing feet" with oldman gravity.

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On the other thread, there was a question about "how to" pull up your feet (involving
muscle groups etc)... I think it is good to not over-analyze in skiing. You just have to
know what a movement should look like and try to do it without thinking about it. I
think that that way usually gets better results than analyzing movements in depth.
It's like what they say in Star Wars: "Don't think... Feel".
You're sounded like in the knows; "push feet," Taichi Skiing skis the gravity by feeling, is the ultimate way of skiing. By "feeling the gravity," you turn skiing as "external" sport into an "internal" meditation. The "lines" you follow shows the "balance" of yourself, whom you know—Yang—and the gravity, which you don't really know—Yin—in "the balanced Yin and Yang," you are Taichi Skiing, doesn't matter what "style" you are in, and this guy doesn't even know Taichi,

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I have described that motion of body movement in "zipperline" mogul skiing as "move like a caterpillar," where the feet move in unison but independently, and the body "bend"—Yin—and "extend"—Yang—like a caterpillar, and that's the most efficient way to move the "whole" body, imo.

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I also have not missed the questions about how close Norman is to skiing like me, or
how long it should take him or whatever... I don't want to get dragged into an
argument (which is why I didn't answer these questions).... I like Norman : ) ....
Well, the argument here with Norman is that he is hiding behind your words by twisting them into his favors to brag about his skills and knowledge, so only you can straighten up his misconception of your words; if his argument is not an act, he is a fool. I was saying one needs to use his/her front thigh muscles to "pull up your feet," and he said that one doesn't need to use the thigh muscles [but only abdomen muscles] to do that; he'll never admit that he has lost the arguments.

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But I will say this:It took me 28 years of skiing to get me to the level I am at in skiing.
If someone else can do it faster, that is great. I can't say how long it would take
someone else. Everyone is different. If anyone wants to try to ski like me with less
practice than me, I say let them try. I think that having access to different types of
terrain would be really important though. I moved to a different state 13 years ago
so that I could ski better terrain.
No arguments there. The problems/arguments here in the forum, or among the skiing forums, are between two groups: academic, those who trained with a skiing system, as mostly ski instructors kind (PKU, and beg, to name a few), and non-academic, those who ski by experiencing, or "doing it," self-taught (ex., you and me), and in my books, skiing is a "doing" thing, who can say but cannot do only has a "book" knowledge, like XSIA certifications, once into "doing" part, "I believe it when I see it." Norman has said that he can ski like you in about 8 days practice, (have no idea where I got that number, correct me if I'm wrong, Norman); my argument was he didn't know what he was talking about. Your "It took me 28 years of skiing to get me to the level I am at in skiing" comment provides plenty testimony against him already. He is living too small a "skiing world."

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A few years ago I heard about a ski resort that was being built in Western China called
PingTian. What ever happened with that? Did it ever open? I heard it was supposed
to be really cool.
Have no idea; I've figured that in Chinese population distribution (very heavy on the eastern coasts,) a "Western China" ski resort would not probably "blossom" that well/easily.

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Here are answers to a couple other questions that were asked...

My mogul style is pretty tiring. I like putting in the extra effort, but I am usually
really out of breath after 20 or 30 turns or something. There are other styles that
are a lot less tiring. The "technical style" discussed above is less tiring. Absorbing
less deep or bouncing accross the tops of moguls like some of the world cup skiers
often do would also be a lot less tiring.

I usually view jumping onto a mogul as a failure of absorption. I pretty much never jump
onto one, but when I do, it would be for some crazy mogul that's as tall as my stomach is
high or something.
Yes, you have an excellent mogul skiing style, clean, efficient, and dynamic, that's why so exciting to watch, but yes, it's also why it is so tiring too. I "line-skiing" the "equal gradient line" through the moguls, which I've called "surfing the gravity waves," so I don't usually hit the crests or the troughs, I think that probably the least tiring way to ski down the moguls, ski the path of the least resistant path.

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: mogul - YouTube



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你識小小,便扮代表,你跟本不知高山滑雪技術的performance 是什麼,又在亂講,

前幾天打電話跟我的一位L4 朋友 (韓國人在whistler 教了十年)講滑饅頭技術,談及freestyle 直線饅頭技術,與及雪板的関係,跟他談是因他也受個直缐饅頭的訓練。他說直線饅頭是快,而用饅頭雪板回彈力小,比較容易控制。但以高山滑雪技術來講,便欠缺performance .

問他我一位前同事ken,一個曾是加拿大饅頭少年國家隊,幾年前考到L4 ,在whistler 教了滑雪十五年,他的直線饅頭不會比Blake 差,問韓國朋友亞Ken 能不能像Richard berger滑饅頭,他說當然不能。
performance可以翻成「性能」,或是直說成「較且高更快的轉彎效率的效能」嗎?

你在捨末逐末追求更多的壓邊角度以期許得到更多的「回彈」?我說的是兩者合一的方式,所以你並不了解我在說什麼。

話說回來,平常為何要這樣滑? 壓邊角度夠用就好了,雪道上有插一堆旗門讓你需要這樣滑嗎?

我倒是想到一個問題,那位亞ken先生是滑得跟Blake一樣好,還是可能只是接近?不如改問他是否滑得跟Blake一樣好,再來問能不能像Richard berger滑饅頭,這樣也許你會得到不同的說法吧。

我也說過了,同樣的直線饅頭的滑法不只一種方法,有的用收拉腳,有的用蹲下,有的在碰到饅頭開始向時做了一些淺跳的動作...等,別忘了,我講的是真實的可以憑空把雙腳拉上來的方式,所以你說亞Ken先生能滑直線饅頭,如果有影片方便的話,我就好奇看看跟Blake的方法一不一樣,因為細微的差異不同方法也會造成不同的結果,這你應該同意我這個看法吧?
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performance可以翻成「性能」,或是直說成「較且高更快的轉彎效率的效能」嗎?

你在捨末逐末追求更多的壓邊角度以期許得到更多的「回彈」?我說的是兩者合一的方式,所以你並不了解我在說什麼。
話說回來,平常為何要這樣滑? 壓邊角度夠用就好了,雪道上有插一堆旗門讓你需要這樣滑嗎?

我倒是想到一個問題,那位亞ken先生是滑得跟Blake一樣好,還是可能只是接近?不如改問他是否滑得跟Blake一樣好,再來問能不能像Richard berger滑饅頭,這樣也許你會得到不同的說法吧。

我也說過了,同樣的直線饅頭的滑法不只一種方法,有的用收拉腳,有的用蹲下,有的在碰到饅頭開始向時做了一些淺跳的動作...等,別忘了,我講的是真實的可以憑空把雙腳拉上來的方式,所以你說亞Ken先生能滑直線饅頭,如果有影片方便的話,我就好奇看看跟Blake的方法一不一樣,因為細微的差異不同方法也會造成不同的結果,這你應該同意我這個看法吧?
滑雪的performance 這個字,不能只用字面解,你要接觸多這個運動,看人家什麼時間用,早壓邊,早加壓,適當地將壓加到很多,這樣便很多performance

不在饅頭時這樣滑,雖然一路轉彎,但速度仍是很快,
在饅頭這樣滑,難度高很多,做到的人很少,像Richard Berger 那樣滑,加拿大可能連一也沒有,正如Blake 講,比美都喜歡big mountain skiing 同 extreme skiing. 這樣的高技術滑沒太多人去訓練,現在加拿大的demo team要輪 選多次,水準比前高,但還
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滑雪的performance 這個字,不能只用字面解,你要接觸多這個運動,看人家什麼時間用,早壓邊,早加壓,適當地將壓加到很多,這樣便很多performance
按物理學的定義,應該是施最少的力,達到最高速度,就是 performance。譬如小馬力的汽車速度如果跟大馬力的汽車一樣快,performance 就較好。

丸山貴雄的影片常常騰空跳起來,物體質量如果上下震動,就會減損速度,可以說丸山貴雄的 performance 沒有 richard berger 好。
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按物理學的定義,應該是施最少的力,達到最高速度,就是 performance。譬如小馬力的汽車速度如果跟大馬力的汽車一樣快,performance 就較好。

丸山貴雄的影片常常騰空跳起來,物體質量如果上下震動,就會減損速度,可以說丸山貴雄的 performance 沒有 richard berger 好。
我喜歡Richard Berger 多個丸山貴雄,Richard berger 滑得柔順些,但鬥起來丸山貴雄,年青力壯,應該丸山貴雄贏
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Hi guys,

I thought I would mention that I re-edited my 2012 video. That means that previous links to it will not work. I edited the first post of this thread with the new link
though. Here is the link to the new edit. I just lengthened some shots and replaced some shots...

2012 High Level Mogul Skiing and Steep Skiing - YouTube

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I'm not sure what I did here... I still have trouble with the chinese buttons on this forum sometimes lol. The new post is below.

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I wrote an article on one thing that we talked about on this thread (hacky sacking
and skiing) if anyone is interested. I go into a lot more explanation in the article.

I can't legally copy and paste it to any other forums apparently because epic owns the
rights to it, so the best I can do is post a link.

http://www.epicski.com/a/hacky-sacki...kiing-tomorrow

Or here it is as a thread:

http://www.epicski.com/t/113883/summ...ng-improvement

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I wrote an article on one thing that we talked about on this thread (hacky sacking
and skiing) if anyone is interested. I go into a lot more explanation in the article.

I can't legally copy and paste it to any other forums apparently because epic owns the
rights to it, so the best I can do is post a link.

http://www.epicski.com/a/hacky-sacki...kiing-tomorrow

Or here it is as a thread:

http://www.epicski.com/t/113883/summ...ng-improvement
Thanks your nice share.
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