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舊 2010-12-30, 10:19 AM   #1
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continue from http://www.goski.com.tw/forum/showth...=9430#post9430

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The pratice is tipping inside ski first but the result is edges changed at the same time mechanically. I think this pratice is to active more inside leg because inside leg is lazier (or it is harder to turn when it is inside)
I can only agree with you partially.
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舊 2010-12-30, 12:16 PM   #2
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Beg, you might have another conclusion if you review the video again, especially at 3:46.
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舊 2010-12-30, 01:14 PM   #3
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Beg, you might have another conclusion if you review the video again, especially at 3:46.
YouTube - Harald Harb, Ski Practice 9, Expert Short Turns and Carving, "flexing into the turn"


I see what you mean. The idea might be do it wrong to make it right. (It's just my guessing) It's some terms quite confusing.

Tipping=edging?
Legs following the ski- Is it possible legs not following the ski? How?
Flexing into ankles=angulation?

I saw extension when he say no extension.

set pressure to the edge-How do you set pressure? Use upper body or lower body? When it is lower body, that means extension.
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舊 2010-12-30, 01:55 PM   #4
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Beg, as mentioned by pku, different schools have different terminologies. So, there is no need to do the matching. For example, I quoted the CSIA definition of steering in my previous post. The definition is similar to a rule in the Bible that I have never criticized.

This is your statement - "The pratice is tipping inside ski first but the result is edges changed at the same time mechanically" - is it right?

My previous post only wants to highlight whether - the result is edges changed at the same time?
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舊 2010-12-30, 02:15 PM   #5
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Beg, as mentioned by pku, different schools have different terminologies. So, there is no need to do the matching. For example, I quoted the CSIA definition of steering in my previous post. The definition is similar to a rule in the Bible that I have never criticized.

This is your statement - "The pratice is tipping inside ski first but the result is edges changed at the same time mechanically" - is it right?

My previous post only wants to highlight whether - the result is edges changed at the same time?
Well, I am thinking what will happen if one flat foot and one edge foot on snow. Can they go parellel?Even just a blink.
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舊 2010-12-30, 02:31 PM   #6
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Beg, I love your question and learning attitude. As mentioned in my first thread - "I love to ski but don't know how to ski". Perhaps, that is my motivation to get more information about PMTS's technique.
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舊 2010-12-30, 02:53 PM   #7
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Beg, I love your question and learning attitude. As mentioned in my first thread - "I love to ski but don't know how to ski". Perhaps, that is my motivation to get more information about PMTS's technique.
You love to ski then you should know how to ski.
You don't know how to ski because you don't love to ski.

I know which one you are.
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舊 2010-12-30, 03:08 PM   #8
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Really, you know me? Please don't take off my shell...hehe. You may send PM/email to me so that I have a chance to know who are you.
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舊 2010-12-30, 03:14 PM   #9
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There are simple explanations for most questions you have. HH has been at it for a long time. One does not need to learn his whole system to benefit. You can take what you think can help you and learn from it. Many people take a glimpse of his ideas and use some of it to improve. There are more than one well known ski books that are based on part of his ideas and publicly acknowledge it. Even the xSIA text quoted on this web site share technique he first promoted. Again, I am not an instructor, have no certificate of any kind and do not belong to any ski association.
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舊 2010-12-30, 03:39 PM   #10
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Really, you know me? Please don't take off my shell...hehe. You may send PM/email to me so that I have a chance to know who are you.
I know who you are already.
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舊 2010-12-30, 03:45 PM   #11
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Really, you know me? Please don't take off my shell...hehe. You may send PM/email to me so that I have a chance to know who are you.
You have to give him free private lessons in exchange for his silence.
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舊 2010-12-30, 04:13 PM   #12
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You have to give him free private lessons in exchange for his silence.
You just confirm who he is.
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舊 2010-12-31, 10:58 AM   #13
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You have to give him free private lessons in exchange for his silence.
He skis better than me a lot so he should give me some free private lessons :-)
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舊 2010-12-31, 11:04 AM   #14
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You love to ski then you should know how to ski.
Just for sharing :-) When I was young, my father told me that "不學以為滿足, 越學越知不足".
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舊 2010-12-31, 11:42 AM   #15
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Hi there, I seldom join any technical debate in this forum (or others) because I think that every teaching system has its own advantages. For PSIA, we have our own system, called ATS (American Teaching System). Learning from PSIA's approach, I am still happy to learn other approaches. That's why I don't critizie other approaches. I might only point out which vedio clips have better (or bad) skiing because of what ....
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舊 2010-12-31, 02:00 PM   #16
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I would like to share something from someone I don't know that I came across from mitbbs:
http://www.mitbbs.com/share/fav_show...lybuzz&pagen=5
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