nz 滑雪之旅 7月2x至8月頭

管他是好咖還是怪咖,只要是咖就能發言,有任何技術問題,在此討論就對啦。

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文章 lelo » 週日 5月 29, 2011 1:30 pm

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pku 寫:The color one is I try to translate for you so you can make Paul understand what ypu boost. Of course you don't dare to send it because your skiing is so shitty right now.

First of all, their skiing is very so so, not really impressive for me, Second, From 04:16- 04:24, it's just like an excise of retracting the feet at the end of the turn, we did it sometimes in training and it's not hard at all. the guy also look a liitle 辛苦, at least doesn't look comfortable.

I know nothing about rollerblading but for sure it helps skiing a bit. It helps doesn't mean that it can replace on snow trainning.

Last year you already said you can ski like the demo after last year pratice on roller blade but the result is just a joke. I know you'll keep like a joke for some more years since you won't go skiing but keep boosting how good you are. Nobody can replace your position as a joke.
我本來就有打算再問Paul,只是我知現在還不是時候,最快也要等我練完九天饅頭後,那時我就需要問了。

我覺得你看留言都看一半的,有看到這一句嗎?「當然,我練的目標還不在此,你很難想像的啦。」。

另外你說的收腳練習,我當然知道,可惜,沒練正確,幫助依然不大,而你不了解我的意思。

而你並不了解我指的影片中這個動作是什麼意思,這點我很認定,因為要是有幫助,你現在的饅頭動作就不止是這樣子而已。我是在說,之前我滑的down unweigh的動作,你看不懂,所以我可以先以直排輪演示一個你看得懂的down unweigh動作,講了你也不明白啦,反正我要是拍後,你再看不懂,就不能怪我說你真的眼力很差了。



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文章 lelo » 週日 5月 29, 2011 1:30 pm

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taichiskiing 寫:主意不錯,但是也是這個“要確定自己如何點杖”(決定點杖的時效與地點)太慢,使得你快不起來。

又創一個新名稱?什麼叫做核心技術完善嗎,你要是不知道主、副腳和其作用在那,你也不知道重心是什麼,所以你也不知道怎樣去調整重心的變化,另外一個你快不起來的原因。

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IS
我說的核心技術,完全以腹腰為軸心發力動作,事實上我已不在乎其他小細節動作了,也許你看到我下次拍的直排輪動作,你或許會了解我的意思了。

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文章 pku » 週日 5月 29, 2011 1:31 pm

taichiskiing 寫:No, if Norman were not married, he would probably ski like carver_hk, all over the places and all the time (which he did before he got married, 溫柔鄉,英雄塚); who knows, he might just take up CSIA's training courses, and that's what I see how a lot of Chinese from Hongkong and Taiwan get their CSIA certs, easy.

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IS
Your information is not quite right, even before marriage, he didn't ski that much, maximum 2 trips a year in one year if I my memory is right. he spend most of his training on the stairs of his house. See if you can get the CSIA cert. It's easy for lots of people but is hard for you because you need to use the ploes in their way, not your highend way.

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文章 lelo » 週日 5月 29, 2011 1:34 pm

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snowrider 寫:Taichiskiing - that statement is an insult to CSIA. You must be kidding that Norman can pass CSIA L2 with only few ski days a year in few years?
L2有什麼難的,少自以為是,照系統教學,照系統做而已,我喜歡我的方式,多過於一般系統教學,不行嗎?那我設立一個系統的話,你來考我的系統,你豈不是連L1都考不上,除非你懂得如何教我所謂的第一階段,可惜,你不會,對吧?在我看來,PSIA L1而已,還敢講這種話,先秀個影片再來論實力吧,可別像BEG一樣,CSIA L2,滑那種動作實在不什麼樣。

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文章 lelo » 週日 5月 29, 2011 1:35 pm

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pku 寫:It's not me to compare them, It's Norman step down her and said he can bet her after 6 days of skiing.

You don't have to show your bump skiing to me again and again, show me when I am on Heavenly next season.

As I said before, he may fulfill his dream if he can spend 1/2 the snow time like you. In sport, you can't only study, you need to do it, pratice and pratice and the dream may come true, but still depend on one's talent.

I am not the only one who argue with you. As BB said, your skiing can be considered as drill and an realy expert can ski the way you ski. You can prove me wrong once I am on Heavenly. At least you are on slope so we should be able to meet if we try. Norman will never dare to come out. He may go to take video of his skiing on some easy slope and just says our level of skiing is too low to understand. By the way, he also argue with you once he think he's better than you on the rollerblade and the endless argument persist for few monthes since he got some back up from Beg.

Anyway , enjoy your summer and see you next Feb on Heavenly. Mike on HKSSA already bought a pass there and we'll join him.
誰不敢出來,不然下次我有機會出門時,看我只能去哪裏,你們自己飛來找我,我又不像你們住在溫哥華或是靠近雪場的地方,講的真容易勒。

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文章 pku » 週日 5月 29, 2011 1:48 pm

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我本來就有打算再問Paul,只是我知現在還不是時候,最快也要等我練完九天饅頭後,那時我就需要問了。

我覺得你看留言都看一半的,有看到這一句嗎?「當然,我練的目標還不在此,你很難想像的啦。」。

另外你說的收腳練習,我當然知道,可惜,沒練正確,幫助依然不大,而你不了解我的意思。

而你並不了解我指的影片中這個動作是什麼意思,這點我很認定,因為要是有幫助,你現在的饅頭動作就不止是這樣子而已。我是在說,之前我滑的down unweigh的動作,你看不懂,所以我可以先以直排輪演示一個你看得懂的down unweigh動作,講了你也不明白啦,反正我要是拍後,你再看不懂,就不能怪我說你真的眼力很差了。
正常人不會看得懂你的動作, 精神有問題才可看得懂你在做什麼

我不懂看直排歹輪


我是正常入,也不像你一樣 會吹牛
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文章 pku » 週日 5月 29, 2011 1:55 pm

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誰不敢出來,不然下次我有機會出門時,看我只能去哪裏,你們自己飛來找我,我又不像你們住在溫哥華或是靠近雪場的地方,講的真容易勒。
下次我有機會出門時

When is 下次, I flight to Japan skiing there last year and this year. If one realy want to go especially you are noodles resturants boss, should be easy. You just make too much excauses, wife , kid , father and open new resturant.

You already said go to ski the 10 km bumps run in Europe, and see who can ski faster. You memory is :face (334): :face (334): 精神有問題 :face (334): :face (334):

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文章 pku » 週日 5月 29, 2011 2:07 pm

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L2有什麼難的,少自以為是,照系統教學,照系統做而已,我喜歡我的方式,多過於一般系統教學,不行嗎?那我設立一個系統的話,你來考我的系統,你豈不是連L1都考不上,除非你懂得如何教我所謂的第一階段,可惜,你不會,對吧?在我看來,PSIA L1而已,還敢講這種話,先秀個影片再來論實力吧,可別像BEG一樣,CSIA L2,滑那種動作實在不什麼樣。


你的系統, 你滑得這麼難看,

你的系統 L1考不上is a beautiful skier, L1 is a good skier, L2 is so so skier, L3 is a bad skier and L4 like like you is an ugly skier.


Really Ugly skiing, Norman Level 4 demonstraion :face (334): :face (334):

YouTube - ‪黑線饅頭‬‏
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文章 snowrider » 週一 5月 30, 2011 12:40 am

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誰不敢出來,不然下次我有機會出門時,看我只能去哪裏,你們自己飛來找我,我又不像你們住在溫哥華或是靠近雪場的地方,講的真容易勒。

Norman - That is another excuse again. I take two ski trips every season by flying to the West (USA). If you are willing to ski with friends here, we can make that arragement. For example, PKU is organizing a trip to Lake Tahoe next season. I think that it's your best opportunity to ski with friends.

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文章 snowrider » 週一 5月 30, 2011 12:44 am

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L2有什麼難的,少自以為是,照系統教學,照系統做而已,我喜歡我的方式,多過於一般系統教學,不行嗎?那我設立一個系統的話,你來考我的系統,你豈不是連L1都考不上...

Thanks Norman - for the Joke of the Day. I bet you will be kicked ass if you dare to PK with any of us here.

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文章 taichiskiing » 週一 5月 30, 2011 1:21 am

pku 寫:It's not me to compare them, It's Norman step down her and said he can bet her after 6 days of skiing.
Yup, his bad, remember what you said that you weekenders beat us everyday skiers? I understand how you feel.
You don't have to show your bump skiing to me again and again, show me when I am on Heavenly next season.
Well, if you don't twist the facts, then I don't have to show you to prove myself?
As I said before, he may fulfill his dream if he can spend 1/2 the snow time like you. In sport, you can't only study, you need to do it, pratice and pratice and the dream may come true, but still depend on one's talent.
No, over the years arguing with him, I figure that his dream is to be able to ski the black diamond moguls with whatever he thinks "cool postures" so he can brag about it, which is really not that hard to do; I did it in my first three years, about thirty days, of skiing. I don't think I was "talented," but I did do a lot of "practice," I run regularly, studied the martial arts for learning how to move the body efficiently, and a lot of study/meditation to get rid of "impure ideas"/useless thoughts, so my body can move freely [to ski]. No, high level skiing is not because of "talent," but "discipline."
I am not the only one who argue with you. As BB said, your skiing can be considered as drill and an realy expert can ski the way you ski. You can prove me wrong once I am on Heavenly. At least you are on slope so we should be able to meet if we try.
I can understand why and how them bears arguing with me, after all, skiing is their western sport, and they do have long history of experience and knowledge (collectively) on skiing, and Taichi Skiing is quite a "foreign"/oriental stuff and new to them and beating on their turfs, of course they reject/排外, if not racism, but what reasons you Chinese gappers have? No skills, no experiences, and no knowledge, only 盲從起哄, if not 崇洋? 5 years, since hkssa days, you gappers haven't learned much or gone anywhere, but why would I care?

Given BB's audience are them bears, BB was letting them bears down easy; "drills" are for those who cannot ski like me to practice, and you missed this, "it is also true that anyone who cannot ski like Snowbender is certainly not an expert," accordingly, Taichi Skiing has set the minimum standard for expert skiing.
Norman will never dare to come out. He may go to take video of his skiing on some easy slope and just says our level of skiing is too low to understand. By the way, he also argue with you once he think he's better than you on the rollerblade and the endless argument persist for few monthes since he got some back up from Beg.
I think Norman would if he could, you are beating a dead horse. Yes, Norman is pretty self-conceit/自以為是, so he cannot learn "humbly," he has to argue, but he learns. And I was here to help, so we have the "discussions." And I've learned from him too—not necessarily skiing, but on human side of behaviors—so the exchanges still serve their functions. Beg's vexatious posting, only exposing himself a shameless little character, are a waste of the forum's bandwidth.
Anyway , enjoy your summer and see you next Feb on Heavenly. Mike on HKSSA already bought a pass there and we'll join him.
Great, then we'll meet for sure. Keep up the workout, make a lot of money, don't get sick, and don't get hurt, we shall see you guys on Heavenly comes Feb.

:)
IS

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文章 taichiskiing » 週一 5月 30, 2011 1:48 am

pku 寫:Your information is not quite right, even before marriage, he didn't ski that much, maximum 2 trips a year in one year if I my memory is right. he spend most of his training on the stairs of his house. See if you can get the CSIA cert. It's easy for lots of people but is hard for you because you need to use the ploes in their way, not your highend way.
That was quite a bit already, given Taiwan has no skiing environment/culture, and he was a beginner. No, real Kungfu is 以技術為本位, I don't tie skiing skills directly to one's certificate or rating. Only question one needs to answer is "can YOU/oneself do it?" And you don't do any better pole-plants than I do,

YouTube - Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: tree skiing with pole plants



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文章 beg » 週一 5月 30, 2011 2:05 am

taichiskiing 寫:That was quite a bit already, given Taiwan has no skiing environment/culture, and he was a beginner. No, real Kungfu is 以技術為本位, I don't tie skiing skills directly to one's certificate or rating. Only question one needs to answer is "can YOU/oneself do it?" And you don't do any better pole-plants than I do,

YouTube - Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: tree skiing with pole plants


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IS
Cert is not a big deal, I never mention I am L2 when you challenge me. You are the only one here always challenge skiers with this question. You hate skiers with certain because you got kick out in PSIA L1 exam. :face (334):

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文章 pku » 週一 5月 30, 2011 9:12 am

taichiskiing 寫:That was quite a bit already, given Taiwan has no skiing environment/culture, and he was a beginner. No, real Kungfu is 以技術為本位, I don't tie skiing skills directly to one's certificate or rating. Only question one needs to answer is "can YOU/oneself do it?" And you don't do any better pole-plants than I do,

YouTube - Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: tree skiing with pole plants


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IS
I use poles to maintain my rymthm , timing and some times stop turning my upper body too much in short turns. I like skiing short turns.

So when we meet, we can make some runs together that you ski with poles and I ski without poles and see what will be the outcome.

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文章 pku » 週一 5月 30, 2011 9:19 am

taichiskiing 寫:Yup, his bad, remember what you said that you weekenders beat us everyday skiers? I understand how you feel.



Great, then we'll meet for sure. Keep up the workout, make a lot of money, don't get sick, and don't get hurt, we shall see you guys on Heavenly comes Feb.

:)
IS
At least i am trying to make you prove I am wrong. He is just making excuses not to come out.

I've already save the money for the trip, for sure I won't stop my regular work out and hope I can stay healthy as this season. See ypu then.
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文章 lelo » 週一 5月 30, 2011 10:02 am

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snowrider 寫:Norman - That is another excuse again. I take two ski trips every season by flying to the West (USA). If you are willing to ski with friends here, we can make that arragement. For example, PKU is organizing a trip to Lake Tahoe next season. I think that it's your best opportunity to ski with friends.
我連之前ams提的到世窗,最少也要花三天都出不了門了,到日本最低要五天,更不可能出門,何況到美加,我最少也要安排九天,難道去美加滑個兩三天就回家,這還不如去日本就好了,不過最近日本核電的事,剛好絕了我出門滑雪的想法了,所以短時間內,我應該是不會出門滑雪的。 :face (343):

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文章 lelo » 週一 5月 30, 2011 10:14 am

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pku 寫:正常人不會看得懂你的動作, 精神有問題才可看得懂你在做什麼

我不懂看直排歹輪


我是正常入,也不像你一樣 會吹牛
你只是眼力低,技術普普而已,所以看不出來是正常的。 :face (3):

等你眼力跟技術再提高,就是看出來後也不敢講,因為你認為那些是精神有問題的。 :face (50):

激我去找你們尬是沒用的,我有自己的排程,真有機會,自然就去找你們滑了,講我躲在電腦後不敢去找你們滑,實在太不厚道,家家有本難唸的經,你住在溫哥華,在國外呆太久了,就如台灣人跟外省人的思想行為還是有些差異的,我只能說我是在一個傳統家庭,而不是超級富二代,所以我當然是以家庭為主囉,我幹嘛為證技術找你們尬,尬贏尬輸也不會什麼樣。我老婆也有親戚住溫哥華,我就有跟她提過,等小朋友大一些能帶出門一起滑雪,我一定會去溫哥華一趟的,因為我打算去那邊買裝備,主要是買雪鞋,至少要買一雙穿起來舒服的雪鞋就好了,我現在是沒雪板也沒雪鞋也沒雪鏡了,所以為了找你們尬,什麼算都不划算的。

所以我家小朋友現在是2歲半,至少要等到6歲左右,最少還要等三年半呢,我這兩年出門已犯眾怒了,女人說你可以出門滑雪,千萬別信以為真,所以今年我出門回來後,帳一一的開始算了,其中一點是,現在我是被嚴禁上「任何」滑雪網站的,不然要離婚,老婆都講出這樣的話了,雖我聽聽不大信以為真而已,但也不能太當耳邊風,所以還是要小心再小心,我連要練練直排輪都幾乎找不到時間了,所以就讓你暫時再逞逞口舌吧,對我來講,只是像卡住的留聲機而已。

反正遲早會到加拿大滑雪的,你覺得你不能戰時,到時叫你女兒出來尬也行的。 :face (334):

另外想到一件事,雖然我很會煎牛排,但我不是開餐廳的,我也不想開餐廳。 :face (343):

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文章 lelo » 週一 5月 30, 2011 10:28 am

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所以我家小朋友現在是2歲半,至少要等到6歲左右,最少還要等三年半呢,我這兩年出門已犯眾怒了,女人說你可以出門滑雪,千萬別信以為真,所以今年我出門回來後,帳一一的開始算了,其中一點是,現在我是被嚴禁上「任何」滑雪網站的,不然要離婚,老婆都講出這樣的話了,雖我聽聽不大信以為真而已,但也不能太當耳邊風,所以還是要小心再小心,我連要練練直排輪都幾乎找不到時間了,所以就讓你暫時再逞逞口舌吧,對我來講,只是像卡住的留聲機而已。
norman 兄!你每次去滑雪看花了多少,乘以2之後,買顆鑽石送你老婆,給現金也可以,保證你老婆不會過問你跑到那裏去的 ....

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#139 回覆: nz 滑雪之旅 7月2x至8月頭

文章 skier888 » 週一 5月 30, 2011 1:02 pm

lelo 寫:(代 norman 貼回覆)



你只是眼力低,技術普普而已,所以看不出來是正常的。 :face (3):

等你眼力跟技術再提高,就是看出來後也不敢講,因為你認為那些是精神有問題的。 :face (50):

激我去找你們尬是沒用的,我有自己的排程,真有機會,自然就去找你們滑了,講我躲在電腦後不敢去找你們滑,實在太不厚道,家家有本難唸的經,你住在溫哥華,在國外呆太久了,就如台灣人跟外省人的思想行為還是有些差異的,我只能說我是在一個傳統家庭,而不是超級富二代,所以我當然是以家庭為主囉,我幹嘛為證技術找你們尬,尬贏尬輸也不會什麼樣。我老婆也有親戚住溫哥華,我就有跟她提過,等小朋友大一些能帶出門一起滑雪,我一定會去溫哥華一趟的,因為我打算去那邊買裝備,主要是買雪鞋,至少要買一雙穿起來舒服的雪鞋就好了,我現在是沒雪板也沒雪鞋也沒雪鏡了,所以為了找你們尬,什麼算都不划算的。

所以我家小朋友現在是2歲半,至少要等到6歲左右,最少還要等三年半呢,我這兩年出門已犯眾怒了,女人說你可以出門滑雪,千萬別信以為真,所以今年我出門回來後,帳一一的開始算了,其中一點是,現在我是被嚴禁上「任何」滑雪網站的,不然要離婚,老婆都講出這樣的話了,雖我聽聽不大信以為真而已,但也不能太當耳邊風,所以還是要小心再小心,我連要練練直排輪都幾乎找不到時間了,所以就讓你暫時再逞逞口舌吧,對我來講,只是像卡住的留聲機而已。

反正遲早會到加拿大滑雪的,你覺得你不能戰時,到時叫你女兒出來尬也行的。 :face (334):

另外想到一件事,雖然我很會煎牛排,但我不是開餐廳的,我也不想開餐廳。 :face (343):
是你程度低吧搞不懂吧。不要忘記h你是advance beginner. :face (334): :face (334): :face (334):
你的方法進步是很快,讓你60天達到advance beginner :face (330): :face (330): :face (330):

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#140 回覆: nz 滑雪之旅 7月2x至8月頭

文章 lelo » 週一 5月 30, 2011 1:19 pm

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lelo 寫:norman 兄!你每次去滑雪看花了多少,乘以2之後,買顆鑽石送你老婆,給現金也可以,保證你老婆不會過問你跑到那裏去的 ....
這滑雪費可不便宜呀,今年出門滑雪,才五天,我還是花了十幾萬呢(有一半的錢是給我老婆的),我要是出買禮物送她,也是算在滑雪內,所以我出門花多少錢,就要給她多少錢,當她的買路費囉,這麼貴也滑得下去呀,太不值得了吧?不過其實這是一種調劑生活,這意思是說,錢還是讓老婆多掌控一些會比較好,至少回來不會更慘。

但這些都不重要,重點是今年我果然慘了,回來一個月後,跟我哭訴,我過年出門滑雪滑得爽,丟她們母子兩在家過年吃泡麵,一邊吃一邊哭,哇勒,不是她答應我及如要滑雪就只能過年出門滑雪嗎?還外加一堆條件,所以我這次拼了才這麼急著出門的,至少我證明了我的進步,只是有人死不承認而已。

說回來,我相信這裏沒人會花十萬以上只滑個三天而已吧?而這只是滑雪的錢,沒有任何其他購物。

所以最近網路不是有個叫女人翻譯機嗎?真是太貼切了,我就是白目嘛,所以這幾年要乖一點了,禮物不是重點,人要在身邊才是重點。如果不是真的愛對方,那禮物就是重點囉,這是有差別的。


PS. 我要是把這兩年的滑雪所花的錢,等到幾年後再滑,我都可以滑20~30天都沒問題了,太不值得了。 :face (44): 不過分這兩次也不能說沒收獲,我的收獲就是再練九天饅頭會得到的,如果連滑一個月都還沒有這幾天加起來的效果強。 :face (341):

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