Flatboarding vs. Skiing

管他是好咖還是怪咖,只要是咖就能發言,有任何技術問題,在此討論就對啦。

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#1 Flatboarding vs. Skiing

文章 taichiskiing » 週四 1月 08, 2015 2:07 am

Ever since its debuted some ten+ years ago, people are still perplexed about the name “Flatboarding” for a “skiing style,”a term appears to be more relate to the snowboarding than skiing. I was perplexed too, maybe I made a mistake when I named it? Maybe I should name it “Flatskiing” instead of “Flatboarding”? Nevertheless, I did go back to find out the facts and the answer.

“Flatboarding”is a term I borrowed from my way of riding the snowboard—“press the flat base, the board runs straight, and press on the edges, the board turns [to edging side]—hence developed the “Flatboarding Theory”. Nevertheless, why call it“Flatboarding”for skiing?

In the US/North America, sliding on skis is called “skiing,” but slide on snowboards is called “riding”not “skiing,”why is that? Given that English is a partitioned language, everything needs its unique/different definition, “skiing a snowboard” is no-no, they need another name for it, but why “riding”?

In skiing, skiers have two skis, so they move their feet to control, maneuver, and balance, so to ski and to balance they move their feet first, and that's the essence of “skiing.”However, snowboarders don't have such luxury for independence leg movements as their two feet are bounded to the snowboard, they can only move their butts to control, maneuver, and balance their snowboards; the way they do it/snowboarding is like sitting on an invisible seat, hence “riding.”

太極單板/Taichi Snowboarding - YouTube



Flatboarding on skis is to “ride” the skis; it moves the weight/butt first, instead of feet, so “Flatboarding” is more appropriate than “Flatskiing.”

Whitecrane Taichi Skiing: Olympicdownhill, Heavenly, TTB - YouTube



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文章 pku » 週四 1月 08, 2015 3:13 am

taichiskiing 寫:Ever since its debuted some ten+ years ago, people are still perplexed about the name “Flatboarding” for a “skiing style,”a term appears to be more relate to the snowboarding than skiing. I was perplexed too, maybe I made a mistake when I named it? Maybe I should name it “Flatskiing” instead of “Flatboarding”? Nevertheless, I did go back to find out the facts and the answer.

“Flatboarding”is a term I borrowed from my way of riding the snowboard—“press the flat base, the board runs straight, and press on the edges, the board turns [to edging side]—hence developed the “Flatboarding Theory”. Nevertheless, why call it“Flatboarding”for skiing?

In the US/North America, sliding on skis is called “skiing,” but slide on snowboards is called “riding”not “skiing,”why is that? Given that English is a partitioned language, everything needs its unique/different definition, “skiing a snowboard” is no-no, they need another name for it, but why “riding”?

In skiing, skiers have two skis, so they move their feet to control, maneuver, and balance, so to ski and to balance they move their feet first, and that's the essence of “skiing.”However, snowboarders don't have such luxury for independence leg movements as their two feet are bounded to the snowboard, they can only move their butts to control, maneuver, and balance their snowboards; the way they do it/snowboarding is like sitting on an invisible seat, hence “riding.”

太極單板/Taichi Snowboarding - YouTube


Flatboarding on skis is to “ride” the skis; it moves the weight/butt first, instead of feet, so “Flatboarding” is more appropriate than “Flatskiing.”

Whitecrane Taichi Skiing: Olympicdownhill, Heavenly, TTB - YouTube


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I think it's not about the term you use. It's the way you do is not considered good by people.

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文章 taichiskiing » 週四 1月 08, 2015 5:32 am

pku 寫:I think it's not about the term you use. It's the way you do is not considered good by people.
Or “people” cannot tell what's good from bad? Especially for the people who cannot really “read” the videos.

Whitecrane Taichi Skiing: Orion, Heavenly, TTB - YouTube



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文章 pku » 週四 1月 08, 2015 1:29 pm

taichiskiing 寫:Or “people” cannot tell what's good from bad? Especially for the people who cannot really “read” the videos.

Whitecrane Taichi Skiing: Orion, Heavenly, TTB - YouTube


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So you post this in the wrong place. You should post it on planet that there is no people.

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文章 pku » 週四 1月 08, 2015 1:46 pm

taichiskiing 寫:Or “people” cannot tell what's good from bad? Especially for the people who cannot really “read” the videos.

Whitecrane Taichi Skiing: Orion, Heavenly, TTB - YouTube


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We consider the following good skiing,

You can see the comments there by other people. Nothing to do with me.



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文章 taichiskiing » 週四 1月 08, 2015 8:39 pm

pku 寫:So you post this in the wrong place. You should post it on planet that there is no people.
And you have to choose to be a “non-people” to perpetuate your shameless denial? That's pretty pathetic prospect for a CSIA L2, too bad.

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文章 taichiskiing » 週四 1月 08, 2015 8:41 pm

pku 寫:We consider the following good skiing,
What are they “good”about? Can you do it? No, they ski too hard, and I like this one better, more technical.

Heavenly skiing: TTB, Olympic to Boulder, Heavenly - YouTube


You can see the comments there by other people. Nothing to do with me.
Of course, “Nothing to do with you,” they may be good, but they are way way out of your leaque.





Can they do mine?

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: Short Spoke gully, Kirkwood - YouTube



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文章 pku » 週四 1月 08, 2015 10:22 pm

taichiskiing 寫:And you have to choose to be a “non-people” to perpetuate your shameless denial? That's pretty pathetic prospect for a CSIA L2, too bad.

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沒有鏡你可用你自己的尿照照,你的片放在YouTube , 有沒有 comment 說好

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文章 pku » 週四 1月 08, 2015 10:34 pm

taichiskiing 寫:What are they “good”about? Can you do it? No, they ski too hard, and I like this one better, more technical.

Heavenly skiing: TTB, Olympic to Boulder, Heavenly - YouTube




Of course, “Nothing to do with you,” they may be good, but they are way way out of your leaque.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZkDeYmuNJU


Can they do mine?

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: Short Spoke gully, Kirkwood - YouTube


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CSIA performance team member, 我講何謂滑得好,拿自己會的高手出來,合情合理

我經常照鏡子所以不會整天拿我的片出來。

這片又有powder,有bumps. 有陡,有石,當然也有在groom ,他在陡的地方,也可輕易易擧轉短彎

你的片硬要給人家看,你想看他詳細的片是要付錢。

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文章 taichiskiing » 週五 1月 09, 2015 12:07 am

pku 寫:沒有鏡你可用你自己的尿照照,你的片放在YouTube , 有沒有 comment 說好
原來你CSIA L2看不見自己,用“自己的尿照照”?我沒有這種本領‧給你一點指示,看自己的影子文雅、實用多了‧

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: the flight of a shadow, Orion, Heavenly - YouTube



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文章 taichiskiing » 週五 1月 09, 2015 12:13 am

pku 寫:CSIA performance team member, 我講何謂滑得好,拿自己會的高手出來,合情合理
Not if you cannot define, describe, or duplicate their moves/techniques. “Something borrowed” is nothing to brag about.
我經常照鏡子所以不會整天拿我的片出來。
I rather watch myself in “action” clips than watch myself in a mirror. Yes, I seldom watch myself in a mirror.
這片又有powder,有bumps. 有陡,有石,當然也有在groom ,他在陡的地方,也可輕易易擧轉短彎

你的片硬要給人家看,你想看他詳細的片是要付錢。
When they can do what I do, I may take a look on what they can do, spending money for it? No way.

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: Short Spoke gully, Kirkwood - YouTube



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文章 pku » 週五 1月 09, 2015 1:21 am

taichiskiing 寫:原來你CSIA L2看不見自己,用“自己的尿照照”?我沒有這種本領‧給你一點指示,看自己的影子文雅、實用多了‧

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: the flight of a shadow, Orion, Heavenly - YouTube


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你如果知道你滑得様衰,就不會不停放你自己的片出來,你真是滑得好様衰,天天滑也滑得這様,真丟人。弱慢在綠缐滑出來也不比你差人家才滑了幾十天 :face (50):

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文章 pku » 週五 1月 09, 2015 1:27 am

taichiskiing 寫:Not if you cannot define, describe, or duplicate their moves/techniques. “Something borrowed” is nothing to brag about.



I rather watch myself in “action” clips than watch myself in a mirror. Yes, I seldom watch myself in a mirror.



When they can do what I do, I may take a look on what they can do, spending money for it? No way.

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: Short Spoke gully, Kirkwood - YouTube


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像你的 low end 滑雪,他這樣滑岀來那有人會買他賣的片,人家 good comments 大堆,用用腦袋

你放的片那有人會看,就算看,看完也破囗大罵
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文章 taichiskiing » 週五 1月 09, 2015 9:02 am

pku 寫:你如果知道你滑得様衰,就不會不停放你自己的片出來,你真是滑得好様衰,天天滑也滑得這様,真丟人。弱慢在綠缐滑出來也不比你差人家才滑了幾十天 :face (50):
“你如果知道你的知識、眼光那様衰,就不會不停跟在我後面發言,你的知識、眼光那麼“短淺”,身為CSIA L2還“不能”滑“半管溝”,那才是“真丟人””‧

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: Short Spoke gully, Kirkwood - YouTube



“天天滑也滑得這様”,很好‧你就是“天天滑”也滑不到“這様”‧弱慢就不用提了,他一輩子也滑不到“這様”‧

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: Maggie's Canyon, the gully, Heavenly - YouTube



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文章 taichiskiing » 週五 1月 09, 2015 9:06 am

pku 寫:像你的 low end 滑雪,他這樣滑岀來那有人會買他賣的片,人家 good comments 大堆,用用腦袋

你放的片那有人會看,就算看,看完也破囗大罵
對,你們小知、小技、小人不“破囗大罵”,我的高級滑雪不是“真”的‧

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: Shadow skiing Orion, Heavenly - YouTube



Can you tell when did I do “spinning”?“用用腦袋”,and we will see how good your“腦袋”is.

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文章 norman » 週五 1月 09, 2015 9:19 am

taichiskiing 寫:對,你們小知、小技、小人不“破囗大罵”,我的高級滑雪不是“真”的‧

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: Shadow skiing Orion, Heavenly - YouTube


Can you tell when did I do “spinning”?“用用腦袋”,and we will see how good your“腦袋”is.

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02:18應該嚇到人了吧?還是自己嚇到了?在綠線用慢速度轉圈圈。

我在幾年前看到一位只滑十幾天就拍了一段在綠線上自己轉圓圈玩的動作,不知你跟他兩者的動作有何差別?

補上影片。


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目前總滑天數80天。繼續累積中...我想滑雪。 :face (292): :face (292): :face (292):

滑雪人

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文章 pku » 週五 1月 09, 2015 10:20 am

taichiskiing 寫:對,你們小知、小技、小人不“破囗大罵”,我的高級滑雪不是“真”的‧

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: Shadow skiing Orion, Heavenly - YouTube


Can you tell when did I do “spinning”?“用用腦袋”,and we will see how good your“腦袋”is.

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Norman 已經把重點指岀,你的腦袋出,了很大問題

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文章 pku » 週五 1月 09, 2015 10:26 am

taichiskiing 寫:“你如果知道你的知識、眼光那様衰,就不會不停跟在我後面發言,你的知識、眼光那麼“短淺”,身為CSIA L2還“不能”滑“半管溝”,那才是“真丟人””‧

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: Short Spoke gully, Kirkwood - YouTube


“天天滑也滑得這様”,很好‧你就是“天天滑”也滑不到“這様”‧弱慢就不用提了,他一輩子也滑不到“這様”‧

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: Maggie's Canyon, the gully, Heavenly - YouTube


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其實也不明白你那麼多年,貼片出來,不是給人恥笑,便是給人駡,何苦,

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文章 taichiskiing » 週五 1月 09, 2015 11:38 pm

norman 寫:02:18應該嚇到人了吧?還是自己嚇到了?在綠線用慢速度轉圈圈。

我在幾年前看到一位只滑十幾天就拍了一段在綠線上自己轉圓圈玩的動作,不知你跟他兩者的動作有何差別?

補上影片。
不錯,他滑的比你流利、動態‧







差別?你看呢?

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: free skiing - YouTube



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文章 taichiskiing » 週五 1月 09, 2015 11:42 pm

pku 寫:Norman 已經把重點指岀,你的腦袋出,了很大問題
Norman's“腦袋”—“無恥鐵齒”,“瞽盲不視”—問題大了,但是Norman是滑雪界的“無名小足”,他的“無知”是可以諒解,而你身為CSIA L2,認同norman's見解表示你跟他是“等級”的‧我不是說過你們倆個不過「五十步與百步」之分?“爬的高,跌的重”,你“腦袋”的問題更大‧可以想像你“腦袋”裡只剩下一遍“無恥的辱罵”,你“人如其言”。

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