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舊 2011-04-29, 10:16 PM   #1
lelo
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預設 Martin Heckelman動作影片

(代 norman 發文)

Martin有出兩本書(每有新心得出現,就會來翻翻這本書),五片DVD教學(目前已知)。

個人覺得他的教學方式相當不錯。

屬歐式風格,奧地利當地的私人教練,具有三十年以上的教學經驗。

剪的這段影片是最新的DVD教學(第五片),拿在手上有三年以上了,直到今年才敢說有真正看懂他的動作了,沒達到是很難理解他在示範什麼動作。

我今年拍的動作跟開頭的第一段動作幾乎一模一樣吧?接下來未來再出門就會陸續拍後面那些片段一樣的動作,會就是會,不會就是用看的還是不會,看得懂文字,做不出來就等於不會,只有真正能做到像影片中的動作,才可能真正了解其中的含意,這是今年我最大的感受。

我個人比較喜歡像這樣開放式的滑法,也比較輕鬆,看起來也比較優美又悠閒多了,像那種彎腰太多,蹲得太低,讓人覺得真的滑起來太辛苦,所以技術好也可以不用蹲那麼低,上半身一樣可以自然站好,這優美的滑法也是我一直的目標囉,但也別認為這種技術級數很低,沒學會是很難體會其中的深奧的,能延伸的動作可就多了,不過多了那部份都太費力了,出國滑雪是度假,不是把自己操倒。

今天特地剪這段動作影片,讓大家享受一下另一種滑法風格,不要只局限在自己的小小世界,除了自己所學就去說他人的東西是垃圾(曾有人只看了一遍他的教學書就直接這麼說)。

在此我去掉教學語音,另改配樂,如果還有版權問題不適合放上來,請告知。


YouTube - Martin Heckelman動作影片




如果喜歡他的動作,我有看到另一些舊的影片教學,可以點進去看看(下面這片網址連結,雖沒寫示範者是誰,應該是同一個人沒錯)。

http://www.youtube.com/user/RedTeamProds#p/u/10/6W7gJ1dI07A

YouTube - SkiTips2 Bumps Ski Lesson


此篇文章於 2011-04-29 11:34 PM 被 lelo 編輯。
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舊 2011-04-30, 12:32 AM   #2
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Norman - sorry that I am going hurt your feeling again.

If the skier in red is your idol, now everything makes sense to me about your skiing like a moving statue. His skiing won't even be able to pass our PSIA L2 standard.

To compare his mogul skiing with pku's, pku is 10 times better than Heckelman.

A freindly suggestion to you - not to waste your time and money on this Heckelman stuff. Otherwise, you will at most ski like him - looking good to novie but actually a joke to professional one.

Note that at 47", Heckelman almost lost his balance on a bump because his CM did not catch up with his feet.
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舊 2011-04-30, 12:39 AM   #3
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Norman - sorry that I am going hurt your feeling again.

If the skier in red is your idol, now everything makes sense to me about your skiing like a moving statue. His skiing won't even be able to pass our PSIA L2 standard.

To compare his mogul skiing with pku's, pku is 10 times better than Heckelman.

A freindly suggestion to you - not to waste your time and money on this Heckelman stuff. Otherwise, you will at most ski like him - looking good to novie but actually a joke to professional one.

Note that at 47", Heckelman almost lost his balance on a bump because his CM did not catch up with his feet.
Thanks for you credit. It's still a long way for me to refine my skiing skill.

I can say his skiing is not modern and he moved his upper body up and down a bit too much on the bumps.

The way he ski on the bumps may be considered as an exercise for intermediate bumps.

I agree with you at 47" his balance is inside so he lost his outside skis a bit.
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舊 2011-04-30, 12:41 AM   #4
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Let him go! Otherwise, we will lose something very important.
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舊 2011-04-30, 12:55 AM   #5
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[quote=lelo;12607](代 norman 發文)


我個人比較喜歡像這樣開放式的滑法,也比較輕鬆,看起來也比較優美又悠閒多了,像那種彎腰太多,蹲得太低,讓人覺得真的滑起來太辛苦,所以技術好也可以不用蹲那麼低,上半身一樣可以自然站好,這優美的滑法也是我一直的目標囉,但也別認為這種技術級數很低,沒學會是很難體會其中的深奧的,能延伸的動作可就多了,不過多了那部份都太費力了,出國滑雪是度假,不是把自己操倒。

今天特地剪這段動作影片,讓大家享受一下另一種滑法風格,不要只局限在自己的小小世界,除了自己所學就去說他人的東西是垃圾(曾有人只看了一遍他的教學書就直接這麼說)。

You are partly right and parly wrong. Once, you got to more speed, you need to do bend more . It's a bit tiring but the situation call for it.

Standing like him is more relaxing and is good once we got tired but not good for quick turning with speed or ski fast on the steep.

His skiing is more for intermediate skier, not like the other idot if your Bernd Greber.

How you like to ski is your choice but skiing like Bernd Greber is considered super high end skiing but skiing like Martin Heckelman can only be considered as low advance level although he control well in his speed.

For myself, I can't ski like Bernd Greber but also don't want to ski like Martin Heckelman.

此篇文章於 2011-04-30 12:58 AM 被 pku 編輯。
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舊 2011-04-30, 04:58 AM   #6
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Norman - sorry that I am going hurt your feeling again.

If the skier in red is your idol, now everything makes sense to me about your skiing like a moving statue. His skiing won't even be able to pass our PSIA L2 standard.
Do you know why your trainer said you are not going to pass your L2? Poor MA reflects a poor skiing technique, experience, and knowledge, but mostly, lack of professionalism. I see his skiing, fluid, stable, and dynamic, better than some of your PSIA L3s.

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To compare his mogul skiing with pku's, pku is 10 times better than Heckelman.
No ways, don't think that pku can keep up with him on the moguls, and so is the rest of his/pku's skiing compare to him.

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A freindly suggestion to you - not to waste your time and money on this Heckelman stuff. Otherwise, you will at most ski like him - looking good to novie but actually a joke to professional one.
I think you are too emotional and lose your objective; here's where you lose your professionalism, as comment as such "looking good to novie but actually a joke to professional one" from a professional only makes the professional looks like a joke. "looking good to movie" is quite good already [to the western standards], why it is a "joke"? Given your PSIA L1 "coach" title, do you know the difference between "instructing" and "coaching"? after you.

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Note that at 47", Heckelman almost lost his balance on a bump because his CM did not catch up with his feet.
You are nick-picking.

:)
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舊 2011-04-30, 06:08 AM   #7
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Do you know why your trainer said you are not going to pass your L2? Poor MA reflects a poor skiing technique, experience, and knowledge, but mostly, lack of professionalism. I see his skiing, fluid, stable, and dynamic, better than some of your PSIA L3s.



No ways, don't think that pku can keep up with him on the moguls, and so is the rest of his/pku's skiing compare to him.



I think you are too emotional and lose your objective; here's where you lose your professionalism, as comment as such "looking good to novie but actually a joke to professional one" from a professional only makes the professional looks like a joke. "looking good to movie" is quite good already [to the western standards], why it is a "joke"? Given your PSIA L1 "coach" title, do you know the difference between "instructing" and "coaching"? after you.



You are nick-picking.

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First of all, you have no clue how a person can pass PSIA level 2. Your PSIA L4 ifriend is a joke

Second, for sure I won't pass the PSIA L2 since I won't take it. But if you pay for it, then I'll reconsider.

Martin's demo on bumps is not good for modern skiing, you need to update your high end skiing knowledge.
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舊 2011-04-30, 07:56 AM   #8
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First of all, you have no clue how a person can pass PSIA level 2. Your PSIA L4 ifriend is a joke
I think so, the criteria for passing is posted on the web, isn't it? And the organization/certification process of PSIA is pretty much patterned after DOE, Department of Education's K12 teaching certificates. And you cannot take L2 exam if you don't have L1 cert.

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Second, for sure I won't pass the PSIA L2 since I won't take it. But if you pay for it, then I'll reconsider.
At your current understanding and practice, even you take it, you won't pass.

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Martin's demo on bumps is not good for modern skiing, you need to update your high end skiing knowledge.
That's only your terminal L2 speculation; here's a your CSIA L3's perform,

YouTube - Level 3 standards



comparing to Martin's, are they really much deifference?

YouTube - Martin Heckelman動作影片



Ok, terminal L2, what's the difference?

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舊 2011-04-30, 10:03 AM   #9
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I think so, the criteria for passing is posted on the web, isn't it? And the organization/certification process of PSIA is pretty much patterned after DOE, Department of Education's K12 teaching certificates. And you cannot take L2 exam if you don't have L1 cert.



At your current understanding and practice, even you take it, you won't pass.



That's only your terminal L2 speculation; here's a your CSIA L3's perform,

YouTube - Level 3 standards


comparing to Martin's, are they really much deifference?

YouTube - Martin Heckelman動作影片


Ok, terminal L2, what's the difference?

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IS
Everyone know you bad mouth here so whatever you call me doesn't really matter.


The difference is so obvious anybody can tell.

It is so obviously Martin got his outside ski slip out especially in the fast big turns. since he got a wide stance, it's more obvious than you did. He got this thing happen on his short turns but just not as bad.

The CSIA guy turns are much rounder, less skiding. That's is partly due to the difference between the skis and partly because of the higher skiing technique of the CSIA guy.

The CSIA guy is a CSIA L4 and at least is a L3 course condutor. He is not CSIA L3 and 98% CSIA L3 can't ski like he did.
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舊 2011-04-30, 06:48 PM   #10
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Norman - sorry that I am going hurt your feeling again.

If the skier in red is your idol, now everything makes sense to me about your skiing like a moving statue. His skiing won't even be able to pass our PSIA L2 standard.

To compare his mogul skiing with pku's, pku is 10 times better than Heckelman.

A freindly suggestion to you - not to waste your time and money on this Heckelman stuff. Otherwise, you will at most ski like him - looking good to novie but actually a joke to professional one.

Note that at 47", Heckelman almost lost his balance on a bump because his CM did not catch up with his feet.
我一點都不在乎你對Martin Heckelman動作影片的看法,所以何傷之有?

等你考上PSIA L3再來評斷吧,眼力跟技術是對等,知識跟技術是不對等的,就算你看了再多的影片或教學書,你的技術無法提升眼力,所以你看不懂這之間的差別,所以你這說法拿去請教真正的高手是會笑死人的。

等你能滑出及拍出PSIA L3的影片再來說吧。
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舊 2011-04-30, 06:49 PM   #11
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You are partly right and parly wrong. Once, you got to more speed, you need to do bend more . It's a bit tiring but the situation call for it.

Standing like him is more relaxing and is good once we got tired but not good for quick turning with speed or ski fast on the steep.

His skiing is more for intermediate skier, not like the other idot if your Bernd Greber.

How you like to ski is your choice but skiing like Bernd Greber is considered super high end skiing but skiing like Martin Heckelman can only be considered as low advance level although he control well in his speed.

For myself, I can't ski like Bernd Greber but also don't want to ski like Martin Heckelman.
雖說彎腰太多及蹲太低,跟速度有關,但依你現在的速度來講,根本不需要彎及蹲這麼多,這點你並不能明白。

彎腰較多及蹲低一點,對重心穩定度提高有幫助,也能加快你重心轉移,但這只是一個動作對穩定度的解決方法,無法使技術真正實質提升,技術提升方法不在於彎腰較多及蹲低一點之上。

我能分辨出CSIA L3跟L4的差別在哪裏,你未達到,你確定能看出L3跟Martin Heckelman動作影片的不同特質重點在哪嗎?我覺得你無法真正區分出真正的差異在哪裏。

我相信換作是Bernd Greber本人來看Martin Heckelman的動作,他也不會像你們給出那樣的評語。

技術未能做出來,是不可能看得懂的,我確實是感同身受,這是不同高度所使然,等你考上L4或是能滑出你們CSIA L4示範的動作要求影片再說吧。

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舊 2011-04-30, 10:01 PM   #12
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雖說彎腰太多及蹲太低,跟速度有關,但依你現在的速度來講,根本不需要彎及蹲這麼多,這點你並不能明白。

彎腰較多及蹲低一點,對重心穩定度提高有幫助,也能加快你重心轉移,但這只是一個動作對穩定度的解決方法,無法使技術真正實質提升,技術提升方法不在於彎腰較多及蹲低一點之上。

我能分辨出CSIA L3跟L4的差別在哪裏,你未達到,你確定能看出L3跟Martin Heckelman動作影片的不同特質重點在哪嗎?我覺得你無法真正區分出真正的差異在哪裏。

我相信換作是Bernd Greber本人來看Martin Heckelman的動作,他也不會像你們給出那樣的評語。

技術未能做出來,是不可能看得懂的,我確實是感同身受,這是不同高度所使然,等你考上L4或是能滑出你們CSIA L4示範的動作要求影片再說吧。


大師 大師 大師

My skiing level will never be as strong as you on the net world. As long as you don't ski on the slope, you are the 2 of the best skiers on the here. Of course there must be some more in the net world.

You don't need to ask for Berd Greber's opinion since he died already.

Since you can't make any short turns on the bumps, then how can you see the difference between the L4 and Martin

Since you just came back, I won't be too hard on you.
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Everyone know you bad mouth here so whatever you call me doesn't really matter.
So you think you wrongly accuse me "bad mouth" you, so you can pretend what I've said is not true, so you can overlook your own shortfalls? Shrewd. Nevertheless, 自欺欺人, on the 'net, your mind can go anywhere but arrive nowhere, that's why "terminal."

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The difference is so obvious anybody can tell.

It is so obviously Martin got his outside ski slip out especially in the fast big turns. since he got a wide stance, it's more obvious than you did. He got this thing happen on his short turns but just not as bad.

The CSIA guy turns are much rounder, less skiding. That's is partly due to the difference between the skis and partly because of the higher skiing technique of the CSIA guy.
While they both can do pretty much each other's skiing, and have pretty much the "same" performance, but you think that a little rounder turns make you CSIA guy ski better? 小知小見. Why not because that CSIA guy has the better and newer "skis"? As the Martin guy used the inferior skis to do the "same" performance, doesn't that mean he skied better?

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The CSIA guy is a CSIA L4 and at least is a L3 course condutor. He is not CSIA L3 and 98% CSIA L3 can't ski like he did.
Oops, each time you 狡辯, you put yourself into worse condition; the clip is saying it is the L3 "standards," and you say that "98% CSIA L3 can't ski like he did," but you don't think the Martin guy meets L2 standard? So, you just say anything to boost you own imagine, eh? The question is, when a person/client like Martin comes to your teaching session what can you teach him? So, the same question to snowrider to you, what's the difference between "instructing" and "coaching"?

:)
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So you think you wrongly accuse me "bad mouth" you, so you can pretend what I've said is not true, so you can overlook your own shortfalls? Shrewd. Nevertheless, 自欺欺人, on the 'net, your mind can go anywhere but arrive nowhere, that's why "terminal."



While they both can do pretty much each other's skiing, and have pretty much the "same" performance, but you think that a little rounder turns make you CSIA guy ski better? 小知小見. Why not because that CSIA guy has the better and newer "skis"? As the Martin guy used the inferior skis to do the "same" performance, doesn't that mean he skied better?



Oops, each time you 狡辯, you put yourself into worse condition; the clip is saying it is the L3 "standards," and you say that "98% CSIA L3 can't ski like he did," but you don't think the Martin guy meets L2 standard? So, you just say anything to boost you own imagine, eh? The question is, when a person/client like Martin comes to your teaching session what can you teach him? So, the same question to snowrider to you, what's the difference between "instructing" and "coaching"?

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You need to see more CSIA instructors skiing. Whistler got more than thousand

As I reply to Norman, already said that the better skiing of The CSIA guy is because partly of the new equipment, Martin.s outside skis always slip out especially on Big turns.

You ask me instrucing and coaching, then you should know what's CSIA and CSCF first. You are only a lonely old man skiing by yourself all the time, you don't have any knowledge beside boosting your highend skiing. Small Canadian dollar, what a naive old man

At least do more reserch on the net, don't spend so mcuh time to bad mouth people once they don't agree with you.

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我一點都不在乎你對Martin Heckelman動作影片的看法,所以何傷之有?

等你考上PSIA L3再來評斷吧,眼力跟技術是對等,知識跟技術是不對等的,就算你看了再多的影片或教學書,你的技術無法提升眼力,所以你看不懂這之間的差別,所以你這說法拿去請教真正的高手是會笑死人的。

等你能滑出及拍出PSIA L3的影片再來說吧。
You ask other's to achieve higher level to comment but you ski like shit but comment others skiing 10 times better than you.

may be you need to watch your shiity skiing one more time

YouTube - 黑線饅頭

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珍藏的其中一小片段

我以前說的有另兩段珍藏的,我主要學習是看這三段,其中1段bernd的饅頭影片大家已看過了,另外兩段,一段是大彎,一段是小彎,當初答應不能公開撥放,但可私下分享,主要應該是擔心我亂講或是看得人誤解其中的意思,因為這畢竟是很久的舊片了,至今現代的技術已有些不同,其他的解釋就不方便講了。

大彎不適合放出,小彎可以,所以我只選比較不要緊的剪輯放出來,應該沒關係吧?這動作也是我今年才發現真正總算看懂了。

不過我可以很殘忍的說,這小彎沒真正會這動作是不可能看懂的,所以看看就好,還是去學自己的系統較穩當。

YouTube - bernd




另外我多加放一段CSIA的影片,下面這兩段的動作是有差別的,其中只有一段的動作是L4才會有的動作,如果分得出差別就算你厲害囉。

YouTube - parallelPolePlant

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舊 2011-05-01, 08:53 PM   #17
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You ask other's to achieve higher level to comment but you ski like shit but comment others skiing 10 times better than you.

may be you need to watch your shiity skiing one more time
就說你看不懂我影片中的動作,雖隔幾年後的第一次拍饅頭,但這動作這次特別練出後的價值性可比你的動作還有價值多了,雖還不熟練,還沒完全抓到點,但整個流程的正確性已算高了,只要再練六天以上的饅頭,就能明顯看出這動作的價值性如何了。

不過我還是不認為你看得出來,我放的Martin Heckelman動作影片除了白色衣服那位的動作要等我練9天以上我才有把握滑出這麼快,而Martin Heckelman示範的饅頭動作皆可滑得出來,包括鬆雪也沒問題,事實上裏面含那個high energy的動作,我在第四天也一樣有練出來了,我可以在綠線8度坡以下還能側傾到能摸到雪面,所以只差熟練度而已,動作正確就是進步那麼快囉。

講了你也不會懂,等我下次再滑6天後再拍出來的動作,也許你可能會懂吧?只是懂我說的動作是有價值卻不明白為何會有價值。

話說回來,你看得懂Martin Heckelman動作影片中的0:56~1:32秒中的動作嗎?如果我只剪這一段給大家看,這饅頭滑得這麼饅豈不是代表他功力很爛?所以我才剪他的學生的饅頭影片(水藍色衣服那位),你自認比他的學生厲害嗎?

問題就是在Martin Heckelman故意做很慢的示範動作,用心良苦,卻被看不懂的人嫌,一樣的道理囉,做慢都看不懂了,做快就能看得懂嗎?真不懂其價值呀。
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You need to see more CSIA instructors skiing. Whistler got more than thousand
Why? You've already said that 98% of L3 cannot ski like him, what the rest of the thousands can do?

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As I reply to Norman, already said that the better skiing of The CSIA guy is because partly of the new equipment, Martin.s outside skis always slip out especially on Big turns.
Not how I see it, care to point out where he made the "big turn" and where he "slipped" out? But mostly, that's only your "standard" excuse to deny a good skiing, as you have used the "same" tactic describing my skiing; nevertheless, I do know how I ski. My unanswered rebuttals have reflected your little knowledge's shameless denial.

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You ask me instrucing and coaching, then you should know what's CSIA and CSCF first.
No, "instrucing and coaching" are standard practice to the western "pro" sport world, not just pertaining to your CSIA and CSCF organizations, terminal L2. nevertheless, let's hear it, you are the CSIA and CSCF guy, you tell us, what's your certificate says, "ski instrctor," or "ski coach"?

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You are only a lonely old man skiing by yourself all the time, you don't have any knowledge beside boosting your highend skiing. Small Canadian dollar, what a naive old man
With all those garbages in your mind, no wonder you're stuck at terminal L2; no, those garbages are not the crieria for good skiing.

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At least do more reserch on the net, don't spend so mcuh time to bad mouth people once they don't agree with you.
You are talking about yourself; of course, in your denial, you cannot see your own faults, so you cannot learn to correct them, so you're stuck like a broken record, on and on and on... retarded or what?

:)
IS
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Why? You've already said that 98% of L3 cannot ski like him, what the rest of the thousands can do?



Not how I see it, care to point out where he made the "big turn" and where he "slipped" out? But mostly, that's only your "standard" excuse to deny a good skiing, as you have used the "same" tactic describing my skiing; nevertheless, I do know how I ski. My unanswered rebuttals have reflected your little knowledge's shameless denial.



No, "instrucing and coaching" are standard practice to the western "pro" sport world, not just pertaining to your CSIA and CSCF organizations, terminal L2. nevertheless, let's hear it, you are the CSIA and CSCF guy, you tell us, what's your certificate says, "ski instrctor," or "ski coach"?



With all those garbages in your mind, no wonder you're stuck at terminal L2; no, those garbages are not the crieria for good skiing.



You are talking about yourself; of course, in your denial, you cannot see your own faults, so you cannot learn to correct them, so you're stuck like a broken record, on and on and on... retarded or what?

:)
IS
Whistler got the most CSIA L 4 in Canada

Tiger Woods has a coach not an instructor.

Martin skising is not bad, but not really special, Most CSIA L 4 can ski better than him.

You don't even got any certification, a terminal L2 is still mcuh higher than you get nothing.

You only can boost your skiing by your own created system.
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珍藏的其中一小片段

我以前說的有另兩段珍藏的,我主要學習是看這三段,其中1段bernd的饅頭影片大家已看過了,另外兩段,一段是大彎,一段是小彎,當初答應不能公開撥放,但可私下分享,主要應該是擔心我亂講或是看得人誤解其中的意思,因為這畢竟是很久的舊片了,至今現代的技術已有些不同,其他的解釋就不方便講了。

大彎不適合放出,小彎可以,所以我只選比較不要緊的剪輯放出來,應該沒關係吧?這動作也是我今年才發現真正總算看懂了。

不過我可以很殘忍的說,這小彎沒真正會這動作是不可能看懂的,所以看看就好,還是去學自己的系統較穩當。

YouTube - bernd



另外我多加放一段CSIA的影片,下面這兩段的動作是有差別的,其中只有一段的動作是L4才會有的動作,如果分得出差別就算你厲害囉。

YouTube - parallelPolePlant
Don't just boost how much you understand. The most importanat thing is when you can do it. I'll bet you'll never do it.
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