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舊 2014-02-20, 11:07 AM   #1
taichiskiing
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The one of most common ways of the old schools to teach skiing progression is to start out a beginner with a wedge stance, which brakes the skier's speed naturally, so the beginner can learn to do Wedge Turns/snowplows, then it progresses to do Christie Turns, then onto the Parallel Turns.

The slow speed of the wedge stance, easy to control and easy to learn, is good for the beginners to learn and to begin their skiing journey, however, when the habit is formed, the habit is hard to break, even some well verse in parallel turns advanced skiers stumble into wedge turns where the going gets tough, such as on steep terrain.

In functionality, there's nothing wrong with Christie Turns, only they break the grace and beauty of the Parallel Turns. So, what's the remedy? To kill the culprit at its roots, don't teach "wedge turns," teach "Direct to Parallel" instead.

Interesting subject, anyone?

:)
IS
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舊 2014-02-20, 03:09 PM   #2
beg
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The one of most common ways of the old schools to teach skiing progression is to start out a beginner with a wedge stance, which brakes the skier's speed naturally, so the beginner can learn to do Wedge Turns/snowplows, then it progresses to do Christie Turns, then onto the Parallel Turns.

The slow speed of the wedge stance, easy to control and easy to learn, is good for the beginners to learn and to begin their skiing journey, however, when the habit is formed, the habit is hard to break, even some well verse in parallel turns advanced skiers stumble into wedge turns where the going gets tough, such as on steep terrain.

In functionality, there's nothing wrong with Christie Turns, only they break the grace and beauty of the Parallel Turns. So, what's the remedy? To kill the culprit at its roots, don't teach "wedge turns," teach "Direct to Parallel" instead.

Interesting subject, anyone?

:)
IS
Wedge turn and christie turn are not the way we want to ski. It's just a learning process and CSIA call it fast track to parallel. Wedge turn is never easy to control because it require a strong pivoting movement from hip joint. it's quite difficult for senior including me because their joint are stiff. People think it's easy just because they form a wedge shape and cheating to turn with side cut not with the feet. One have good control wedge turn on steep that means he has very strong upper and lower body seperation and always turn with lower body and well balance. in our CSIA training sometimes we review this drills and not many skiers do it well.If advanced skiers stumble into wedge turns where the going gets tough that just means he is off balance and not able to turn with both feet.
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舊 2014-02-21, 11:14 AM   #3
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Oops, surprise, didn't expect this result, thanks for dropping in, virus. Looks like you are capable of discussing, what? have a changing heart? well, it is a good place to start. For the harmony of the forum, I'll play along, and hope you can last long as well.

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Wedge turn and christie turn are not the way we want to ski. It's just a learning process and CSIA call it fast track to parallel.
Fast track to skiing, maybe, but to "parallel"? No, that's why "Direct To Parallel"/DTP comes into the picture. Wedge turn and christie turn are bad news/side-effect for "parallel skiing," once the bad habit is formed, it is really hard to get rid of.

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Wedge turn is never easy to control because it require a strong pivoting movement from hip joint. it's quite difficult for senior including me because their joint are stiff. People think it's easy just because they form a wedge shape and cheating to turn with side cut not with the feet. One have good control wedge turn on steep that means he has very strong upper and lower body seperation and always turn with lower body and well balance. in our CSIA training sometimes we review this drills and not many skiers do it well.
Maybe you didn't teach them right? The wedge is formed by two skis' inside edges pointing together, so a wedge turn is to drive the "whole" wedge, not the individual skis, to turn so to maintain the integrity of the wedge. Once the "wedge" is maintained, both legs equally weighed, the wedge goes straight; right foot heavy, the wedge turns left, and vise versa. It is easier to turn the wedge with hips/pelvis. Once the outside/downhill ski has gained the control of the turn, match the inside/uphill ski to the outside ski to become parallel, and that is the essence of "christie turn." "Christie turn," due to the wedge turn, is slow but stable, is an effective technique for the beginners, the problem arises when some intermediate skiers hold on them too long, and prevent them from progressing into "true" parallel skiing. Due to my arthritis, I can no longer do effective wedge skiing anymore.

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If advanced skiers stumble into wedge turns where the going gets tough that just means he is off balance and not able to turn with both feet.
Not necessarily "off balance," "Christie turn" is still an effective and less tiring way to get down a mogul hill.

Whitecrane Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: TTB, Ellie's, Heavenly - YouTube



:)
IS
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舊 2014-02-21, 04:40 PM   #4
beg
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Oops, surprise, didn't expect this result, thanks for dropping in, virus. Looks like you are capable of discussing, what? have a changing heart? well, it is a good place to start. For the harmony of the forum, I'll play along, and hope you can last long as well.
:)
IS
Oops, don't be surprise, anyone can discuss but if you discuss with mouth full of shit will make the forum stink. For the history of the forum, your discuss won't last long and I'm ready to give you a lesson again.

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Fast track to skiing, maybe, but to "parallel"? No, that's why "Direct To Parallel"/DTP comes into the picture. Wedge turn and christie turn are bad news/side-effect for "parallel skiing," once the bad habit is formed, it is really hard to get rid of.
:)
IS
so the solution is push them to parallel before the bad habit formed.

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Maybe you didn't teach them right? The wedge is formed by two skis' inside edges pointing together, so a wedge turn is to drive the "whole" wedge, not the individual skis, to turn so to maintain the integrity of the wedge. Once the "wedge" is maintained, both legs equally weighed, the wedge goes straight; right foot heavy, the wedge turns left, and vise versa. It is easier to turn the wedge with hips/pelvis. Once the outside/downhill ski has gained the control of the turn, match the inside/uphill ski to the outside ski to become parallel, and that is the essence of "christie turn." "Christie turn," due to the wedge turn, is slow but stable, is an effective technique for the beginners, the problem arises when some intermediate skiers hold on them too long, and prevent them from progressing into "true" parallel skiing. Due to my arthritis, I can no longer do effective wedge skiing anymore.
:)
IS
One foot heavy to make it turn is what I mean cheating to use side cut to turn. The idea of wedge turn for beginner is turn with the feet but I do cheating when demo because it's easier to turn with edge. Of course you turn with both feet to mantain the wedge. A skier not doing true parallel turn because lack of understanding angulation and inclination. Two feet stick together without daylight like you could be a barrier to true parrell turn too.

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Not necessarily "off balance," "Christie turn" is still an effective and less tiring way to get down a mogul hill.

Whitecrane Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: TTB, Ellie's, Heavenly - YouTube


:)
IS
Looks like you do christie turn to control the turn radidus on a challenge run. You can't control the turn shape because you have too much upper body movement to put you off balance so you do christie turn to slow you down. Watch this real instructor perform a good control and consistance christie turn. His upper body is calm and turn with the feet but you sometimes turn with your upper body.


APSI Demonstration Skiing - Basic Christie - YouTube


此篇文章於 2014-02-21 04:57 PM 被 beg 編輯。
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舊 2014-02-22, 12:24 AM   #5
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Oops, don't be surprise, anyone can discuss but if you discuss with mouth full of shit will make the forum stink. For the history of the forum, your discuss won't last long and I'm ready to give you a lesson again.
Yup, same to you, if you shitting on the floor here again you'll take beating same as before and we have seen your “癩驢打滾”arguing style, not too pretty. You have a big mouth and cowardice only second to norman, and soon you will copy my words (so is your mind,) and nothing you can say and/or do about it.

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so the solution is push them to parallel before the bad habit formed.
That is the intension.

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One foot heavy to make it turn is what I mean cheating to use side cut to turn. The idea of wedge turn for beginner is turn with the feet but I do cheating when demo because it's easier to turn with edge. Of course you turn with both feet to mantain the wedge. A skier not doing true parallel turn because lack of understanding angulation and inclination. Two feet stick together without daylight like you could be a barrier to true parrell turn too.
No, in wedge, the whole sidecut is used to brake the speed of the ski, and the ski doesn't travel following the sidecut. The skier turns because the differential force that are exerted by the two skis, and the skis are turned by the "whole" trunk of the body, that is, "hips" or pelvis. You "cheat," so you don't understand the true meaning of the "wedge turn," extrapolating it out, it shows that you lack of understanding why a ski turns. Do you know the difference between "angulation" and "inclination," or you're just mouthing the terminologies like norman? And no, she doesn't ski every day.

Whitecrane Flatboarding: Orion, Heavenly - YouTube



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Looks like you do christie turn to control the turn radidus on a challenge run. You can't control the turn shape because you have too much upper body movement to put you off balance so you do christie turn to slow you down. Watch this real instructor perform a good control and consistance christie turn. His upper body is calm and turn with the feet but you sometimes turn with your upper body.
No, your pick of demonstration is "too" basic, on the green slope, flat, and "too" slow, watch again to see how Christie turn performs on advanced/black terrain.

Whitecrane Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: TTB, Ellie's, Heavenly - YouTube



APSI Demonstration Skiing - Basic Christie - YouTube



Do you have an idea "what" "Direct to Parallel" is?

:)
IS
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舊 2014-02-22, 08:39 AM   #6
beg
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Yup, same to you, if you shitting on the floor here again you'll take beating same as before and we have seen your “癩驢打滾”arguing style, not too pretty. You have a big mouth and cowardice only second to norman, and soon you will copy my words (so is your mind,) and nothing you can say and/or do about it.
:)
IS
Yup, I know you looks good when I shit on your face again and you like to take beating same as before . we have seen your “大極猴猴”arguing style, very pretty.You have a shit mouth and cowardice over norman,, and soon you will eat my shit again(so is your mind,) and nothing you can say and/or do about it.





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No, in wedge, the whole sidecut is used to brake the speed of the ski, and the ski doesn't travel following the sidecut. The skier turns because the differential force that are exerted by the two skis, and the skis are turned by the "whole" trunk of the body, that is, "hips" or pelvis. You "cheat," so you don't understand the true meaning of the "wedge turn," extrapolating it out, it shows that you lack of understanding why a ski turns.
:)
IS
You ski whatever you like. We do enjoy your park and ride skiing video. Your taichi walking video also cute. Don't lose control again on your taichi driving . I'll keep doing turn with lower body.

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Do you know the difference between "angulation" and "inclination," or you're just mouthing the terminologies like norman? And no, she doesn't ski every day.
:)
IS
We all know you like to ask something that you don't know what it is just like norman.

Whitecrane Flatboarding: Orion, Heavenly - YouTube




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No, your pick of demonstration is "too" basic, on the green slope, flat, and "too" slow, watch again to see how Christie turn performs on advanced/black terrain.

Whitecrane Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: TTB, Ellie's, Heavenly - YouTube


APSI Demonstration Skiing - Basic Christie - YouTube
:)
IS
My pick is showing a good control of Christie turn. From his performance we can tell he can do the same technique on steeper terrain. You have to park and ride each turn, it's not performance, it's just surviving .
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Do you have an idea "what" "Direct to Parallel" is?

:)
IS
Ask yourself the same question. Do you know what is taichiskiing?

此篇文章於 2014-02-22 08:54 AM 被 beg 編輯。
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舊 2014-02-22, 09:54 AM   #7
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Yup, I know you looks good when I shit on your face again and you like to take beating same as before . we have seen your “大極猴猴”arguing style, very pretty.You have a shit mouth and cowardice over norman,, and soon you will eat my shit again(so is your mind,) and nothing you can say and/or do about it.
Yup, guess that the same old human computer virus is back. No, I don't have to do anything, you can do it all by yourself, and you are pretty good at it.

「糞土之牆不可污也。」

“原形畢露”,once you been talked into and showing your true form of Human Computer Virus, my job is done, as every one here knows who you are, you cannot hurt anyone no more, except being destroyed by your own hatred.

Whitecrane Flatboarding: Orion, Heavenly - YouTube



I didn't think that you can last for two rounds in real discussion, not worth the thought. Enjoy your ghostly existence.

:)
IS

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You ski whatever you like. We do enjoy your park and ride skiing video. Your taichi walking video also cute. Don't lose control again on your taichi driving . I'll keep doing turn with lower body.

We all know you like to ask something that you don't know what it is just like norman.


My pick is showing a good control of Christie turn. From his performance we can tell he can do the same technique on steeper terrain. You have to park and ride each turn, it's not performance, it's just surviving .

Ask yourself the same question. Do you know what is taichiskiing?
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舊 2014-02-22, 10:57 AM   #8
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Yup, guess that the same old human computer virus is back. No, I don't have to do anything, you can do it all by yourself, and you are pretty good at it.

「糞土之牆不可污也。」

“原形畢露”,once you been talked into and showing your true form of Human Computer Virus, my job is done, as every one here knows who you are, you cannot hurt anyone no more, except being destroyed by your own hatred.


Whitecrane Flatboarding: Orion, Heavenly - YouTube


I didn't think that you can last for two rounds in real discussion, not worth the thought. Enjoy your ghostly existence.

:)
IS
你已經先做了,下面這一篇的第一段,你要是沒這第一段,beg就不會回你那第一段。

http://www.goski.com.tw/forum/showpo...30&postcount=3

Oops, surprise, didn't expect this result, thanks for dropping in, virus. Looks like you are capable of discussing, what? have a changing heart? well, it is a good place to start. For the harmony of the forum, I'll play along, and hope you can last long as well.

你的第三篇回言又多此一舉,還提到我,僵屍太極臭腳布纏人法又出現了。

所以你開這討論串,就是又要將你的太極臭腳布來纏人的,這種簡單的問題還要討論,要是懂的正確的方法,半制動就能馬上改進了,還要什麼惡習,那根本是藉口跟能力不足。

http://www.goski.com.tw/forum/showpo...35&postcount=5

Yup, same to you, if you shitting on the floor here again you'll take beating same as before and we have seen your “癩驢打滾”arguing style, not too pretty. You have a big mouth and cowardice only second to norman, and soon you will copy my words (so is your mind,) and nothing you can say and/or do about it.


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舊 2014-02-22, 04:42 PM   #9
beg
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Yup, guess that the same old human computer virus is back. No, I don't have to do anything, you can do it all by yourself, and you are pretty good at it.

「糞土之牆不可污也。」:)
IS
Yup, same old "大極猴猴”is always here. You are right, i don't have to do anything.Your own shit always go to your own mouth, and you are pretty good at it.
「糞土之猴不可污也。」


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“原形畢露”,once you been talked into and showing your true form of Human Computer Virus, my job is done, as every one here knows who you are, you cannot hurt anyone no more, except being destroyed by your own hatred.
:)
IS
“猴形畢露”,but my job is not done, as everyone here knows who I am except you, I'm here to kick your ass and make sure you won't hurt anyone. Sorry I know it hurts but baby don't cry, you will be fine.

Whitecrane Flatboarding: Orion, Heavenly - YouTube


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I didn't think that you can last for two rounds in real discussion, not worth the thought. Enjoy your ghostly existence.

:)
IS
Oh first time to hear you have a brain. I know your brain is not functioning because it's not growing anymore in your ass hole. Enjoy your monkey existence.
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舊 2014-02-23, 12:10 AM   #10
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Yup, same old "大極猴猴”is always here. You are right, i don't have to do anything.Your own shit always go to your own mouth, and you are pretty good at it.
「糞土之猴不可污也。」



“猴形畢露”,but my job is not done, as everyone here knows who I am except you, I'm here to kick your ass and make sure you won't hurt anyone. Sorry I know it hurts but baby don't cry, you will be fine.

Whitecrane Flatboarding: Orion, Heavenly - YouTube


Oh first time to hear you have a brain. I know your brain is not functioning because it's not growing anymore in your ass hole. Enjoy your monkey existence.
“Yup, same to you, if you shitting on the floor here again you'll take beating same as before and we have seen your “癩驢打滾”arguing style, not too pretty. You have a big mouth and cowardice only second to norman, and soon you will copy my words (so is your mind,) and nothing you can say and/or do about it.”

I did say that you are going to copycat my words;“ 跟屁蟲的本領不錯”,though you may be proud of your little character mischief and think that you have achieved something, but at the end of the day you will find only a foulmouthed Human Computer Virus crawling around on the net, being nowhere and going nowhere. Thanks for affirm my words.

And that's right my skiing don't hurt anyone except小技小人的little brain and big ego.

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: trees & bumps, Olympic Pines, Heavenly - YouTube



:)
IS
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舊 2014-02-23, 05:16 AM   #11
beg
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Yup, same to you, if you shitting on the floor here again you'll take beating same as before and we have seen your “癩驢打滾”arguing style, not too pretty. You have a big mouth and cowardice only second to norman, and soon you will copy my words (so is your mind,) and nothing you can say and/or do about it.”

I did say that you are going to copycat my words;“ 跟屁蟲的本領不錯”,though you may be proud of your little character mischief and think that you have achieved something, but at the end of the day you will find only a foulmouthed Human Computer Virus crawling around on the net, being nowhere and going nowhere. Thanks for affirm my words.

And that's right my skiing don't hurt anyone except小技小人的little brain and big ego.

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: trees & bumps, Olympic Pines, Heavenly - YouTube


:)
IS
Yup,when you shitting to your mouth again you'll take beating same as before and we have seen your “大極猴猴”arguing style, very pretty and sex like a women.

And that's right your shit mouth won't hurt anyone anymore because I kick off all your monkey tooth.
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舊 2014-02-23, 06:53 AM   #12
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你已經先做了,下面這一篇的第一段,你要是沒這第一段,beg就不會回你那第一段。

http://www.goski.com.tw/forum/showpo...30&postcount=3

Oops, surprise, didn't expect this result, thanks for dropping in, virus. Looks like you are capable of discussing, what? have a changing heart? well, it is a good place to start. For the harmony of the forum, I'll play along, and hope you can last long as well.
或說你的想法很幼稚?beg不是第一次在這論壇發言,而他的“惡行”在這論壇也是由來已久,你看不見/不知道?對,你“瞽盲不視”‧我不認為他是來“討論”的,也不認為他有這能力或有修養來“討論”,所以很“surprise”,上段的回言只是敘述一個事實,“投石問路”,Alas,他的“Human Computer Virus”一打就“原形畢露”。

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你的第三篇回言又多此一舉,還提到我,僵屍太極臭腳布纏人法又出現了。
編故事騙自己來損人罵人?就謝謝你自己的榜樣吧。

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所以你開這討論串,就是又要將你的太極臭腳布來纏人的,這種簡單的問題還要討論,要是懂的正確的方法,半制動就能馬上改進了,還要什麼惡習,那根本是藉口跟能力不足。

http://www.goski.com.tw/forum/showpo...35&postcount=5

Yup, same to you, if you shitting on the floor here again you'll take beating same as before and we have seen your “癩驢打滾”arguing style, not too pretty. You have a big mouth and cowardice only second to norman, and soon you will copy my words (so is your mind,) and nothing you can say and/or do about it.


沒有那麼簡單,“要是〔一個人〕懂的正確的方法”,他已經在平行滑雪了,他還會卡在“半制動”上面嗎?你的“簡單”只是因為你還沒滑過什麼難的地方‧你又知道“半制動”“轉彎的問題”在那?

弱慢族的爭論,弱慢族的裹屍布,弱慢族的論壇,我不認為你們能討論“進階”的主題;弱慢族的滑雪,不談也罷。

:)
IS
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舊 2014-02-23, 06:59 AM   #13
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Yup,when you shitting to your mouth again you'll take beating same as before and we have seen your “大極猴猴”arguing style, very pretty and sex like a women.

And that's right your shit mouth won't hurt anyone anymore because I kick off all your monkey tooth.
Of course you do, that's how internet makes a shithead, and the problem for the shithead is, a shithead doesn't know its mind is full of shit. So it goes.

:)
IS
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舊 2014-02-23, 08:50 AM   #14
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Of course you do, that's how internet makes a shithead, and the problem for the shithead is, a shithead doesn't know its mind is full of shit. So it goes.

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Glad to hear that you shithead finally know your mouth is full of shit, congrualation.
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舊 2014-02-23, 09:02 AM   #15
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你已經先做了,下面這一篇的第一段,你要是沒這第一段,beg就不會回你那第一段。

http://www.goski.com.tw/forum/showpo...30&postcount=3

Oops, surprise, didn't expect this result, thanks for dropping in, virus. Looks like you are capable of discussing, what? have a changing heart? well, it is a good place to start. For the harmony of the forum, I'll play along, and hope you can last long as well.

你的第三篇回言又多此一舉,還提到我,僵屍太極臭腳布纏人法又出現了。

所以你開這討論串,就是又要將你的太極臭腳布來纏人的,這種簡單的問題還要討論,要是懂的正確的方法,半制動就能馬上改進了,還要什麼惡習,那根本是藉口跟能力不足。

http://www.goski.com.tw/forum/showpo...35&postcount=5

Yup, same to you, if you shitting on the floor here again you'll take beating same as before and we have seen your “癩驢打滾”arguing style, not too pretty. You have a big mouth and cowardice only second to norman, and soon you will copy my words (so is your mind,) and nothing you can say and/or do about it.


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或說你的想法很幼稚?beg不是第一次在這論壇發言,而他的“惡行”在這論壇也是由來已久,你看不見/不知道?對,你“瞽盲不視”‧我不認為他是來“討論”的,也不認為他有這能力或有修養來“討論”,所以很“surprise”,上段的回言只是敘述一個事實,“投石問路”,Alas,他的“Human Computer Virus”一打就“原形畢露”。



編故事騙自己來損人罵人?就謝謝你自己的榜樣吧。



沒有那麼簡單,“要是〔一個人〕懂的正確的方法”,他已經在平行滑雪了,他還會卡在“半制動”上面嗎?你的“簡單”只是因為你還沒滑過什麼難的地方‧你又知道“半制動”“轉彎的問題”在那?

弱慢族的爭論,弱慢族的裹屍布,弱慢族的論壇,我不認為你們能討論“進階”的主題;弱慢族的滑雪,不談也罷。

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一貫的"太極猴猴" 潑婦駡街一哭二駡三上吊,賊喊捉賊,要哭就回家跟妳夫人哭吧,怪可憐的。

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舊 2014-02-23, 10:45 AM   #16
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Glad to hear that you shithead finally know your mouth is full of shit, congrualation.
No, that's only the echo in your head, as it is only a "shit"head, shit is all you hear, which makes it self-evidenced "shithead," congratulate yourself, you've "truly" made yourself a "shithead."

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一貫的"太極猴猴" 潑婦駡街一哭二駡三上吊,賊喊捉賊,要哭就回家跟妳夫人哭吧,怪可憐的。
想來一定是你經驗豐富,所以隨時就可以朗朗上口‧是很空白的生命,不是嗎?尤其被“卡”在網路上“編故事騙自己來損人罵人”來“自慰”,是很可憐的。

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No, that's only the echo in your head, as it is only a "shit"head, shit is all you hear, which makes it self-evidenced "shithead," congratulate yourself, you've "truly" made yourself a "shithead."

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Oh sorry to know you always got shit echo in your head. I guess because you got all your own shit in your mouth. As it's only a shit mouth,shit is all you hear, which makes yourself-evidenced "shitmouth," don't worry i"ll keep kicking your shit mouth until you recover.
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想來一定是你經驗豐富,所以隨時就可以朗朗上口‧是很空白的生命,不是嗎?尤其被“卡”在網路上“編故事騙自己來損人罵人”來“自慰”,是很可憐的。:)
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原來是你潑婦駡街一哭二駡三上吊經驗豐富、所以隨時就可以上吊、是很淫賤的生命,不是嗎?尤其自慰時被“卡”在網路上“編故事騙自己來損人罵人”,是很可憐的老人虫。
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或說你的想法很幼稚?beg不是第一次在這論壇發言,而他的“惡行”在這論壇也是由來已久,你看不見/不知道?對,你“瞽盲不視”‧我不認為他是來“討論”的,也不認為他有這能力或有修養來“討論”,所以很“surprise”,上段的回言只是敘述一個事實,“投石問路”,Alas,他的“Human Computer Virus”一打就“原形畢露”。



編故事騙自己來損人罵人?就謝謝你自己的榜樣吧。



沒有那麼簡單,“要是〔一個人〕懂的正確的方法”,他已經在平行滑雪了,他還會卡在“半制動”上面嗎?你的“簡單”只是因為你還沒滑過什麼難的地方‧你又知道“半制動”“轉彎的問題”在那?

弱慢族的爭論,弱慢族的裹屍布,弱慢族的論壇,我不認為你們能討論“進階”的主題;弱慢族的滑雪,不談也罷。

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好吧,那下面的話,請當作我對你「投石問路」吧。

看在你還會回幾句算有營養的話,只要不要再用你的僵屍太極臭腳布纏上來,倒是可以聊聊,還是很快你就「原形畢露」?又開始僵屍太極病毒發作了?看你能支持多久不會發作?我不認為你可以支持很久?


沒學過滑雪,全制動一定無法馬上會,不會全制動,自然不可能會半制動,所以更談不上半制動只是一個人的自然反射動作。

人的自然反射動作只會反應出曾經花過最多時間練習的那個動作。

為何半制動很難改進為全制動,我認為有幾個原因:

1. 只學過全制動,最多學到半自動,往後併腿滑是靠自己猜想或是自學或是自己研究,但方式不對,一但上較難的坡道,自然打回原形。
2. 教的人,本身動作也不行,對動作也許在簡單的滑道ok,但在較困難的地形就不行了,這我認為是對動作還是一知半解,要是真的懂了,自然在困難的地形就會練習,會練習正確的方式才有辦法改進。

想要快速改進,只有一點,燒香求好運吧?遇到一個真正懂得如何併腿滑的原理教學或某個人,因為真正懂得併腿滑的人,可以讓學習的人在一堂課從半制動直接進入全程併腿滑的功力。

好,那話說回來,如何從半制動能快速進入一個良好正確的併腿滑,有三個主要要素:

1. 良好的平衡站姿,及正確的曲張方法。
2. 雙腳平板才能轉動的正確想法。
3. 正確的轉動髖關結帶動雙腳的方法。

其他如雙腳同時轉動及利用點杖時效來調整,這些只是個加強動作,讓雙小腿不A而已。

所以,只要懂得教這三點,就算是頑固半制動習慣也是能改的,除非學習的人還老是在講,以前誰誰如何教,我覺得那樣滑比較習慣舒服安心的想法,那就隨那個人去囉,教而沒仔細踏實的學習及練習那就不是自己的問題了。

我主張別去思考內外腳重心移動的想法,對一般人來講,滑雪已經是個複雜的動作,應該回歸到最單純而簡單的方法,那才是最有效,而不是把問題複雜化。

至於你懂不懂,我不知道,沒影片證明。至於我懂不懂,我卻是有影片證明的,即使被你的胡話沾污,有影片終究好過沒影片,所以就別再以同樣的話來當臭腳布纏了。
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