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pku 2014-03-19 05:05 AM

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snowrider 2014-03-19 05:42 AM

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taichiskiing 2014-03-19 10:18 PM

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Bigger the terms, lesser the meanings, can you describe why and how they are “高手絕技”in your "own" words?

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IS

pku 2014-03-20 12:01 AM

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[quote=taichiskiing;26426]Bigger the terms, lesser the meanings, can you describe why and how they are “高手絕技”in your "own"

Turn fast when needed, speed is fast ,well balance , 節奏好,沒有頓點,

你自己說自己快,但我們看一點不快,要 turn 又不能 turn 而要停戓橫滑,經常 balance 在 uphill ski ,身體搖擺不定,沒節奏,頓點多,不過你用自己作高手的標準,所以你一定是高手

taichiskiing 2014-03-20 09:52 AM

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Bigger the terms, lesser the meanings, can you describe why and how they are “高手絕技”in your "own"

Turn fast when needed, speed is fast ,well balance , 節奏好,沒有頓點,

Well, in a sense, those are good qualities of skiing. However, "turn fast" and "speed" don't complement each other, as in driving, you have to "slow" down to turn, so you'll lose some speed during a turn, so short turns can never be a speed skill, which is the essence of "Turn Skiing," as well as CSIA teaching. And "pole-plant" itself is a "頓點." Taichi Skiing has no fixed rhythm/節奏 so that eliminates the "頓點" as well.



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你自己說自己快,但我們看一點不快,要 turn 又不能 turn 而要停戓橫滑,經常 balance 在 uphill ski ,身體搖擺不定,沒節奏,頓點多,不過你用自己作高手的標準,所以你一定是高手
We have been this round before, and I have already complainted that your critics lack of integrity, so your words lack of creditability. Wanna try again?

““橫滑”不是問題,“上身極其不隱”“停頓”卻是你“眼拙”,要不要指出來我是在什麼地方“停頓”的,或是“上身極其不隱”?”



我的標準是根據物理的,滑能符合物理的標準的人,不只是我,都是高手。

:)
IS

pku 2014-03-20 01:54 PM

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Well, in a sense, those are good qualities of skiing. However, "turn fast" and "speed" don't complement each other, as in driving, you have to "slow" down to turn, so you'll lose some speed during a turn, so short turns can never be a speed skill, which is the essence of "Turn Skiing," as well as CSIA teaching. And "pole-plant" itself is a "頓點." Taichi Skiing has no fixed rhythm/節奏 so that eliminates the "頓點" as well.

Taichi Skiing: a Taichi Skier's profile - YouTube




We have been this round before, and I have already complainted that your critics lack of integrity, so your words lack of creditability. Wanna try again?

““橫滑”不是問題,“上身極其不隱”“停頓”卻是你“眼拙”,要不要指出來我是在什麼地方“停頓”的,或是“上身極其不隱”?”

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: mogul - YouTube


我的標準是根據物理的,滑能符合物理的標準的人,不只是我,都是高手。

:)
IS

點pole 有頓點, 太極滑雪冇頓點,那麼太極滑饅頭,應可比 Blake 快, Blake 是會點pole

未見個世界級的滑雪人不用poles ,太極滑雪不用poles ,只因你根本不懂用,免麻煩,不用算吧

就講速度,用高手標準, Snowrider 跟你滑過,也跟我滑過,如果在 groom run ,他跟我差不了太多,我在 bump 比他快小許,但我跟 CSIA 的高手滑,不論在groom 或 bumps ,連他的背影也見不到.

每個人滑雪都是地心吸力帶動,都乎合物理

你上身極其不穩及頓點,便要弱慢貼圖

taichiskiing 2014-03-21 12:02 AM

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點pole 有頓點, 太極滑雪冇頓點,那麼太極滑饅頭,應可比 Blake 快, Blake 是會點pole

高手能配合點杖的頓點,速度是不會被影響很大的‧用杖,多了一個裝備,滑的時候省很多腳力,當然有優勢,but to "pure form of skiing," I call that "cheating," snowboarding has achieve the same thing without using pole. High end no pole skiing is much more knowledgeable and technical than you think.



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未見個世界級的滑雪人不用poles ,太極滑雪不用poles ,只因你根本不懂用,免麻煩,不用算吧
I think the Olympic ski slope style brown medalist skis without pole, and there are more and more no-pole skiers on the ski slopes now. Your pole-planted skiing is lagging behind the new trend/improvement. And saying that I don't know how to use pole is only you gappers/弱慢族 shameless denial.



And can you do mogul without pole? That requires a highly acute “balancing skill.”



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就講速度,用高手標準, Snowrider 跟你滑過,也跟我滑過,如果在 groom run ,他跟我差不了太多,我在 bump 比他快小許,但我跟 CSIA 的高手滑,不論在groom 或 bumps ,連他的背影也見不到.
你要跟我滑off-piste,結果大概也差不多‧



Are you not “話自己滑得快”?

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每個人滑雪都是地心吸力帶動,都乎合物理
Nonsense. If that's your CSIA's teaching, your L2 instruction is “白當了”。

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你上身極其不穩及頓點,便要弱慢貼圖
No need for norman to help you, video clip has always been provided (see above mogul clip), you cannot answer my question, because you can't, you lie through your teeth on you critics.

"You critics lack of integrity, and your words have no creditability."

:)
IS

pku 2014-03-21 04:01 AM

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作者: taichiskiing (文章 26440)
高手能配合點杖的頓點,速度是不會被影響很大的‧用杖,多了一個裝備,滑的時候省很多腳力,當然有優勢,but to "pure form of skiing," I call that "cheating," snowboarding has achieve the same thing without using pole. High end no pole skiing is much more knowledgeable and technical than you think.

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: Short Spoke gully, Kirkwood - YouTube




I think the Olympic ski slope style brown medalist skis without pole, and there are more and more no-pole skiers on the ski slopes now. Your pole-planted skiing is lagging behind the new trend/improvement. And saying that I don't know how to use pole is only you gappers/弱慢族 shameless denial.

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: tree skiing, Canyon Express trees, Heavenly - YouTube


And can you do mogul without pole? That requires a highly acute “balancing skill.”

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: mogul - YouTube




你要跟我滑off-piste,結果大概也差不多‧

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: tree skiing, Skyways, Heavenly - YouTube


Are you not “話自己滑得快”?



Nonsense. If that's your CSIA's teaching, your L2 instruction is “白當了”。



No need for norman to help you, video clip has always been provided (see above mogul clip), you cannot answer my question, because you can't, you lie through your teeth on you critics.

"You critics lack of integrity, and your words have no creditability."

:)
IS


你自己視而不見,自圓其說,現在連 snowboarder 都用pole,

taichiskiing 2014-03-21 06:49 AM

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你自己視而不見,自圓其說,現在連 snowboarder 都用pole,

That has nothing to do with your "CSIA Skiing Skill" or “高手絕技”, so you didn't answer my rebuttals again. And the statement “現在連 snowboarder 都用pole,” also wrong. My filming class instructor snowboarding with poles, because he has bad knees, nevertheless, see how he uses his poles, not while he is riding.



The fact is that a sound snowboarder would never use poles to ride, as much as the same reason I don't use poles to ski, pole-plant/pole-touch or whatever breaks the rhythm of the body "flow" and the "flow" of the gliding skis/boards, which is reflected on your hands a jerk, and not to mention that they are cumbersome to carry, and improper use may cause injures...

No, snowboarding with poles is not a “高手絕技”. What else?

:)
IS

pku 2014-03-21 10:54 AM

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That has nothing to do with your "CSIA Skiing Skill" or “高手絕技”, so you didn't answer my rebuttals again. And the statement “現在連 snowboarder 都用pole,” also wrong. My filming class instructor snowboarding with poles, because he has bad knees, nevertheless, see how he uses his poles, not while he is riding.

Rider profile: Old boarders never die, they just ride into the sunset - YouTube


The fact is that a sound snowboarder would never use poles to ride, as much as the same reason I don't use poles to ski, pole-plant/pole-touch or whatever breaks the rhythm of the body "flow" and the "flow" of the gliding skis/boards, which is reflected on your hands a jerk, and not to mention that they are cumbersome to carry, and improper use may cause injures...

No, snowboarding with poles is not a “高手絕技”. What else?

:)
IS

所以說你 out. Snowboarder 用pole 來裝 gopro. 自拍,我有說snowboarder 用 pole 來滑

Skis Poles 用處多多,只有你那麼笨才不用

norman 2014-03-21 10:59 AM

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所以說你 out. Snowboarder 用pole 來裝 gopro. 自拍,我有說snowboarder 用 pole 來滑

Skis Poles 用處多多,只有你那麼笨才不用

真幽默。:face (334):

taichiskiing 2014-03-21 12:14 PM

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所以說你 out. Snowboarder 用pole 來裝 gopro. 自拍,我有說snowboarder 用 pole 來滑

Skis Poles 用處多多,只有你那麼笨才不用

These actions also have nothing to do with your "CSIA Skiing Skill" or “高手絕技”, or you are so desperate that just say anything trying to get yourself out of this stinky hole you dug? Do you know empty hands can do a lot more things than holding poles and doing nothing? Go to see ski patrollers in actions. 笨是“不學不長”。

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IS

pku 2014-03-21 12:29 PM

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These actions also have nothing to do with your "CSIA Skiing Skill" or “高手絕技”, or you are so desperate that just say anything trying to get yourself out of this stinky hole you dug? Do you know empty hands can do a lot more things than holding poles and doing nothing? Go to see ski patrollers in actions. 笨是“不學不長”。

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IS

明明越來越多人用poles ,你都可說越來越多人沒用 poles ,老人家頑固不化。

CSIA 講 functional use of all joints ,你的joints 基本上這麼多年都沒用來滑雪,站得高高直直,,什麼是pressure control. 看來你也不懂:face (50):

skier888 2014-03-21 02:28 PM

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所以說你 out. Snowboarder 用pole 來裝 gopro. 自拍,我有說snowboarder 用 pole 來滑

Skis Poles 用處多多,只有你那麼笨才不用

:face (50)::face (50)::face (50):

另外 Snowboarder 滑BC時一定帶 pole

taichiskiing 2014-03-21 11:06 PM

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明明越來越多人用poles ,你都可說越來越多人沒用 poles ,老人家頑固不化。

What are you bubbling about? What's “明明越來越多人用poles”? who's the “人”, skiers or boarders? or you just make some noises and think that you have said something? Or you think that using a pole to mount a gopro is your CSIA's teaching the proper way on how to use poles? You are losing it.

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CSIA 講 functional use of all joints ,你的joints 基本上這麼多年都沒用來滑雪,站得高高直直,,什麼是pressure control. 看來你也不懂:face (50):
That's what you said, the question is how, "bigger the terms, lesser the meaning." We human have roughly 206 bones, so are the joints, each one of them "open" and "close" would affect the "pressure" internally and reflected outward externally, how do you CSIA coordinate them? No, you CSIA's crouch down position locked up at least half of the body joints, so it is you who don't understand the "pressure control." Upright stance is not just more elegant but also more maneuverable.



Are you trying to replace norman to weave you 弱慢族的“包腳布”?

:)
IS

pku 2014-03-22 12:02 AM

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What are you bubbling about? What's “明明越來越多人用poles”? who's the “人”, skiers or boarders? or you just make some noises and think that you have said something? Or you think that using a pole to mount a gopro is your CSIA's teaching the proper way on how to use poles? You are losing it.



That's what you said, the question is how, "bigger the terms, lesser the meaning." We human have roughly 206 bones, so are the joints, each one of them "open" and "close" would affect the "pressure" internally and reflected outward externally, how do you CSIA coordinate them? No, you CSIA's crouch down position locked up at least half of the body joints, so it is you who don't understand the "pressure control." Upright stance is not just more elegant but also more maneuverable.

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: spins - YouTube


Are you trying to replace norman to weave you 弱慢族的“包腳布”?

:)
IS

講不過人又出這招,你站得直直,下身關節完全不動,當遇上凹凸不平如饅頭地形,便冇法控制壓力,也冇法有效地增加或減少壓邊。
CSIA 的高手那會只站低,他們的腳伸長縮短,動感非常,你只能手舞上身亂動,自稱動感。

CSIA 會員過萬,人人用 poles ,你們不用pole 的有多人

全世間的滑雪教學協會,教到中級開始,只有教初級時才叫他們不要用 poles, 也都教用poles,你自己不懂用,又不想學,才自創不用雪杖滑雪

taichiskiing 2014-03-22 12:51 AM

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講不過人又出這招,你站得直直,下身關節完全不動,當遇上凹凸不平如饅頭地形,便冇法控制壓力,也冇法有效地增加或減少壓邊。
CSIA 的高手那會只站低,他們的腳伸長縮短,動感非常,你只能手舞上身亂動,自稱動感。



And you are using "Austria" clip to "demonstrate" you CSIA techniques, are you sure that you are a CSIA guy? Or you just don't know what you're talking about? That is VERY pathetic for a CSIA L2 instructor.

No, I don't have to "bump" the bumps to ski moguls, I do "long radius turns" on moguls, and what you call “動感,” in Taichi Skiing we call it "拙力太多."

Taichi Skiing, even on moguls, remains "elegant" and "functional."



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CSIA 會員過萬,人人用 poles ,你們不用pole 的有多人

全世間的滑雪教學協會,教到中級開始,只有教初級時才叫他們不要用 poles, 也都教用poles,你自己不懂用,又不想學,才自創不用雪杖滑雪
No, maybe it is you CSIA "lag behind the curve/trend"? With modern short, shaped skis, poles are not needed to turn. You may hold on your outdated skills for your dear life, but no-pole skiing is higher skills than poled skiing. Want to see no-pole skiing in action? Go and hangout in and around terrain parks, you'll see plenty actions there.

:)
IS

B2L2 2014-03-22 03:37 AM

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If your "upright stance is more maneuverable", could you show us how to handle "short radius turns" on moguls? Please, since we never saw that.

If you're a real 高手 like you claimed, you should able to ski other system's form with ease, agree? Please show us, since again we never saw that.

Quote: "我的標準是根據物理的,滑能符合物理的標準的人,不只是我,都是高手。"

Could you name one thing in Norman's skiing that doesn't satisfy physics law? LOL I didn't see Norman could teleport between space. Everything in this world follow physics laws, therefore everyone 都是高手.

pku 2014-03-22 10:27 AM

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Demonstration Skiing Video - Steering Versatility.mp4 - YouTube


And you are using "Austria" clip to "demonstrate" you CSIA techniques, are you sure that you are a CSIA guy? Or you just don't know what you're talking about? That is VERY pathetic for a CSIA L2 instructor.

No, I don't have to "bump" the bumps to ski moguls, I do "long radius turns" on moguls, and what you call “動感,” in Taichi Skiing we call it "拙力太多."

Taichi Skiing, even on moguls, remains "elegant" and "functional."

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: mogul - YouTube




No, maybe it is you CSIA "lag behind the curve/trend"? With modern short, shaped skis, poles are not needed to turn. You may hold on your outdated skills for your dear life, but no-pole skiing is higher skills than poled skiing. Want to see no-pole skiing in action? Go and hangout in and around terrain parks, you'll see plenty actions there.

:)
IS

What a stubborn old man. You shouldn't drop your conclusion before getting some research. A guy having a clip on Austria ski hill cannot be a CSIA instructor. You need to use your brain more. Don't just dream how good you are all the time. This guy is a CSIA L4, CSIA L3 Examiner. His base is on Mount Washington at Vancouver Island, B.C. Canada.

That is VERY pathetic for a guy claiming he's a ski expert but we all know it's normal because you are just a stubborn old man skiing everyday without improvement:face (340):

I know you can do short turns without poles on Trail, super green slope. Norman can do carve turns on the slope. Just like you, on super green slope.

The chairlift I often take on Whistler pass 2 terrain park and I don't really see skiers no using poles there

taichiskiing 2014-03-22 11:11 AM

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Bring out the heavy gun, eh? Cool, it should be interesting.

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If your "upright stance is more maneuverable", could you show us how to handle "short radius turns" on moguls? Please, since we never saw that.

Well, I think this board already get tired of watching my mogul clips, or too pissed dare to watch, if you have not seen my "short radius turns on moguls," maybe your video analysis skills need to be improved? As you deny them, maybe you can "demonstrate" your "short radius turns on moguls," so we learn/know how they look like?

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If you're a real 高手 like you claimed, you should able to ski other system's form with ease, agree? Please show us, since again we never saw that.
Of course you didn't see that, I didn't and don't do "other styles." The challenge of the skiing is the mountains, not the individual style, and follow the "forms" to learn skiing is futile, so, cannot agree with your "agree?" question. The right question should be "Can I ski the hills/mountains that other systems teach to ski"? Of course I can, and some.



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Quote: "我的標準是根據物理的,滑能符合物理的標準的人,不只是我,都是高手。"

Could you name one thing in Norman's skiing that doesn't satisfy physics law? LOL I didn't see Norman could teleport between space. Everything in this world follow physics laws, therefore everyone 都是高手.
That is nonsense, again, as you trivialized the term, "everything is everything" is meaningless/“說了白說.” Alpine skiing, as a sport, has an "efficiency" element involved. Yes, everything that is out of balance, and out of energy falls; nevertheless, so-called "高手" can tweak those physical laws so they don't run out of "balance and energy" so that the skiing continues; that is the result of "efficiency," among other factors. So, no, not everyone can be a "高手."

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IS


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