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舊 2015-02-17, 04:53 AM   #321
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I see the root cause of this is that you are a “boring person, boring mind,” you cannot appreciate the elegance of the “quiter the body, higher the performance.”“Stop your tunnel vision.”
Told you that you would never see the root cause. Already said there is a deeper meaning and you just shamelessly deny. The shame should be on you instead.

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I have been “more difficult and more interesting” places than you could imagine; that's to say, “been there, done that, and you are behind my time.”Taichi Skiing is a “moving meditation,”and I am now more interesting in balancing the “centripetal force” and “centrifugal force”and enjoy the grace of gravity, “the art of skiing,” and speed only a by-product.
Using your logic, without the ability to generate the by-product of "speed", your skill in harder runs has been proven to be lacking. You go enjoy your slow and skil-less tree runs but you're far from being an expert like your call yourself. Keep slapping your own face but you still far from a fat.

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Snowplowing is a low class/poor, if not accident prone, technique for skiing powder and trees, and they are there only because the terrain is easy.
Good said to explain your speed on easy, flat runs. It is because the runs are "easy".

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Sorry, I don't do gappers' challenge, boring. Meanwhile, enjoy the wild wild west of internet skiing, movements? Who needs to move?
Challenge?? No, it just prove that you aren't capable to do what I said. You have no video to prove in all your previous years of skiing. Now you're getting older and skiing is getting worse, you just wouldn't able to do it, period.

Yes, go enjoy your "internet skiing". That's the prefect term to describe your skiing.

And we all know your shameless deny will be the coming answer to this. You're so predictable. Later.
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舊 2015-02-17, 10:08 AM   #322
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You have described yourself well, you shameless CSIA L2.

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IS
這點你應該要改進了,如果你只是說他的CSIA證照,那無可厚非。

但如果說他的實力的話,那就言不符實了,他現在的動作至少已有L4的入門水準,教L3以下是絕對沒問題的。

所以就別講證照的級數了,更何況你不是不重視證照嗎?要是這樣的話,我連L1都沒有,豈不是比L1更差,要是照這邏輯,你的證照可能只有L1,最多L2,不可能拿到L3,那你就更要認清事實了。

如果不是,那講這L2反擊就很奇怪了。
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舊 2015-02-18, 08:04 AM   #323
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你在各論壇作出無恥下流的發言幾十年,眾所街知,
“下流人的嗚咽,下流人的回言,下流人”。”

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IS
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舊 2015-02-18, 08:23 AM   #324
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Told you that you would never see the root cause. Already said there is a deeper meaning and you just shamelessly deny. The shame should be on you instead.
You're only half right, but you don't see my deeper meaning is deeper than yours; that is to say, my deeper meaning “covers” what you think as deeper meaning, so the “shameless denials” are you Whistler group, so “The shame should be on you [Whistler group] instead.”

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Using your logic, without the ability to generate the by-product of "speed", your skill in harder runs has been proven to be lacking. You go enjoy your slow and skil-less tree runs but you're far from being an expert like your call yourself. Keep slapping your own face but you still far from a fat.
Accordingly, I don't think that you even know what “by-product” means, and “slow and skil-less tree runs” are you Whistler group “Keep slapping your own face but you still far from a fat”“perpetuated denial.” You gappers cannot even do the tree runs, let alone to keep up with us.

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: tree skiing, Skyways, Heavenly - YouTube



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Good said to explain your speed on easy, flat runs. It is because the runs are "easy".
Of course, a master does thing always looks “easy.”

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Challenge?? No, it just prove that you aren't capable to do what I said. You have no video to prove in all your previous years of skiing. Now you're getting older and skiing is getting worse, you just wouldn't able to do it, period.
The challenge to you is to prove that you are “capable to do what you said yourself.”I don't do your system, I don't have to know/do what you said, and my system is already over your head.

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: free skiing - YouTube



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Yes, go enjoy your "internet skiing". That's the prefect term to describe your skiing.
Of course; you're almost right, except that you don't have an answer; the “perfect term” is called “perfect turn.”

Whitecrane Heavenly skiing: Ridgerun and Maggie's - YouTube



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And we all know your shameless deny will be the coming answer to this. You're so predictable. Later.
I call that is your “shameless deny” in advance. Your “hit and run” tactic doesn't work on me. “You're so predictable,” you'll be back.

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IS

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舊 2015-02-18, 10:13 AM   #325
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You're only half right, but you don't see my deeper meaning is deeper than yours; that is to say, my deeper meaning “covers” what you think as deeper meaning, so the “shameless denials” are you Whistler group, so “The shame should be on you [Whistler group] instead.”
So what actually is your deeper meaning when I said the root cause is some boring people posting boring video? LOL.

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Accordingly, I don't think that you even know what “by-product” means, and “slow and skil-less tree runs” are you Whistler group “Keep slapping your own face but you still far from a fat”“perpetuated denial.” You gappers cannot even do the tree runs, let alone to keep up with us.
You're the person saying speed is a by-product of good skill. I agree with your logic. So when you incapable to generate speed in harder runs, it simply means you don't have the proper skill. That's your logic slapping your face. Which part I don't understand?? LOL

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Of course, a master does thing always looks “easy.”
Maybe a bit more specific to call yourself a master for easy runs.

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The challenge to you is to prove that you are “capable to do what you said yourself.”I don't do your system, I don't have to know/do what you said, and my system is already over your head.
I'm capable to do what I said? What do you mean? You mean going down the runs in the Whistler video that you aren't capable to do? What does that mean to you after? No matter what, you will be denying anyway.

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Of course; you're almost right, except that you don't have an answer; the “perfect term” is called “perfect turn.”

I call that is your “shameless deny” in advance. Your “hit and run” tactic doesn't work on me. “You're so predictable,” you'll be back.
What's "hit and run"? I am just calling out your logic is wrong but you deny.

I maybe back or I may be not. LOL
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舊 2015-02-18, 11:02 PM   #326
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“下流人的嗚咽,下流人的回言,下流人”。”

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IS
你看看 Snowrider, Norman 對我的評價,便知我滑雪實力有多少,而你在各滑雪論壇都臭名遠播,便好應該反省一下。誰是那個無恥下流人。

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Of course, a master does thing always looks “easy.”

Why a trial is called a easy run because everyone can ski it with ease. 只有無恥下流人才會經常拿他自己滑trail 的片來當自己是 master

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舊 2015-02-18, 11:44 PM   #327
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So what actually is your deeper meaning when I said the root cause is some boring people posting boring video? LOL.
My deeper meaning is that you are “boring person, boring mind,” with a “boring mind” you could only see/do “boring” things. Since there's nothing exciting about in your encounter things, which makes you a “boring person.” Yes, LOL.

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You're the person saying speed is a by-product of good skill. I agree with your logic. So when you incapable to generate speed in harder runs, it simply means you don't have the proper skill. That's your logic slapping your face. Which part I don't understand?? LOL
If “speed” is a “by-product,” then you “don't” do anything to “generate speed,”and that's “where you don't understand.”Under the gravity and air resistance, in skiing, anything you do “extra” generates more frictions and air resistance, which rob your energy, which makes you slower down, so you've achieved to an opposite effect, and “That's your logic slapping your face.” LOL

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Maybe a bit more specific to call yourself a master for easy runs.
You need to get your “tunnel vision” fixed.

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I'm capable to do what I said? What do you mean? You mean going down the runs in the Whistler video that you aren't capable to do? What does that mean to you after? No matter what, you will be denying anyway.
Yes, I was saying that you are not capable to do what CSIA L4 demos, so you are plagiarizing. Yup, “No matter what, you will be denying anyway.”

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What's "hit and run"? I am just calling out your logic is wrong but you deny.

I maybe back or I may be not. LOL
Yup, that's your “hit and run.” Don't let the door hit you when you sneak out of the door.

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IS
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舊 2015-02-19, 05:29 AM   #328
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My deeper meaning is that you are “boring person, boring mind,” with a “boring mind” you could only see/do “boring” things. Since there's nothing exciting about in your encounter things, which makes you a “boring person.” Yes, LOL.
Are you running out of words these days or just like to copy-n-paste? :)

So your so-call "deeper" meaning is equal to your "original" meaning. LOL. Your comment of your "deeper" meaning is "deeper" than mine is just funny. Regardless, whether a movie is boring or not is not what the director said.

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If “speed” is a “by-product,” then you “don't” do anything to “generate speed,”and that's “where you don't understand.”Under the gravity and air resistance, in skiing, anything you do “extra” generates more frictions and air resistance, which rob your energy, which makes you slower down, so you've achieved to an opposite effect, and “That's your logic slapping your face.” LOL
So if skiing down a tough run "slowly" is what you want and proud of, then said it.

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You need to get your “tunnel vision” fixed.
You have to show me scientifically what my tunnel vision didn't see. Maybe you will then realize that you're the one with tunnel vision.

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Yes, I was saying that you are not capable to do what CSIA L4 demos, so you are plagiarizing. Yup, “No matter what, you will be denying anyway.”
Like other said, you're getting old and loss your memory. Did I post any CSIA L4 demo video? Did I claim I am a CSIA L4? Why all a sudden I have to show CSIA L4 demo?


I posted one and only one video recently. The "some bump, some trees" video taken from Whistler. I basically made one comment saying that you are incapable to come down that run any faster. You couldn't provide any prove that you could do so and therefore I claim my statement is correct. For me, I consider any CSIA L4 could make the same run in fast and control manner. As a conclusion, I consider any CSIA L4 is better than your skiing in this particular run. (so which part in this statement requires me to ski like a CSIA L4?)

You posted video doing mogul competition and you never show any video going down a mogul run straight on the fall line. You are plagiarizing like you said.

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Yup, that's your “hit and run.” Don't let the door hit you when you sneak out of the door.
Let me repeat. Using fact to discussion one thing usually make it clear. The only thing that make a discussion become muddy (like every single thread here) is only because you're denying what's being wrong.
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舊 2015-02-19, 05:42 AM   #329
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你看看 Snowrider, Norman 對我的評價,便知我滑雪實力有多少,而你在各滑雪論壇都臭名遠播,便好應該反省一下。誰是那個無恥下流人。
我不是也說過你是“饅頭高手”?是你自己不敢接,現在又要吹自己有多少實力?小知小技‧事實上要不是你在那拼命的要表現你滑饅頭的技術高我還不會發現你只會滑那一種地形,你的“實力”突然在我的面前消失了,也証實了我的想法—“你不會滑別的地形”‧“臭名遠播”? Yah, given that only me one vs. WWW, I call that a huge badge of honor.

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Of course, a master does thing always looks “easy.”

Why a trial is called a easy run because everyone can ski it with ease. 只有無恥下流人才會經常拿他自己滑trail 的片來當自己是 master
那是你小知小技“無恥下流人”的爭辯,結果把你們CSIA L4都罵了,無知的好笑,是你“應該反省一下,誰是那個無恥下流人”。

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IS
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舊 2015-02-19, 10:32 AM   #330
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Are you running out of words these days or just like to copy-n-paste? :)
What, you mean “boring person boring mind”? no, that was not a copy-n-paste, but you actual state of mind. And your “boring” posting continues.

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So your so-call "deeper" meaning is equal to your "original" meaning. LOL. Your comment of your "deeper" meaning is "deeper" than mine is just funny. Regardless, whether a movie is boring or not is not what the director said.
Another thing, you don't know why and how a system is bigger than or contains another system. Have you heard about the story about the “best painting”in an art show got hanged upside down? No, not because you say a movie is boring then the movie is boring!

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So if skiing down a tough run "slowly" is what you want and proud of, then said it.
Yes and no, nowadays my “battle cry” to my proxy (those who ski with me) is “Slow Down.” The best way to ski spring snow trail is to slow down and stay on the “burns,” And you may not ski as “smooth” as her.

Whitecrane Heavenly skiing: Olympicdownhill, ttb - YouTube



(I know you gappers don't really watch my videos, but I'll leave it here, just for the record and to keep the writing complete.)

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You have to show me scientifically what my tunnel vision didn't see. Maybe you will then realize that you're the one with tunnel vision.
Not sure if you have the back ground knowledge to comprehend what I say, but ok, I'll try. Given a curved ski track, the relationship between the “angular acceleration” (a) (you do know what that is, don't you?), velocity (V), and the radius of the curved path (R) is given as R= V*V/a, and that is to say, mathematically, the longer the turn radius the faster the speed. The faster speed gives higher Kinetic Energy, which is given as KE=1/2* m*V*V, and the higher the KE gives higher performance. So, by observing the tracks that the skier left behind, we can estimate the energy the skier carried. When all else are equal, the straighter ski tracks carry higher energy than curvier one.

Barrowed from norman's photos,







Flatboard carving shows straighter line above than the pure-carving track below, “line-skiing” carries higher energy than “turn skiing.” And you don't know these relationship and cannot see that, your “tunnel vision” is proven.




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Like other said, you're getting old and loss your memory. Did I post any CSIA L4 demo video? Did I claim I am a CSIA L4? Why all a sudden I have to show CSIA L4 demo?
I think that those CSIA L4's demos are posted by your Whistler group, and you came out batting for them, you are “guity by asscociation.”

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I posted one and only one video recently. The "some bump, some trees" video taken from Whistler. I basically made one comment saying that you are incapable to come down that run any faster. You couldn't provide any prove that you could do so and therefore I claim my statement is correct. For me, I consider any CSIA L4 could make the same run in fast and control manner. As a conclusion, I consider any CSIA L4 is better than your skiing in this particular run. (so which part in this statement requires me to ski like a CSIA L4?)
Actually, I did provide proof, you just denied it, and no, I don't think you know how to read the video, you may not even watch it.

Shadow skiing Nevada Woods, Heavenly - YouTube



SomeTrees and SomeBumps - YouTube




(You ski like a CSIA L4 is required when you compare me with a CSIA L4, otherwise, you have no standing to even making a comparision.)

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You posted video doing mogul competition and you never show any video going down a mogul run straight on the fall line. You are plagiarizing like you said.
Nonsense, I never claimed that I'm going to ski “a mogul run straight on the fall line,“直線饅頭” is what norman claimed. You are plagiarizing yourself.

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Let me repeat. Using fact to discussion one thing usually make it clear. The only thing that make a discussion become muddy (like every single thread here) is only because you're denying what's being wrong.
Actually, claiming I “denying being wrong” is you “弱慢族” standard denial, by “twisting the facts.” You haven't proved anything I said was“wrong,” and I do, even on this post, have proved plenty that you and you “弱慢族”said and did were wrong. So the conclusion is, for “every single thread here” last that long only because you “弱慢族” perpetuated denials, blah, blah, blah, and on going...

And the saga continues.

:)
IS
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Not sure if you have the back ground knowledge to comprehend what I say, but ok, I'll try. Given a curved ski track, the relationship between the “angular acceleration” (a) (you do know what that is, don't you?), velocity (V), and the radius of the curved path (R) is given as R= V*V/a, and that is to say, mathematically, the longer the turn radius the faster the speed. The faster speed gives higher Kinetic Energy, which is given as KE=1/2* m*V*V, and the higher the KE gives higher performance. So, by observing the tracks that the skier left behind, we can estimate the energy the skier carried. When all else are equal, the straighter ski tracks carry higher energy than curvier one.

Barrowed from norman's photos,







Flatboard carving shows straighter line above than the pure-carving track below, “line-skiing” carries higher energy than “turn skiing.” And you don't know these relationship and cannot see that, your “tunnel vision” is proven.






:)
IS
無恥偽太極實致名歸,你講這理論是很合理。但是你在什麼地點能做到這樣,和你是能這樣做多久
第一,這樣的滑缐你只能在平坦的 trail run 才做得出來,但一定不能維持多久, skidding 便會出現。否則也不會用那麼長的時間來完成那條雪道

而你一到陡一點的坡便要橫滑, side slip, 還要左閃右避,怎快,那有什麼 energy , energy lost 就有你份。

第二,雪的阻力而言,你的滑缐比刻滑缐粗,而且用 radius 長的 GS skis 也可以做出 radius 長的刻線,這樣便比你的line skiing 快

第三,當速度快時,空氣阻力便會大大影響速度,你身體站得高而雙手打開,極度阻風,完全不合 aero dynamic , 一點也不附合物理。

什麼合數學,合物理,簡直是笑話。
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(You ski like a CSIA L4 is required when you compare me with a CSIA L4, otherwise, you have no standing to even making a comparision.)


:)
IS
CSIA4 也不能算是高手,我們post 出來那些是滑得最好那一班,我們才叫高手,你自稱是高手,也不是拿你來跟他們比,只是用他們來當示範。用你來跟他們比較,你不佩
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What, you mean “boring person boring mind”? no, that was not a copy-n-paste, but you actual state of mind. And your “boring” posting continues.



Another thing, you don't know why and how a system is bigger than or contains another system. Have you heard about the story about the “best painting”in an art show got hanged upside down? No, not because you say a movie is boring then the movie is boring!



Yes and no, nowadays my “battle cry” to my proxy (those who ski with me) is “Slow Down.” The best way to ski spring snow trail is to slow down and stay on the “burns,” And you may not ski as “smooth” as her.

Whitecrane Heavenly skiing: Olympicdownhill, ttb - YouTube


(I know you gappers don't really watch my videos, but I'll leave it here, just for the record and to keep the writing complete.)



Not sure if you have the back ground knowledge to comprehend what I say, but ok, I'll try. Given a curved ski track, the relationship between the “angular acceleration” (a) (you do know what that is, don't you?), velocity (V), and the radius of the curved path (R) is given as R= V*V/a, and that is to say, mathematically, the longer the turn radius the faster the speed. The faster speed gives higher Kinetic Energy, which is given as KE=1/2* m*V*V, and the higher the KE gives higher performance. So, by observing the tracks that the skier left behind, we can estimate the energy the skier carried. When all else are equal, the straighter ski tracks carry higher energy than curvier one.

Barrowed from norman's photos,







Flatboard carving shows straighter line above than the pure-carving track below, “line-skiing” carries higher energy than “turn skiing.” And you don't know these relationship and cannot see that, your “tunnel vision” is proven.






I think that those CSIA L4's demos are posted by your Whistler group, and you came out batting for them, you are “guity by asscociation.”



Actually, I did provide proof, you just denied it, and no, I don't think you know how to read the video, you may not even watch it.

Shadow skiing Nevada Woods, Heavenly - YouTube


SomeTrees and SomeBumps - YouTube


(You ski like a CSIA L4 is required when you compare me with a CSIA L4, otherwise, you have no standing to even making a comparision.)



Nonsense, I never claimed that I'm going to ski “a mogul run straight on the fall line,“直線饅頭” is what norman claimed. You are plagiarizing yourself.



Actually, claiming I “denying being wrong” is you “弱慢族” standard denial, by “twisting the facts.” You haven't proved anything I said was“wrong,” and I do, even on this post, have proved plenty that you and you “弱慢族”said and did were wrong. So the conclusion is, for “every single thread here” last that long only because you “弱慢族” perpetuated denials, blah, blah, blah, and on going...

And the saga continues.

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其實你一直把問題的方向搞錯了。

刻線乾不乾淨,跟離心力=向心力=地心引力,只有這三個幾乎完全平衡一樣時,可以立於平衡在鋼邊線上,這樣才會有乾淨的刻線出來。

你的刻線是離心力>向心力,所以刻線時刻往外壓移,這代表你的平衡上的壓力無法落實於鋼邊線上,你的壓力會幅散到板底上,使用的面積大,所以你的刻線會糊糊的也是這個原因。

刻線乾淨其實代表自己的壓力控制能力有多高。

就好比一個人站在鋼繩上,另一個人站在有兩掌寛平面的平衡木上,哪個人的技術比較高?這答案是很明顯的,能站在鋼繩上的人改站在平衡木上,一定是更輕鬆動作更快。

影片的表現也是這樣,真正在滑時,當然不會像影片那樣一板一眼的做,平常滑時是不會像影片那樣,動作跟選線一定是更自由更隨意的,所以在速度上的表現是比影片上更快更隨興,但影片表現的控制力就是一種程度高低的清楚表現。

而刻線的弧度越圓,代表除了使用鋼邊弧度半徑外,會由被動變主動,長扁半弧線只是單純用到鋼邊,胖深弧線則需要用到主動切轉的力量,所以除了有刻線外,胖深弧線是更高的細微控制力,當然技術性更高。

再上去就是速度,速度越快越難保持刻線乾淨,但是還是一樣有跡可循,但也不會是那種模糊不清的那種。

所以這也是為何示範片會以胖深C弧線為主,因為這代表控制力有一定的高級水準。

而引影片只是一種說明好的刻線或怎樣的動作可以表現其技術性,所以想證明自己能做到或更好,不是只有平常隨便滑的樣子,而是做出跟高手示範片中的動作然後再來做自己的動作證明。

為何要做出像示範片中的動作,這是因為我們對動作不是真正的了解,絕大多數都是從字面上或是口述方法去了解,但每個人的理解跟自己的動作是有很大的關係的,唯有做出越接近示範的動作,對同一句話的理解才會越正確,不然就只是站在門外猜了。

當我們認為討論或談到高深的動作,或是努力討論出高深的動作,很現實的是,如果自己做不出來,那再如何講自己的動作如何高深,那都是沒有用的,因為那是自以為是的高深,而不是大家認知的高深。除非自己的標準只是能平安滑下山即可,那這個高深的範圍可就大多,因為只要多滑,任何人都可以平安滑下山,這個高級控制技術就不需要了,所謂熟能生巧一樣適用,但這個生巧跟高深技術其實是無關的,因為錯誤的動作熟能生巧一樣能變得比較厲害,只是成長高度有限而已。

最後饅頭的類型還是有差別的,簡單的饅頭不需要什麼技術,只要轉彎熟練,自己想轉就轉就行了,但隨著饅頭的難度增加,到最後就不是想轉就轉就行了,而是動作的技術性不足,就算你心中想轉,明明你眼看到的位置可以轉,但實際碰上時,它就是不讓你如願的轉,除非你有正確的技術應付,不然只能很慢的一個個下了,順暢想轉就轉就是不可能的了。

所以如果有機會下直線饅頭,確實是相當檢驗技術正確性的,如果沒碰過,其實講了也是白講,因為跟本無法想想直線饅頭的難度到底是什麼,那是跟一般的饅頭是很不一樣的,因為它需要更快更正確的動作才能更輕鬆更快,如果你只是要挑容易簡單的路線,也是不錯,但這不需要高深的技術,需要的只是更多的滑雪經驗而己,失敗多了,自然就看得出哪條路線容易滑,只是偶爾碰到避不開時,就只有吃鱉的份而已。

所以我們討論是想把自己滑雪的技術拉高,而不是一個平常的經驗判斷,因為這是沒有標準的。技術低跟技術高在看同一段路線對難易度的看法絕對是不同的。而技術低但滑雪經驗多,不少地形看起來以前難,現在簡單。但對技術高的人來講,即使滑雪經驗不多,但對這位而言,簡單是簡單,難就是難,會有一定的標準,絕對不會滑兩三天覺得難,連滑一個月就變簡單的這種習慣感覺,所以這是完全不一樣的。
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無恥偽太極實致名歸,你講這理論是很合理。
即然我“講這理論是很合理”,那邏輯的結論就是你“無恥偽教練實致名歸”。

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但是你在什麼地點能做到這樣,和你是能這樣做多久
第一,這樣的滑缐你只能在平坦的 trail run 才做得出來,但一定不能維持多久, skidding 便會出現。否則也不會用那麼長的時間來完成那條雪道

而你一到陡一點的坡便要橫滑, side slip, 還要左閃右避,怎快,那有什麼 energy , energy lost 就有你份。
不是,是你“只能”看到我在trail run上滑還skidding,結果卻是你“管眼”的“瞽盲不視”還“自騙自”‧要不要指出我什麼時候“skidding”?

Tai Chi Ski at Heavenly Lake Tahoe Feb 2012 by Shen - YouTube



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第二,雪的阻力而言,你的滑缐比刻滑缐粗,而且用 radius 長的 GS skis 也可以做出 radius 長的刻線,這樣便比你的line skiing 快
Ahh... no, “用 radius 長的 GS skis 也可以做出 radius 長的刻線”已經是“line skiing”,而這個“line skiing”,“with all else are equal,”一定比同一個人的“turn skiing”快‧ “Line skiing” is a higher skill.

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第三,當速度快時,空氣阻力便會大大影響速度,你身體站得高而雙手打開,極度阻風,完全不合 aero dynamic , 一點也不附合物理。
不會,就是我“身體站得高而雙手打開”也不會比你帶兩根雪杖還前後移動的空氣阻力大,就不說我還可以“側站”,或是把手藏在背後來減少空氣阻力‧你是見一不見二‧

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什麼合數學,合物理,簡直是笑話。
是你的數學、物理的知識是笑話。

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CSIA4 也不能算是高手,我們post 出來那些是滑得最好那一班,我們才叫高手,你自稱是高手,也不是拿你來跟他們比,只是用他們來當示範。用你來跟他們比較,你不佩
事實是你還沒有“高手”的知識和技術,是你不佩下“高手”的定義‧你的“高手”的定義跟你認為只有能滑饅頭才算是會滑雪的想法一樣—shallow/浮淺。

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即然我“講這理論是很合理”,那邏輯的結論就是你“無恥偽教練實致名歸”。



不是,是你“只能”看到我在trail run上滑還skidding,結果卻是你“管眼”的“瞽盲不視”還“自騙自”‧要不要指出我什麼時候“skidding”?

Tai Chi Ski at Heavenly Lake Tahoe Feb 2012 by Shen - YouTube




Ahh... no, “用 radius 長的 GS skis 也可以做出 radius 長的刻線”已經是“line skiing”,而這個“line skiing”,“with all else are equal,”一定比同一個人的“turn skiing”快‧ “Line skiing” is a higher skill.



不會,就是我“身體站得高而雙手打開”也不會比你帶兩根雪杖還前後移動的空氣阻力大,就不說我還可以“側站”,或是把手藏在背後來減少空氣阻力‧你是見一不見二‧



是你的數學、物理的知識是笑話。



事實是你還沒有“高手”的知識和技術,是你不佩下“高手”的定義‧你的“高手”的定義跟你認為只有能滑饅頭才算是會滑雪的想法一樣—shallow/浮淺。

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合理的理論,但完全做不出來,講跟做完全是兩回事,所以無恥偽太極是實致名歸。

你這段 trail 的片,跟相片比,彎的 radius 短了很多,速度自然已經減了不在話下,而且轉得急, 語其說你什麼時候skidding ,不如說你什麼時候沒 skidding , 有相片那種滑缐


人家 GS racer能用 GS Skis 刻畫,from green tun to black run all the way down , 而你自能在trail 滑幾個彎,什麼 line skiing, 自欺欺人。

如果真的到50km/hour 的速度,你仍可側站,雙手放後,才講,你由開始滑時雙手放在身後一兩秒,全程手到要打開,你的滑雪側站,雙手放後, 在慢速是可以,快些時,包你跌過頭破血流

滑雪高手就是能在大部分的地型,雪質,能暢順地,快速地,穩定地滑下來,

如果滑得下來便算高手,那麼就一山都是高手。

還有,你到陡坡横滑,閃避, side slip ,怎樣附合物理,數學, velocity 怎樣,kinetic energy 怎樣,你還未解釋,不要又一句小知小人,下流人下流的話便算數。


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Actually, I did provide proof, you just denied it, and no, I don't think you know how to read the video, you may not even watch it.

Shadow skiing Nevada Woods, Heavenly - YouTube


SomeTrees and SomeBumps - YouTube



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又是橫滑,左閃右躲,加找路,停下滑下,高手滑雪,那會要慢那麼多下來找路,看一眼便知路線,

你那有什麼 line, 見步行步,看不清便停下來,左顧右盼,所以說你亞伯遊花園一點沒錯,十分鐘,天天滑,那麼熟悉地形仍要滑十分鐘

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不需要用“喊”的,你講話大聲並不表示你講話有理或是有力,事實上卻是剛好相反,它們正透漏了你內心的恐懼不安,絕望的爭扎,用“喊”的來壯膽。

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[size="5"]合理的理論,但完全做不出來,講跟做完全是兩回事,所以無恥偽太極是實致名歸。
你自己不會“物理”又“瞽盲不視”,奈何,實致名歸無恥的偽教練?

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你這段 trail 的片,跟相片比,彎的 radius 短了很多,速度自然已經減了不在話下,而且轉得急, 語其說你什麼時候skidding ,不如說你什麼時候沒 skidding , 有相片那種滑缐
看來是你看不出skidding在那,或是看不懂什麼是“skidding”而亂七八糟的說,堂塞‧那段影片我滑的是“slipping turns”,沒有skidding‧下面的影片是同一個人拍的,看我用“同樣”的“skidding”追snowrider的“carving”,厲害!

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: Chasing through Olympic Downhill, Heavenly - YouTube



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人家 GS racer能用 GS Skis 刻畫,from green tun to black run all the way down , 而你自能在trail 滑幾個彎,什麼 line skiing, 自欺欺人。
不稀奇,我要是有GS Skis一樣“from green tun to black run all the way down,”,是你的“管眼”“只能”看到我“自能在trail 滑幾個彎”,“自欺欺人”‧

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: Pinnacles, Heavenly - YouTube



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如果真的到50km/hour 的速度,你仍可側站,雙手放後,才講,你由開始滑時雙手放在身後一兩秒,全程手到要打開,你的滑雪側站,雙手放後, 在慢速是可以,快些時,包你跌過頭破血流
已經給你看過了,自己不看,還亂七八糟的說,小知小人‧

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: carving on flat boards - YouTube



另外,下面這影片,這L3用的是刻板,所以比我快,看我怎樣把“雙手放後”追他‧

Heavenly skiing: local hotdogs II, Ricardo, Olympic Downhill, Heavenly - YouTube



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滑雪高手就是能在大部分的地型,雪質,能暢順地,快速地,穩定地滑下來,
同意你說的這一段,但是你自認滑雪不合那標準,不敢當“高手”?還是你小人「以退為進」說自己不是高手來說別人高手不是高手來滿足你“以下犯上為榮”更厲害的虛榮?那不是“高手”的技術,那是“固步自封”。

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如果滑得下來便算高手,那麼就一山都是高手。
沒說過“滑得下來便算高手”,那是你小知小人“自騙自”的“曲解事實”。

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還有,你到陡坡横滑,閃避, side slip ,怎樣附合物理,數學, velocity 怎樣,kinetic energy 怎樣,你還未解釋,不要又一句小知小人,下流人下流的話便算數。
我想你是一口咬太大,結果嚼不動也吞不下‧給你解釋,你看不懂就否認,或是不看,我沒有那麼呆,你自己慢慢看吧‧

http://www.taomartialarts.com/ski/ski_prin_tech.html

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不需要用“喊”的,你講話大聲並不表示你講話有理或是有力,事實上卻是剛好相反,它們正透漏了你內心的恐懼不安,絕望的爭扎,用“喊”的來壯膽。

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[size="5"][b]又是橫滑,左閃右躲,加找路,停下滑下,高手滑雪,那會要慢那麼多下來找路,看一眼便知路線,
那叫“先鋒開路”,Line-skiing可以找一條路滑出來,你們Turn-skiing只能在那樹林裡“卡”,那樹林是40度的斜坡和 “old growths”(老森林,樹大而密,到地的“原始林”),“沒有”說“看一眼便知路線” 這回事,你要是能從這森林滑出來,我給你credits/承認你會滑樹林。

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你那有什麼 line, 見步行步,看不清便停下來,左顧右盼,所以說你亞伯遊花園一點沒錯,十分鐘,天天滑,那麼熟悉地形仍要滑十分鐘
The tricky part of Line-skiing就是原本就是沒有一條Line給你做line-skiing,你需要自己找一條或說滑一條Line出來,那是我前面說的,“into the unkown,” 那才是滑樹林精彩刺激的地方‧“仍要滑十分鐘”?等你滑出這森林再說吧‧

Shadow skiing Nevada Woods, Heavenly - YouTube



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另外,下面這影片,這L3用的是刻板,所以比我快,看我怎樣把“雙手放後”追他‧

Heavenly skiing: local hotdogs II, Ricardo, Olympic Downhill, Heavenly - YouTube


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我得更正一件事,這位L3的動作比PKU差。
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Not sure if you have the back ground knowledge to comprehend what I say, but ok, I'll try. Given a curved ski track, the relationship between the “angular acceleration” (a) (you do know what that is, don't you?), velocity (V), and the radius of the curved path (R) is given as R= V*V/a, and that is to say, mathematically, the longer the turn radius the faster the speed. The faster speed gives higher Kinetic Energy, which is given as KE=1/2* m*V*V, and the higher the KE gives higher performance. So, by observing the tracks that the skier left behind, we can estimate the energy the skier carried. When all else are equal, the straighter ski tracks carry higher energy than curvier one.

Flatboard carving shows straighter line above than the pure-carving track below, “line-skiing” carries higher energy than “turn skiing.” And you don't know these relationship and cannot see that, your “tunnel vision” is proven.
You sure that's your mathematical and scientific prove? Your math and phy must be really bad to begin with or your just go copy-n-paste some formulas. I give you a 2nd chance to "correct" your answer here. Let some one to correct a so-call TaiChi master with so many years of claimed experience is a shameful thing to happen.

Could you also define what is "flatboard carving" and how does that different from pure-carving?

And could you also define what is "line skiing" and how that different from "turn skiing"?

Just don't want to keep arguing what is what. Let's listen to your definition and follow that.
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