為什麼 wedge 不好? 有什麼不好?

[snowrider]

That is interesting and strange that Ader want you to "...加強練習 up-down 的動作，這樣轉彎更圓，就能控制速度了..."

The up-motion should be very little, and from ankle and knee joints and less upper body -- this is just to 'lighten' the skis making it easier to start the next turn. But it should not help you to control speed.

My suggestion is for you NOT to rush and pivot your skis quickly at the start of the turn. Give it time, and then slowly try to steer the ski across the hill and FINISH the turn -- that will slow you down. If you really steer the skis up the hill you can even come to a stop.

Yes, agreed. IMO, the up-down motion has nothing to do with making round turns. It's ironic that people are told to practice this dynamic movement when they are still low level skiers while this becomes a hurdle of moving to high level skiers. Practicing this is very good, but do not overdo it. The movement needs to be very subtle on a groomed.

[skier888]

lelo, 你有Essentials的書，DVD 嗎

[lelo]

lelo, 你有Essentials的書，DVD 嗎

我有很多書，找了一下這一本確實有，不過仔細看過的只有 R. Mark Elling 的那一本 All-Mountain Skier。

[skier888]

我有很多書，找了一下這一本確實有，不過仔細看過的只有 R. Mark Elling 的那一本 All-Mountain Skier。

我提是因爲 DVD 比較有簡單明瞭。Essentials 已經把東西分解了，去掉了不必需的動作，所以動作較簡單，容易自己實驗體會。你看書的話，了解比較難些。如果你認爲看得懂的話，可以參考裏面的圖片，可以自己面對鏡子練習，真正滑雪時會有幫助。以這當基礎，你可以用到CSIA 的學習上。 基本上 xSIA 會教 pivot 及 steering，這些與Essentials 學的混在一起的話，xSIA 會稱為 blending. 要不要blend是主觀的問題，就看你自己了

inline skate 缺的就是這個，不會有什麽幫助的

http://www.goski.com.tw/forum/showthread.php?t=643

[normanding]

inline skate 缺的就是這個，不會有什麽幫助的

http://www.goski.com.tw/forum/showthread.php?t=643

對，練直排輪不會有什麼幫助的。

lelo兄，你該認清事實了，這是有練過的人都這麼說的。

我相信今年你去滑時，會發現，第一件事就是雪板轉不動，第二件就是發現你壓邊後無法控制速度只好努力的剎車。

我也這麼覺得(這是指一般人的情況)。

[skier888]

對，練直排輪不會有什麼幫助的。

lelo兄，你該認清事實了，這是有練過的人都這麼說的。

我相信今年你去滑時，會發現，第一件事就是雪板轉不動，第二件就是發現你壓邊後無法控制速度只好努力的剎車。

我也這麼覺得(這是指一般人的情況)。

問題是你只會說，我也希望你能用你的滑雪技術證明壓

[normanding]

問題是你只會說，我也希望你能用你的滑雪技術證明壓

證明什麼？

我不認為你看得懂我第四天的動作，所以沒什麼好證明的。

今年有沒有比去年進步？只滑三天有進步就行了，比起一年滑了幾十天幾乎沒進步的好。

除非你是想看我什麼時候的哪一年才會停止進步的證明，只是你看不到這一天的。

[pku]

證明什麼？

我不認為你看得懂我第四天的動作，所以沒什麼好證明的。

今年有沒有比去年進步？只滑三天有進步就行了，比起一年滑了幾十天幾乎沒進步的好。

除非你是想看我什麼時候的哪一年才會停止進步的證明，只是你看不到這一天的。

But the thing is your progress is not even 1/10 of what you boost before your trip.

You don't see our progress is because your skiing experience is still very little.

You always said if one can do nicely on a gentle groomed, then one should ski well on everything, that's because you don't have much experience.

Why can't you ski the same look in the 2 videos, even on those easy ungroomed, you form is totally off

YouTube - 黑線饅頭


YouTube - 黑線小彎


You short turn only have the look. Your 3 joints doesn't really move much so you can't really control the presuure on bumps. You can't adjust your fore-after balance by quickly your foot so it's hard for you to balance on the ungroomed to make the timing right.

Get some more skiing and found a good coach.

[skier888]

證明什麼？

我不認為你看得懂我第四天的動作，所以沒什麼好證明的。

今年有沒有比去年進步？只滑三天有進步就行了，比起一年滑了幾十天幾乎沒進步的好。

除非你是想看我什麼時候的哪一年才會停止進步的證明，只是你看不到這一天的。

你滑的很爛，自己還不知道嗎

[normanding]

But the thing is your progress is not even 1/10 of what you boost before your trip.

You don't see our progress is because your skiing experience is still very little.

You always said if one can do nicely on a gentle groomed, then one should ski well on everything, that's because you don't have much experience.

Why can't you ski the same look in the 2 videos, even on those easy ungroomed, you form is totally off

YouTube - 黑線饅頭

YouTube - 黑線小彎

You short turn only have the look. Your 3 joints doesn't really move much so you can't really control the presuure on bumps. You can't adjust your fore-after balance by quickly your foot so it's hard for you to balance on the ungroomed to make the timing right.

Get some more skiing and found a good coach.

我講得很清楚，只是你看不懂我的動作。

這兩段影片第一段要像第二段這樣子，我最多只要6~10個滑雪天就夠了。

而6~10個滑雪天後，第二段的動作會更漂亮。

我的方法是越後面，進步越快，所以我不擔心你說的問題。

[lelo]

對，練直排輪不會有什麼幫助的。
lelo兄，你該認清事實了，這是有練過的人都這麼說的。
我相信今年你去滑時，會發現，第一件事就是雪板轉不動，

這一點我知道啊！我比你先去日本滑雪的，記得吧？我不知道這點的話，那你認為我在日本七天是怎麼滑的？

第二件就是發現你壓邊後無法控制速度只好努力的剎車。
我也這麼覺得(這是指一般人的情況)。

這個速度是相對的，你那一天參加逛山團跟大家滑一滑就知道了 ....

[snowrider]

我講得很清楚，只是你看不懂我的動作。

這兩段影片第一段要像第二段這樣子，我最多只要6~10個滑雪天就夠了。

而6~10個滑雪天後，第二段的動作會更漂亮。

我的方法是越後面，進步越快，所以我不擔心你說的問題。

This 若置 guy really thinks himself as a genius.

[lelo]

我提是因爲 DVD 比較有簡單明瞭。Essentials 已經把東西分解了，去掉了不必需的動作，所以動作較簡單，容易自己實驗體會。你看書的話，了解比較難些。如果你認爲看得懂的話，可以參考裏面的圖片，可以自己面對鏡子練習，真正滑雪時會有幫助。以這當基礎，你可以用到CSIA 的學習上。 基本上 xSIA 會教 pivot 及 steering，這些與Essentials 學的混在一起的話，xSIA 會稱為 blending. 要不要blend是主觀的問題，就看你自己了

inline skate 缺的就是這個，不會有什麽幫助的

http://www.goski.com.tw/forum/showthread.php?t=643

我覺的直排輪還是頂有幫助的，只是必須以特定方法練習，你看人家也是用直排輪在練習
YouTube - roller downhill trainings www.olgarubinova.com



YouTube - Alpine Roller


另外關於我 knee 那個答案，我到那個討論串回 ....

[taichiskiing]

You are making people laugh. You should not be on those steep runs. You don't have the technique because all you do is travserse. You ruin the name of line-skiing. Why don't you use your energy to improve your skiing while there is still time. This will be non-augument next year if you ca improve. You can easily put in 30 more days to do this.

Guess your little knowledge doesn't shed the light for you. Where did you say you've spent "big money" to learn skiing from?

典型的小知小人，曉得勸人求學向善來表示自己是好人、有學問，而自己又不會也不學，所以勸人的目的也只是「估名釣譽」，「鄉愿」是也。

I know what is going to be your response. Please say something creative

Yup, we have been this block many many times already. You have never learned.

:)
IS

[pku]

我講得很清楚，只是你看不懂我的動作。

這兩段影片第一段要像第二段這樣子，我最多只要6~10個滑雪天就夠了。

而6~10個滑雪天後，第二段的動作會更漂亮。

我的方法是越後面，進步越快，所以我不擔心你說的問題。

ski 6-10 days can ski those easy ungroomed like that gentle groomed is very good progress but to be able to ski faster than my daughter is still not possible. As dicussed in the epic forum, you short turn on that pitch isstill pretty slow, only got the look.

Last season , there is no chance for my daughter to ski faster than you after 6 days of skiing, you spend 3 days and now 6-10 days.

One thing you find out, skiing is not as easy as you think. After 10 more days skiing, you'll find skiing is harder and harder.

Just don't go skiing then you don't need to face the reality.

See how Taichiskiing ski for 30 years, he still can't really make the link turns much especially on the steep.

[skier888]

Guess your little knowledge doesn't shed the light for you. Where did you say you've spent "big money" to learn skiing from?

典型的小知小人，曉得勸人求學向善來表示自己是好人、有學問，而自己又不會也不學，所以勸人的目的也只是「估名釣譽」，「鄉愿」是也。



Yup, we have been this block many many times already. You have never learned.

:)
IS

Money is relative. To you is big but to me may be nothing. Sure, I spend a lot money to places with form pit, air bag to be on the safety side. I guess you would rather pay medical bill. I spend money to improve progress because I don't want to waste time. Time is money to me too. I guess your time is free so you can can take your time to learn and still only ski easy runs after all the time you have spent on the hill

[normanding]

這個速度是相對的，你那一天參加逛山團跟大家滑一滑就知道了 ....

就說過了，日本的逛山團絕對不會歐洲團的快，就目前我去過的日本的雪場，還沒有我一天逛不完的。

近兩年我應該無法出門滑雪了，反正以後會有機會一起滑的。

[normanding]

ski 6-10 days can ski those easy ungroomed like that gentle groomed is very good progress but to be able to ski faster than my daughter is still not possible. As dicussed in the epic forum, you short turn on that pitch isstill pretty slow, only got the look.

Last season , there is no chance for my daughter to ski faster than you after 6 days of skiing, you spend 3 days and now 6-10 days.

One thing you find out, skiing is not as easy as you think. After 10 more days skiing, you'll find skiing is harder and harder.

Just don't go skiing then you don't need to face the reality.

See how Taichiskiing ski for 30 years, he still can't really make the link turns much especially on the steep.

這天數你也好意思這麼講？

我一開始就說連續練6天的饅頭，應該是沒有問題的，而我今年這次去滑雪3天半，也不過只滑3趟而已，這3趟還是分開在3天，1天各1趟，這樣也算3天喔？

你強呀！

我幹嘛沒事猛練饅頭？離我們以後有機會一起滑還久的很，我急著練好饅頭做什麼？

我練功是有先後順序的，哪像你們這樣子亂練。像我在拍你們認為只是小bump的地形，我是故意滑很慢的，要滑快的話，就沒有練習的效果了，這練習你不會了解的啦，看你的饅頭滑法我就知道了。

我額外好奇問個問題，她都快到底了，為何要橫越那麼多饅頭？從0:14~0:22秒，至少都越過三個饅頭才往下一個彎？不過說實在的，我覺得這段影片下饅頭的速度不算快。

YouTube - GIRL SKI DOWN STEEP BUMPS

[pku]

這天數你也好意思這麼講？

我一開始就說連續練6天的饅頭，應該是沒有問題的，而我今年這次去滑雪3天半，也不過只滑3趟而已，這3趟還是分開在3天，1天各1趟，這樣也算3天喔？

你強呀！

我幹嘛沒事猛練饅頭？離我們以後有機會一起滑還久的很，我急著練好饅頭做什麼？

我練功是有先後順序的，哪像你們這樣子亂練。像我在拍你們認為只是小bump的地形，我是故意滑很慢的，要滑快的話，就沒有練習的效果了，這練習你不會了解的啦，看你的饅頭滑法我就知道了。

我額外好奇問個問題，她都快到底了，為何要橫越那麼多饅頭？從0:14~0:22秒，至少都越過三個饅頭才往下一個彎？不過說實在的，我覺得這段影片下饅頭的速度不算快。



YouTube - GIRL SKI DOWN STEEP BUMPS

If you ski on that run, you need to turn and stop so even she need longer turns to control, she still be way faster than you.

Speed is relative, if she want to compete with mogulist, for sure she can't even be close but with you, you will be only half way when she arrived at the bottom. Stop take some rest and go take a lot of time.

Mogulist take less than a second to make a turn on steep moguls, I need way more than that but still hard for me to control but compare with recreational skier, my speed is not too bad.

[lelo]

就說過了，日本的逛山團絕對不會歐洲團的快，就目前我去過的日本的雪場，還沒有我一天逛不完的。

近兩年我應該無法出門滑雪了，反正以後會有機會一起滑的。

還是來看看啦！那麼多年過去了，大家都會進步，況且滑歐洲團的也會去日本滑的！當然要挑對團就是了 ...

直排輪我會繼續練，日本也還是會去滑喔！