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skier888
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文章 skier888 » 週日 12月 19, 2010 2:54 pm

norman 寫:您前面有講了,我已看到了,問題是,您會跟著這樣子練嗎?

再說,這影片內的動作也沒有您貼的那兩張中的動作,未達到一定程度以上,要做這樣的動作本來對一般人來說是不可能的,但有達到就一定能做得出來。

問我會不會這麼練,我當然是不會的囉,我又沒要比賽,我不需要增加我的心肺能力及肌耐力及爆發力,我只要能滑出跟示範影片一模一樣的漂亮動作就行了,這樣的速度就已經夠快了。

再說我練的是姿勢漂亮及省力就行了,其他的就不用講了,難道您是比賽選手,那您就需要跟這影片一樣努力練習了。 :face (334):
他做的其中一些動作跟circuit trainning, body sculpting 相同 :face (52): 一星期我在健身房練6小時 :face (341): 他擧的重量至少25磅 :face (330): 我只能在 6-12 磅之間徘徊 :face (331): 我的目的只是健身及改進體力 :face (51): 我踩的球比較扁較容易 :face (341): 我一天練平衡斷斷續續至少半小時 :face (341):



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文章 norman » 週日 12月 19, 2010 3:16 pm

skier888 寫:他做的其中一些動作跟circuit trainning, body sculpting 相同 :face (52): 一星期我在健身房練6小時 :face (341): 他擧的重量至少25磅 :face (330): 我只能在 6-12 磅之間徘徊 :face (331): 我的目的只是健身及改進體力 :face (51): 我踩的球比較扁較容易 :face (341): 我一天練平衡斷斷續續至少半小時 :face (341):
厲害厲害 :face (330): ,叫我這麼做,累死我了,絕對不幹,我只有要出門滑雪前一個月,才會在家裏跑步一周3~6小時而已,練一下扛雪板的走路體力足夠用就行了。 :face (334):
目前總滑天數80天。繼續累積中...我想滑雪。 :face (292): :face (292): :face (292):

滑雪人

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文章 skier888 » 週日 12月 19, 2010 3:28 pm

norman 寫:厲害厲害 :face (330): ,叫我這麼做,累死我了,絕對不幹,我只有要出門滑雪前一個月,才會在家裏跑步一周3~6小時而已,練一下扛雪板的走路體力足夠用就行了。 :face (334):
沒辦法,如果我技術像大師這麽好我也不會練得這麽勤了。我還練這個。這種機絲大師因該看不在眼裏 :face (327):

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文章 pku » 週日 12月 19, 2010 9:26 pm

norman 寫:雙腳都打開了,還算是雙腳如同單腳?我真的不知道您們的標準在哪裏囉。 :laf (0):
You are right, skiing powder need a closer stance to make 2 foot become one. 雙腳都打開了, is not not good for powder.

That's why I said Taichiski's stance is not close and the movement of his feet is not quite working together. I think you just can't understand what I said.

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文章 pku » 週日 12月 19, 2010 9:34 pm

norman 寫:這點就讓您講到我下次拍片,趁這時候能佔便宜就讓您佔囉,無所謂,反正您又不會學我的技術,就算我6年後再拍,真的如我現在所說的都做到的話,您也不會有什麼損失跟介意的。 :face (334):
6年後, I may not be able to ski again, then we switch, I'll be the talking ski King

I can say, 下次拍片, I can ski better than Richard Berger
as long as I don't go sking again, nobody can prove me wrong :face (334):

I may train a kid to beat you 6年後

So I am the talking ski king and he or she will be the king of the forum :face (334):

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文章 pku » 週日 12月 19, 2010 9:38 pm

skier888 寫:沒辦法,如果我技術像大師這麽好我也不會練得這麽勤了。我還練這個。這種機絲大師因該看不在眼裏 :face (327):

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I really appreciate your effort :face (330):

See if you can come skiing on Whistler and have fun together. ( just afraid you need to wait for us too long every single run )

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文章 norman » 週一 12月 20, 2010 1:14 am

pku 寫:6年後, I may not be able to ski again, then we switch, I'll be the talking ski King

I can say, 下次拍片, I can ski better than Richard Berger
as long as I don't go sking again, nobody can prove me wrong :face (334):

I may train a kid to beat you 6年後

So I am the talking ski king and he or she will be the king of the forum :face (334):
沒辦法呀,我說的6年後是最壞最壞的可能性,我可不希望發生這樣的事,只好自己保祐自己了。 :fm (38):
目前總滑天數80天。繼續累積中...我想滑雪。 :face (292): :face (292): :face (292):

滑雪人

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文章 norman » 週一 12月 20, 2010 1:22 am

skier888 寫:沒辦法,如果我技術像大師這麽好我也不會練得這麽勤了。我還練這個。這種機絲大師因該看不在眼裏 :face (327):

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拿來練ski的平衡感嗎?

我不是看不在眼裏,而是覺得練這個效果有限,在動態轉彎下,有很多細微無法講清楚的操作方式,不是只有單單練這個平衡就好了,除非您只打算高速衝直線下山,不然這練習的方式對改善技術幫助不大。

操作原理通了,動作時機對了(事實上會了,這個真的沒有想像中複雜),平衡自然就高了,在練習方面反而會省力而快速不知多少倍,我也很想今年能出門滑雪,至少應該把我的最後一步給證明了,而不是掛在這裏暫時當懸案,可惜好不容易練到最後一個階段的總和了,這事也令我感到無力感。 :tusky (69):
目前總滑天數80天。繼續累積中...我想滑雪。 :face (292): :face (292): :face (292):

滑雪人

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文章 skier888 » 週一 12月 20, 2010 11:25 am

norman 寫:拿來練ski的平衡感嗎?

我不是看不在眼裏,而是覺得練這個效果有限,在動態轉彎下,有很多細微無法講清楚的操作方式,不是只有單單練這個平衡就好了,除非您只打算高速衝直線下山,不然這練習的方式對改善技術幫助不大。
那請問您對這有經驗嗎 :face (46): 您會動態轉彎嗎 :face (46): 有影片嗎 :face (46):

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文章 norman » 週一 12月 20, 2010 2:10 pm

skier888 寫:那請問您對這有經驗嗎 :face (46): 您會動態轉彎嗎 :face (46): 有影片嗎 :face (46):
又提到我的痛處了,只要能拍新影片,就一定有,我絕對有這個信心。:keroro (5):
目前總滑天數80天。繼續累積中...我想滑雪。 :face (292): :face (292): :face (292):

滑雪人

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文章 skier888 » 週一 12月 20, 2010 2:18 pm

norman 寫:又提到我的痛處了,只要能拍新影片,就一定有,我絕對有這個信心。:keroro (5):
ok 我搞清楚了 :face (52): 你"覺得練這個效果有限"是因爲你跟本沒用過 :face (41): 你的"會動態轉彎"是由信心而來 :face (330): 不用真的做過 :face (8):

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文章 skier888 » 週一 12月 20, 2010 2:26 pm

pku 寫:I really appreciate your effort :face (330):

See if you can come skiing on Whistler and have fun together. ( just afraid you need to wait for us too long every single run )
Thank you for the encouragement. I realize that injuries take a long time to heal when I get older during the past few years. That is part of my motivation. To help heal old injuries and prevent future injuries. There is no time to think when skiing in many situation. I want to improve my reflex and I know my weakness so I started the balance exercise. In reality, I am just an intermediate and trying to improve quick.

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文章 norman » 週一 12月 20, 2010 6:09 pm

skier888 寫:ok 我搞清楚了 :face (52): 你"覺得練這個效果有限"是因爲你跟本沒用過 :face (41): 你的"會動態轉彎"是由信心而來 :face (330): 不用真的做過 :face (8):
您根本沒搞清楚... :laf (0):
目前總滑天數80天。繼續累積中...我想滑雪。 :face (292): :face (292): :face (292):

滑雪人

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文章 taichiskiing » 週一 12月 20, 2010 10:17 pm

pku 寫:On this kind of condition, you need to 把双板滑成像單板的樣子 so the ouside ski doen't sink too much but from my point of view, he is not really 把双板滑成像單板的樣子 , his lead change is still quite obvious.
Yes, there are three inherited problems using skis for powder skiing: crossed tips, forked skis, and/or uneven footing. So, to ski the two skis as "one" makes powder skiing much easier and more enjoyable. However, two skis are two skis (and inside ski and outside ski are behaved differently too), how can we make them to be "one"? Pressure/氣! Feel the two skis as one "pressure," we have only "one platform" to maneuver. Given the Flatboarding theory, the "platform" would go straight if the pressure on the two skis are equal, and "turn" to the heavy ski side, and "tip lead" is one way to vary and to balance the pressure between the two skis. Tip lead, serves the same function as slipping the inside ski to initiate the turn, makes smooth transition. Here's another look of skiing the natural pipe, the tip lead is too obvious,

YouTube - Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: Short Spoke gully, Kirkwood


:)
IS

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文章 pku » 週二 12月 21, 2010 11:34 am

skier888 寫:Thank you for the encouragement. I realize that injuries take a long time to heal when I get older during the past few years. That is part of my motivation. To help heal old injuries and prevent future injuries. There is no time to think when skiing in many situation. I want to improve my reflex and I know my weakness so I started the balance exercise. In reality, I am just an intermediate and trying to improve quick.
I strongly agree physical strenth is very impotatant. It can improve reflex and can prevent injury.

For the days you ski, you should pass the intermediate level, you are just too humble.

Anyway, in case you come to ski Whistler in the near future, let's ski few runs together

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文章 snowrider » 週二 12月 21, 2010 10:18 pm

skier888 寫:... injuries take a long time to heal ...
You got an injury? How and where?

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文章 snowrider » 週二 12月 21, 2010 10:20 pm

pku 寫:I strongly agree physical strenth is very impotatant. It can improve reflex and can prevent injury.

For the days you ski, you should pass the intermediate level, you are just too humble.

Anyway, in case you come to ski Whistler in the near future, let's ski few runs together
pku, is Whistler your home resort? You are lucky to live close to that giant resort.

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文章 skier888 » 週三 12月 22, 2010 12:48 am

pku 寫:I strongly agree physical strenth is very impotatant. It can improve reflex and can prevent injury.

For the days you ski, you should pass the intermediate level, you are just too humble.

Anyway, in case you come to ski Whistler in the near future, let's ski few runs together
I will look you up if I go to Wihistler

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文章 skier888 » 週三 12月 22, 2010 12:49 am

snowrider 寫:You got an injury? How and where?
Mostly twisting type injuris at the various joints from fall

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文章 pku » 週三 12月 22, 2010 1:18 am

snowrider 寫:pku, is Whistler your home resort? You are lucky to live close to that giant resort.
First time skiing there in the early 90s, for the pass 10 years, almost every weekend.

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