TTB: Top To Bottom/滑全程

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TTB, "Top To Bottom," provides a basic "thrilling" of skiing, so it is a "basic" standard for high level skiing. So, based on this standard, one cannot claim to be a "high level" skier if one cannot do TTB. "Top to bottm" does imply "non-stop," can you match up?
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Heavenly skiing: TTB, Olympic to Boulder, Heavenly - YouTube



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I am sure he is a strong skier and its good to share the video but what make you stupid is you using this video as a standard of your "high level" skiing. He is just crusing on easy groom run all the way,he's not doing any high end skiing in this video. Of course you are actually boasting yourself because you are the video man.

The "question" was "can you match up?" I do, TTB,
Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: Carving - YouTube


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Thanks for admiring my retirement life, but no, you didn't answer the question, the question was how well my friend skis, and you should have told them right out your experience with him. Maybe you don't really know how well he skis as you didn't see his skiing much as we cannot really keep up with him that day, but that alone shows the fact that he is much better skier than you and me, you should have acknowledged that.

Gone skiing, :)
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At the beginning you said you are a high level skier because you can match up with your PSIA master. Then now you admit he ski much faster than you and the video already proof it . You are a so stupid liar.
妳吹牛吹到經常自己踢爆自己吹的牛。

[taichiskiing]

To be fair, DR did say Mike is very good from his experience. I got that.

So you were "twisting" his words to lip-serve your pathetic mutated ego.

I think sometimes people just want to read what they want to see,and oppose something simply because they want to oppose everything.

Yup, that's what I've called "gappers"—there's "gap" in their perception and thinking—in other words, they only lip-serve their mutated egos through lie and denial. Gappers cannot and will not see the truths.

People should pay more attention to context and logic. My orginal response is not even questioning Mike's skiing, it is toward your statement about "thrill". Your reponse is just typical you.

Confuse yourself to confuse others? Your question was typical you HCV,“自欺欺人，騙自己,”and you may not know what "thrill" is.

BTW, I can see what the thrill could be from your perspective, but not for the reason you think.

Every uninterrupted skiing generates "thrill," and that's what we ski for. Uninterrupted skiing generates "speed," and "speed" generates "thrill," but if you cannot ski uninterruptedly, you cannot ski fast, and/or scare the hell out of yourself when you go fast, you will not feel the "thrill," that's why you cannot "see" the thrill, and that's why "You remain a 'terminal intermediate."

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[taichiskiing]

I like your retirement life also. I enjoy to watch your boring video. You call that high end skiing make it so stupid. I also thanks to you that you always open your dirty mouth so I can kick your ass.

“In your dream that is. Yup, when things get tough, slip back to the dream is an easy way out, but“賴驢打滾”cannot really kick anything, dream on.”

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[pku]

You short change yourself doesn't get my sympathy. In skiing, no one is the "best," so there are always some ones better and some ones worst than anyone, we are all in the "middle," and you don't know that? You are blinded by your own ego.



Asked you before but you didn't answer, what do you consider as "performance skiing"? and why? Or you just use these words to deny a good performance to boost your mutated ego?

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Performance skiing is to good edging skill that skis are deflected to turn . The product of good performance skiing is round turns and high speed leaving 2 pencil lines on the snow sometimes ( depends on the terain ). Most ski school system considered the term as the above

Freestyle mogul skiing is not considered performance skiing

[pku]

Yes, I already said that last time about how fast Coyote Mike he skied. Yes, he skied so fast that none of us was able to keep up with him! One more thing that surprised me was about his tree skiing. He was able to ski so fast in some narrow and bumpy line in trees without using poles - which I could not do it without poles to make sharp turns in trees. I apologize that I did not read every post (because you guys write so many fighting posts everyday).

He skis good ( relax and well balance ) but I don't think his skiing is performance skiing

[taichiskiing]

Performance skiing is to good edging skill that skis are deflected to turn . The product of good performance skiing is round turns and high speed leaving 2 pencil lines on the snow sometimes ( depends on the terain ). Most ski school system considered the term as the above

So you are talking about "pure carve"? or you don't see his "round turns" besides the PSIA drills?

Heavenly skiing: TTB, Olympic to Boulder, Heavenly - YouTube



Guess skier888 was right, "I think sometimes people just want to read what they want to see,and oppose something simply because they want to oppose everything."

Freestyle mogul skiing is not considered performance skiing

You have a narrow interpretation of "performance."

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[pku]

So you are talking about "pure carve"? or you don't see his "round turns" besides the PSIA drills?

Heavenly skiing: TTB, Olympic to Boulder, Heavenly - YouTube


Guess skier888 was right, "I think sometimes people just want to read what they want to see,and oppose something simply because they want to oppose everything."



You have a narrow interpretation of "performance."

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One foot skiing. Inside ski turn is not hard to do on easy slope

That's not my interpretation. Is the interpretation by most ski school system.

Like Richard Berger . He can get performance skiing almost everywhere so I considered him a ski god. If your friend is an ex PSIA clinician he should be able to show some performance，

CSIA L4 are all clinician but not all can have performance when snow get tough. Still a lot difference between individual.

[skier888]

B2L2 - Thanks for the info. I'll take a look.

This will be better option for you. I tried and deleted my earlier post few days ago before it becomes formal. Now here it is

http://www.themountaincollective.com/

This list is literally the best skiing in US and one from Canada

[snowrider]

skier888 - Thanks for this good information!!! I bot two MC passes just now!

This will be better option for you. I tried and deleted my earlier post few days ago before it becomes formal. Now here it is

http://www.themountaincollective.com/

This list is literally the best skiing in US and one from Canada

[taichiskiing]

One foot skiing. Inside ski turn is not hard to do on easy slope

Yet, you cannot do it? Typical little knowledge little technique "no big deal"/“沒什麼了不起,”“自抬身架”syndrome— 小知小技變相的“自以為了不起”‧One footed "drills" are not difficult, but one footed "skiing" is another story.

Advanced skiing: Wrong Edge Turns - YouTube

That's not my interpretation. Is the interpretation by most ski school system.

No, that IS your interpretation. The most common high level training in skiing I heard is though "drill is not skiing," but all [PSIA] instructors MUST demonstrate some degree of proficiency before they can pass their technical exams. Your CSIA may not teach drills, but that is not norm. "Drills" are part of most teaching system, do you know what drills are for?

Like Richard Berger . He can get performance skiing almost everywhere so I considered him a ski god. If your friend is an ex PSIA clinician he should be able to show some performance，

Have you ever skied with Richard Berger, or you just "name-dropping" a famous person? And no, you may consider him "your" ski god, but he "cannot" get "performance skiing" almost everywhere; "pure carve" on the groomed trails is easy, and one cannot "pure carve" on moguls nor most off-piste skiing.

I think that you “just want to read what you want to see, and oppose something simply because you want to oppose everything [I said, to pretend that you know better]." You are cheating yourself.

CSIA L4 are all clinician but not all can have performance when snow get tough. Still a lot difference between individual.

What are you saying? Your CSIA L4s are mediocre and you know better than them? You sounded like norman now. So, what is your example of "performance skiing"? can we see it?

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[B2L2]

Could you explain why your friend Mike is an "ex" PSIA clinician and not a current PSIA clinician anymore? In your eyes, what's missing in his skiing that he cannot be a current PSIA clinician? Or he just simply doesn't want to be an PSIA clinician anymore? In which particular years, he was an PSIA clinician?

At the beginning of this thread, TTB is a "basic" standard that you set. Is that still true?

[pku]

Yet, you cannot do it? Typical little knowledge little technique "no big deal"/“沒什麼了不起,”“自抬身架”syndrome— 小知小技變相的“自以為了不起”‧One footed "drills" are not difficult, but one footed "skiing" is another story.

Advanced skiing: Wrong Edge Turns - YouTube




No, that IS your interpretation. The most common high level training in skiing I heard is though "drill is not skiing," but all [PSIA] instructors MUST demonstrate some degree of proficiency before they can pass their technical exams. Your CSIA may not teach drills, but that is not norm. "Drills" are part of most teaching system, do you know what drills are for?



Have you ever skied with Richard Berger, or you just "name-dropping" a famous person? And no, you may consider him "your" ski god, but he "cannot" get "performance skiing" almost everywhere; "pure carve" on the groomed trails is easy, and one cannot "pure carve" on moguls nor most off-piste skiing.

I think that you “just want to read what you want to see, and oppose something simply because you want to oppose everything [I said, to pretend that you know better]." You are cheating yourself.



What are you saying? Your CSIA L4s are mediocre and you know better than them? You sounded like norman now. So, what is your example of "performance skiing"? can we see it?

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High Performance skiing

Super Slow Skiing - Shortturn - YouTube


CREAM of SKIING SKILLS - Sebastien Michel, JF Beaulieu and Giorgio Rocca - YouTube




Even on moguls

Super Slow Skiing - Mogul - YouTube


Technical Bumps Moguls Skiing - YouTube





Set the edges early and away from the body is one of the criteria of high performance skiing, these 2 pictures is captured from the video of Technical moguls skiing



There is so much high end skiing, extreme skiing, freestyle skiing on you tube. To share your video with people is fine 但是把你那種滑雪片吹成怎樣厲害，便是笑話。

[taichiskiing]

Could you explain why your friend Mike is an "ex" PSIA clinician and not a current PSIA clinician anymore? In your eyes, what's missing in his skiing that he cannot be a current PSIA clinician? Or he just simply doesn't want to be an PSIA clinician anymore? In which particular years, he was an PSIA clinician?

According to his story, he was a PSIA clinician, and yes, he didn't want to teach skiing/do clinic anymore as which cut into his free skiing time, so he quit, and retired from teaching skiing, but he is still enjoying giving tips. He has retired at least 8 years plus now (for what I know).

At the beginning of this thread, TTB is a "basic" standard that you set. Is that still true?

Well, I did write this very early on,“我的“會”的條件還是一樣，“一口氣不停,””yup, guess that TTB is my standard of “會”, and yes, that is still true.

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[taichiskiing]

High Performance skiing

Super Slow Skiing - Shortturn - YouTube

CREAM of SKIING SKILLS - Sebastien Michel, JF Beaulieu and Giorgio Rocca - YouTube



Even on moguls

Super Slow Skiing - Mogul - YouTube

Technical Bumps Moguls Skiing - YouTube




Set the edges early and away from the body is one of the criteria of high performance skiing, these 2 pictures is captured from the video of Technical moguls skiing



There is so much high end skiing, extreme skiing, freestyle skiing on you tube. To share your video with people is fine 但是把你那種滑雪片吹成怎樣厲害，便是笑話。

Good skiing, but I think that is way over your league, but guess I do understand what you mean by "High Performance skiing" now—forward, fast, and a lot of movements—which we old men called it "gun-ho"/“拚命三郎”—powerful like a fighter but not elegant enough to be a master. And no, we "recreational" skiers do not ski that hard; nevertheless, we do enjoy the "all-mountain"/tree skiing,

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: tree skiing, Sky Express trees, Heavenly - YouTube



see if they can follow us.

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[B2L2]

According to his story, he was a PSIA clinician, and yes, he didn't want to teach skiing/do clinic anymore as which cut into his free skiing time, so he quit, and retired from teaching skiing, but he is still enjoying giving tips. He has retired at least 8 years plus now (for what I know).

Well, I did write this very early on,“我的“會”的條件還是一樣，“一口氣不停,””yup, guess that TTB is my standard of “會”, and yes, that is still true.

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Since you didn't answer, could I assume that you "think" Mike is still capable to be a PSIA clinician if he wants to go back to do it? You kept saying that "according to his story", it makes you sound so unsure. Since you consider he is your friend, why wouldn't he tell you the true story? Or maybe you could go find out his true story.

You said TTB is a "basic" standard for high level skiing, so when PKU showed his data log, why you still have to question whether he could or could not? Why you need to ask for a video prove while you definition doesn't mentioned that you need to do any particular form of skiing. We post long video of us skiing before, if you care, you could go find them yourself.

Heavenly is a really top mountain plus Olympic to Boulder isn't really "Top"-to-"Bottom", or TTB just means TTB of a chair lift?

[taichiskiing]

Since you didn't answer, could I assume that you "think" Mike is still capable to be a PSIA clinician if he wants to go back to do it? You kept saying that "according to his story", it makes you sound so unsure. Since you consider he is your friend, why wouldn't he tell you the true story? Or maybe you could go find out his true story.

No, we don't do that kind of gossips around here, and I'm not even supposed to use his name, but snowrider blew it out, so he now has a name. Among these ex-racers and ex-coaches and ex-whatever old-timers, no one cares what your previous title was, so, if you don't tell [your story], no one would ask. And they only care if you know how to ski [physically], so no one would lie about their ranks, and there's no advantage to lie about your own abilities—when you ski everyone would know—the higher you boast, the harder you'll fall. So, I have no reasons to doubt what he said, and his skiing also confirmed it.

You said TTB is a "basic" standard for high level skiing, so when PKU showed his data log, why you still have to question whether he could or could not? Why you need to ask for a video prove while you definition doesn't mentioned that you need to do any particular form of skiing. We post long video of us skiing before, if you care, you could go find them yourself.

No, I didn't ask whether PKU could or could not do TTB but ask to see his ski TTB's performance; given that he is level 2 instructor, he should be able to do the TTB; nevertheless, how he perform (speed, form, and/or trainsition smooth or not, etc.,) will tell his ski level.

Heavenly is a really top mountain plus Olympic to Boulder isn't really "Top"-to-"Bottom", or TTB just means TTB of a chair lift?

TTB is a generic term, as we usually ski in a ski resort, so it usually means the highest lift to the bottom/parking lot level, in "one breath," which means "non-stop," or something like that. And you were right, "no particular form" specified. The following clip is one of typical TTB run,

Heavenly skiing: TTB, Olympicdownhill, Heavenly - YouTube



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[B2L2]

And honestly nobody really cares about his ex-title either. So maybe you could skip that part next time as well. It doesn't help anything since skiing skill could be declining for many reasons as well, e.g. age or adopted a different skiing style.

You haven't seen enough skiing video of PKU to judge his skiing level yet? Maybe you should go back and do a search. They are all over the places in this forum, long groom runs, short mogul runs, double black, you call it. Maybe after you go watch them all again, we could come back to "discuss" more.

[taichiskiing]

And honestly nobody really cares about his ex-title either. So maybe you could skip that part next time as well. It doesn't help anything since skiing skill could be declining for many reasons as well, e.g. age or adopted a different skiing style.

No, I didn't mention his title at all at beginning; it is you Whistler group insist to bring his title into the discussing/bashing. Nevertheless, the certification does represent certain level of skiing skills, and his videos have demonstrated that as well. All these “ex-racers, ex-coaches, or ex-whatever," though their physical conditions may be declining, but their techniques and skiing still better than you average/weekend skiers.

Heavenly skiing: Wolfgang and locals, Olympic Downhill, Heavenly - YouTube

You haven't seen enough skiing video of PKU to judge his skiing level yet? Maybe you should go back and do a search. They are all over the places in this forum, long groom runs, short mogul runs, double black, you call it. Maybe after you go watch them all again, we could come back to "discuss" more.

No, I don't have to see all of his videos to know how he ski—that's the skill called "Motion Analysis"/MA—and comparing to the "experts" videos he posted previously as "high performance skiing," his mogul videos are mediocre, (can't find them now, otherwise, I'll post them for comparison,) and I don't recall ever seeing his "carving" video, and none of them TTB, maybe you Whistler group can put your money where your mouth is, and put up a TTB, so we all can see how well you Whistler group can do, so we can discuss? (if you don't already have one, there's still a mouth till the ski resorts to close,) Otherwise, you Whistler group is just like norman, another blow-hard/吹牛 party.

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[B2L2]

No, I didn't mention his title at all at beginning; it is you Whistler group insist to bring his title into the discussing/bashing. Nevertheless, the certification does represent certain level of skiing skills, and his videos have demonstrated that as well. All these “ex-racers, ex-coaches, or ex-whatever," though their physical conditions may be declining, but their techniques and skiing still better than you average/weekend skiers.

I have no problem with all the "ex" professionals being strong than "us" average/weekend skiers. :) If you read #75 again, you're the one who bring the "ex"-title into the discussion in this thread. I do agree certain certification does represent certain level of skiing. You know PKU is a current active L2 and I don't understand why you insist that you want to MA his skiing. You aren't in the CSIA system and you basically against it anyway. Any comment from you could be consider biased anyway.

No, I don't have to see all of his videos to know how he ski—that's the skill called "Motion Analysis"/MA—and comparing to the "experts" videos he posted previously as "high performance skiing," his mogul videos are mediocre, (can't find them now, otherwise, I'll post them for comparison,) and I don't recall ever seeing his "carving" video, and none of them TTB, maybe you Whistler group can put your money where your mouth is, and put up a TTB, so we all can see how well you Whistler group can do, so we can discuss? (if you don't already have one, there's still a mouth till the ski resorts to close,) Otherwise, you Whistler group is just like norman, another blow-hard/吹牛 party.

If you're too lazy to search, that's your lost then. Just from my memory, we have long video from BigWhite, LakeLouise, etc. Carving video, why you care? You don't like carving anyway. Why don't you ask us for flatboarding video? I think we even have some TaiChi skiing videos, do you want to rate those as well? We were only mediocre in TaiChi skiing and could definitely get some helps from you.

If you rate PKU's mogul as mediocre, that's fine. Everything is relatives. If you compare him to the ski god, maybe you're right. If you compare that to yourself, maybe you are practicing what "gappers" do like how you mention them. I wouldn't like to see you become another "Norman" for sure. One is enough here.

Just curious, did Mike ever comment on your skiing?

[pku]

No, we don't do that kind of gossips around here, and I'm not even supposed to use his name, but snowrider blew it out, so he now has a name. Among these ex-racers and ex-coaches and ex-whatever old-timers, no one cares what your previous title was, so, if you don't tell [your story], no one would ask. And they only care if you know how to ski [physically], so no one would lie about their ranks, and there's no advantage to lie about your own abilities—when you ski everyone would know—the higher you boast, the harder you'll fall. So, I have no reasons to doubt what he said, and his skiing also confirmed it.



No, I didn't ask whether PKU could or could not do TTB but ask to see his ski TTB's performance; given that he is level 2 instructor, he should be able to do the TTB; nevertheless, how he perform (speed, form, and/or trainsition smooth or not, etc.,) will tell his ski level.



TTB is a generic term, as we usually ski in a ski resort, so it usually means the highest lift to the bottom/parking lot level, in "one breath," which means "non-stop," or something like that. And you were right, "no particular form" specified. The following clip is one of typical TTB run,

Heavenly skiing: TTB, Olympicdownhill, Heavenly - YouTube


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For sure the bottom is the parking lot but for sure, it's not the highest lift. It's only half the vertical of Heavenly.