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舊 2017-02-10, 10:32 PM   #101
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你們講的時候,我以為一邊是壓雪,一邊沒壓雪。



不可能,他比我輕十幾公斤,而且我只有在沒人的寬雪道,才敢飆速度。
你有眼的,你自己看不見?饅頭缐只有兩條,雪道那麼寬,你為何經常衝向那些饅頭

你跟本轉彎技術差極,控制不了滑缐,有人便要剎車控制,你包一個不倒又小的雪場自己滑,那便沒有其他人,那你便可飆,又不用轉彎
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舊 2017-02-10, 11:35 PM   #102
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你有眼的,你自己看不見?饅頭缐只有兩條,雪道那麼寬,你為何經常衝向那些饅頭

你跟本轉彎技術差極,控制不了滑缐,有人便要剎車控制,你包一個不倒又小的雪場自己滑,那便沒有其他人,那你便可飆,又不用轉彎
聽你這麼講,我有點想起來了,直線饅頭在左右兩邊各有一條,而我們在中間,而lelo一下撞進右邊直線饅頭,一下又撞進左邊直線饅頭,所以我們都看了無言,反而中間的小包子他也控制不了,所以他一但過完小包子,沒法控制往下滑,就一定會撞進其中一邊的直接饅頭,難怪我一直覺得他好像不覺得直線饅頭的溝他應付不了,當成一般稍大的饅頭給撞進去了,難怪我們一直叫他別進左右兩邊的直線饅頭,他就是偏偏要進去,想來到現在他還完全不能明白他是什麼滑下來的吧?

他就說他需要很寬的滑道才行,平常一般滑道他都覺得不夠寬,當時我聽到也昏了。
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舊 2017-02-10, 11:41 PM   #103
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你有眼的,你自己看不見?饅頭缐只有兩條,雪道那麼寬,你為何經常衝向那些饅頭

你跟本轉彎技術差極,控制不了滑缐,有人便要剎車控制,你包一個不倒又小的雪場自己滑,那便沒有其他人,那你便可飆,又不用轉彎
我是真的沒看到。

那時我以為雪道超出我的能力範圍,已經進入保命半制動模式。
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舊 2017-02-10, 11:44 PM   #104
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他就說他需要很寬的滑道才行,平常一般滑道他都覺得不夠寬,當時我聽到也昏了。
我那時技巧還不夠好, 控制不好有時就要急煞車,這時就要有夠寬的滑道讓我停下來。

寬一點的雪道餘裕較高,練起來比較沒負擔,我去滑雪又不是要創紀錄。
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舊 2017-02-11, 12:15 AM   #105
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我那時技巧還不夠好, 控制不好有時就要急煞車,這時就要有夠寬的滑道讓我停下來。

寬一點的雪道餘裕較高,練起來比較沒負擔,我去滑雪又不是要創紀錄。
這跟創不創記錄沒有關係,而是你整個觀念跟動作基礎動作不行,就會變成反應遲頓,自然要花更多的猶豫跟準備時間,這會是你最大的問題。
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舊 2017-02-11, 12:28 AM   #106
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這跟創不創記錄沒有關係,而是你整個觀念跟動作基礎動作不行,就會變成反應遲頓,自然要花更多的猶豫跟準備時間,這會是你最大的問題。
我要去參加比賽ㄟ?

我滑雪確實毛病一堆,像雪鏡起霧、臨時想大便或是得要停下來散熱,都會讓我跟不上隊伍,所以我比較喜歡一個人滑,自己慢慢耗。
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舊 2017-02-11, 12:55 AM   #107
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我要去參加比賽ㄟ?

我滑雪確實毛病一堆,像雪鏡起霧、臨時想大便或是得要停下來散熱,都會讓我跟不上隊伍,所以我比較喜歡一個人滑,自己慢慢耗。
你的毛病是正常人都會有的呀,有次拉肚子去跑廁所,就被pku丟下了,趕快去廁所比較重要,我也不希望雪友等我,所以這是正常的。

至於我的雪鏡也會起霧,也是正常的。

而你會流汗需要散熱,確實初中級都是這個樣子,動作不好,剎車剎太多了,就像游泳一樣,有人游一兩趟就喘到不行,有人可以游一二十趟,但比較起來,難道游一二十趟的體力耐力跟只能游一兩趟的十二十倍嗎?顯然不可能的嘛。

但你不努力想練好動作來消除流汗累的問題,反而都搞一些容易害你受傷的問題,這跟比賽有關係嗎?沒關係呀,這要問你到底想不想輕鬆滑雪,把動作練漂亮而已。聽來你即不想練好動作,覺得這樣滑就好,但又要研究白費工的事,我都覺得不值得吧。
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舊 2017-02-11, 01:30 AM   #108
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而你會流汗需要散熱,確實初中級都是這個樣子,動作不好,剎車剎太多了,就像游泳一樣,有人游一兩趟就喘到不行,有人可以游一二十趟,但比較起來,難道游一二十趟的體力耐力跟只能游一兩趟的十二十倍嗎?顯然不可能的嘛。
那是因為我體重九十幾公斤,不煞車的速度比你快很多,要能滑這麼快當然需要更高技術。

你如果沒辦法滑的比我快,我能相信你技術比我好?
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那是因為我體重九十幾公斤,不煞車的速度比你快很多,要能滑這麼快當然需要更高技術。

你如果沒辦法滑的比我快,我能相信你技術比我好?
所以說,這是我的失算,我都滑在你前面,還等你,你都覺得我滑得比你慢,所以哪天要讓你明白,等先在山上講好,誰先滑到下面的纜車站,那你是不是就心服口服了?

不過說實在的,你就是技術不好,所以才要常常剎車,不是嗎?在困難滑道滑比你快了,還不叫技術比你好,我都不知什麼說你了。

還有,在相同的滑道,你會摔倒,我不會摔倒,算不算技術比你好?

剛才想到了一件事,EpicSki其中一個人看了你我的影片說的話,算不算?

Looking at the difference between how the two of you ski, I think you are skiing better than Jacob, but it's not a huge difference.
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所以說,這是我的失算,我都滑在你前面,還等你,你都覺得我滑得比你慢,所以哪天要讓你明白,等先在山上講好,誰先滑到下面的纜車站,那你是不是就心服口服了?

不過說實在的,你就是技術不好,所以才要常常剎車,不是嗎?在困難滑道滑比你快了,還不叫技術比你好,我都不知什麼說你了。
亂講!在 annupuri 跟在你背後拍照時,都常常快要撞上你,我跟你後面都要用半制動滑,速度才能慢下來。
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亂講!在 annupuri 跟在你背後拍照時,都常常快要撞上你,我跟你後面都要用半制動滑,速度才能慢下來。
那是你不會正確的轉彎,我在初中級去上課,我也跟不好前面的教練,都差點撞上教練,那是教練技術比我差嗎嗎?你沒法跟我的彎,那是你技術不好,不是我技術不好,你搞錯方向了,我是併腿滑,你要變成半制動轉彎剎車耶。

再重覆一句,這句算不算?

Looking at the difference between how the two of you ski, I think you are skiing better than Jacob, but it's not a huge difference.
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那是你不會正確的轉彎,我在初中級去上課,我也跟不好前面的教練,都差點撞上教練,那是教練技術比我差嗎嗎?你沒法跟我的彎,那是你技術不好,不是我技術不好,你搞錯方向了。
我技術當然沒多好,但你速度不夠快是事實。
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我技術當然沒多好,但你速度不夠快是事實。
就說那是你不會正確的控制轉彎,你的滑線是直的,我的是胖橢圓的,你懂嗎?意思就是你雪板所經過的彎的長度比我短太多了,把線拉直的話,我的雪板在雪上行走的速度是你的三倍,你懂嗎?
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就說那是你不會正確的控制轉彎,你的滑線是直的,我的是胖橢圓的,你懂嗎?意思就是你雪板所經過的彎的長度比我短太多了,把線拉直的話,我的雪板在雪上行走的速度是你的三倍,你懂嗎?
不可能啦!
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That's what you said, I need to break and stop more than her. I challenge her this run is fair enough.
I’ve talked to my wife about your proposal, she said leave her out of it, but she was perplexed, said, “I’m sixty-five years old woman, he is fifty something CSIA level 2 instructor, even he wins me, 沒面子,輸了更丟臉,what’s his point?” I’m kind of agreeing with her, she is neither a bumper nor a competitor, and no interest to exhaust herself to win a fake fame. I can sub for her, if you are interested it.
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You can call yourself whatever you want. Awesome,strong , Excellent and anybody can say these words to describe oneself. These words become meaningful if it comes out from other people especially from people don't really know you.
And you can say anything negative you want, without facts that only makes you a shameless slanderer. “Awesome” is your word.

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I have clip that skied powder, in tress and of course on groom. I don't know why you said I cannot do it. You never had clip doing short turns on bumps, link turns with rhythm on powder or on steep. You can only turn better on easy groom like trails.
No, “fifty seconds glory” doesn’t count much for me, and your powder and trail runs are “ugly and slow” (does that sound familiar to you?) And I’ve learned another fact from you whistler group/弱慢族, as gappers in general, you gappers responding my posts without reading my articles or videos, just shameless say things negative, pure bashing, “without facts that only makes you a shameless slanderer.”

Here’s one of my powder run, see if you can “recognize” “link turns with rhythm on powder”?

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: powder skiing, 2011 - YouTube



And no, I don’t generally do short turns on moguls, too tedious, and tiring, but I don’t have problem to ski with you “turn for turn” with your short turn.

Heavenly skiing: ski with a Tahoe local, Cathy, Olympic Pines - YouTube



And even “only turn better on easy groom like trails” is better than you cannot ski smoothly on trails.

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You can ski a bit faster on easy groom and no traverse on this kind of easy runs. That's true

That's because you always traverse on non groomed runs. How can one ski fast if one needs to traverse a lot. That's simple physics .
Yes, I enjoy the thrills of “speed,” bumps and moguls field don’t generate that kind of speed. And at my age I cannot affort a misshap, so on the difficult terrain I always ski like “如臨深淵,如履博冰”;Kamikaze style skiing is neither skillful nor good.


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See how much you traverse in this clips
What you call “traverse,” I call it “going places.”

Taichi Skiing: powder bump tree skiing - YouTube



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I said you need to traverse a lot on bumps, steep, trees but then you always post your clips on easy groom runs, trails.
What you call “traverse a lot on bumps,” I called it “long radius turn across the hill and Wedeln over bumps, and that’s my “style,” and my style reflects the terrain and the beauty of the natural forces, which act on our human body. How I “feeL’ is what I ski for, not how I “look,” and my groom runs illustrate that point. You have a narrow view on “skiing.” Nevertheless, do you say this run is “easy groom runs, trails”?

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: Short Spoke gully, Kirkwood - YouTube



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When I said your wife ski very slow on Ellis, you said I cannot catch up with her. Then now I ask for bet and now you retract and said her specialty is groom. Then let's split it to $250.00 for a run. One run on Ellis and one run on Olympic downhill.
I’ve talked to my wife about your proposal, she said leave her out of it, but she was perplexed, said, “I’m sixty-five old woman, he wins me, 沒面子,輸了更丟臉,“What’s his point?”and I kind of agree with her, she is neither a bumper nor a competitor, and has no interest to exhaust herself to win a fake fame. I can sub for her, if you are interested it.

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As Whistler pass holder, we can ski Heavenly for 5 days free. I am just waiting for good deal on flight tickets and hotels. Once I confirm, I'll let you know. I'll ski 1-2 days before we meet. I need to be a bit familiar with the runs and condition and know the mountain a bit better.

With you, one run on Gunbarrel and one run in the trees. Let me know the tree run few days before I come.




When we meet, you need to get enough cash. If you don't have enough cash, we can reduce the bet to the amount you have. $1000.00 is the maximum.

There may be a bunch of people coming from the area of San Francisco skiing with me. They can be the witnesses. Although not confirmed yet.
That sounds a big party, sure, if you can make it happens I’ll partake. We , since my wife won’t participate, so just you and me, can race the four events you mentioned for $250. Each; others would like to participate the race is fine with me, we just put money into a pot, winner takes all, race in Chinese Downhill format, first cross the finish line wins. Now, we need to set a date.
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I’ve talked to my wife about your proposal, she said leave her out of it, but she was perplexed, said, “I’m sixty-five years old woman, he is fifty something CSIA level 2 instructor, even he wins me, 沒面子,輸了更丟臉,what’s his point?” I’m kind of agreeing with her, she is neither a bumper nor a competitor, and no interest to exhaust herself to win a fake fame. I can sub for her, if you are interested it.
CSIA L2 only ski blue or green groom runs so quite a bit of L2 cannot do bumps and off piste runs. Tell your wife to bit a CSIA L2 is not hard.

There is a Chinese couple, man 65, wife 55, skiing Whistler for 10 years without any instructor certification ( maximum L1 )

They got many Chinese L2 friends and those L2 cannot keep up with them, not even close

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That sounds a big party, sure, if you can make it happens I’ll partake. We , since my wife won’t participate, so just you and me, can race the four events you mentioned for $250. Each; others would like to participate the race is fine with me, we just put money into a pot, winner takes all, race in Chinese Downhill format, first cross the finish line wins. Now, we need to set a date.
Ok.
One runs on Gunbarrel from top of chair to bottom of chair .
One one on Ellie's from top of chair to bottom of chair
One run on Olympic downhill, I'll try to check the map and see what's the best spot to start and where to end.
The forth one, I skied the Ellie's less than 10mins then I win

$250.00 each run, provide visibility is good
For low visibility, the one skiing there everyday for more than 10 years got huge advantage

I'll ski a bit by myself for 2 days before we meet

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不可能啦!
好吧,我想錯了,那只好前影片來看看,我找了一個跟你的影片一樣的彎,但我拍的坡度是紅線,你的是綠線。 一個彎,幾乎一樣的時間,一樣的長度,但是你的向下的長度比我還長,我的比彎比較胖,C彎的入口跟出口點上下的距離比較短,只是不知你有沒有這個眼力看得懂。

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好吧,我想錯了,那只好前影片來看看,我找了一個跟你的影片一樣的彎,但我拍的坡度是紅線,你的是綠線。 一個彎,幾乎一樣的時間,一樣的長度,但是你的向下的長度比我還長,我的比彎比較胖,C彎的入口跟出口點上下的距離比較短,只是不知你有沒有這個眼力看得懂。
滑胖灣能減速我當然知道,問題是在拍那段片子時,我不想減速啊!

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