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文章 pku » 週六 3月 16, 2013 11:42 am

taichiskiing 寫:No, I didn't mention his title at all at beginning; it is you Whistler group insist to bring his title into the discussing/bashing. Nevertheless, the certification does represent certain level of skiing skills, and his videos have demonstrated that as well. All these “ex-racers, ex-coaches, or ex-whatever," though their physical conditions may be declining, but their techniques and skiing still better than you average/weekend skiers.

Heavenly skiing: Wolfgang and locals, Olympic Downhill, Heavenly - YouTube




No, I don't have to see all of his videos to know how he ski—that's the skill called "Motion Analysis"/MA—and comparing to the "experts" videos he posted previously as "high performance skiing," his mogul videos are mediocre, (can't find them now, otherwise, I'll post them for comparison,) and I don't recall ever seeing his "carving" video, and none of them TTB, maybe you Whistler group can put your money where your mouth is, and put up a TTB, so we all can see how well you Whistler group can do, so we can discuss? (if you don't already have one, there's still a mouth till the ski resorts to close,) Otherwise, you Whistler group is just like norman, another blow-hard/吹牛 party.

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For sure my skiing is really not there. But your skiing is :face (47): :face (47): :face (50): :face (334):

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文章 skier888 » 週六 3月 16, 2013 1:20 pm

pku 寫:For sure my skiing is really not there. But your skiing is :face (47): :face (47): :face (50): :face (334):

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I can 晨運 ttb all day.

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文章 beg » 週六 3月 16, 2013 2:52 pm

taichiskiing 寫:No, I didn't mention his title at all at beginning; it is you Whistler group insist to bring his title into the discussing/bashing. Nevertheless, the certification does represent certain level of skiing skills, and his videos have demonstrated that as well. All these “ex-racers, ex-coaches, or ex-whatever," though their physical conditions may be declining, but their techniques and skiing still better than you average/weekend skiers.

Heavenly skiing: Wolfgang and locals, Olympic Downhill, Heavenly - YouTube


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So can you MA this cute cute 雪杖朝天 before you MA a CSIA L2 instructor? :face (334): :face (334):
How about let your PSIA ski master to MA it?


YouTube - 雪杖朝天Monoskiing
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文章 taichiskiing » 週六 3月 16, 2013 11:30 pm

B2L2 寫:I have no problem with all the "ex" professionals being strong than "us" average/weekend skiers. :) If you read #75 again, you're the one who bring the "ex"-title into the discussion in this thread. I do agree certain certification does represent certain level of skiing. You know PKU is a current active L2 and I don't understand why you insist that you want to MA his skiing. You aren't in the CSIA system and you basically against it anyway. Any comment from you could be consider biased anyway.
Well, the "ex-title" is still a "fact" brought upon by demonstrated techniques, which PKU has missed completely, and it is not the first time my friend's video been presented here; yes, I was aware that PKU is CSIA level 2, that is also why I was disappointed that he missed his MA, and kept on bashing, so unprofessional, proved that he is just another 'net-basher; "he has wasted his level 2 training." Whether or not he is a "current active" level 2 is not an issue here, his level 2 instructor's skills, only in the lower end in all CSIA skills spectrum, does not impress we old timers, so the TTB's requirement is established to level the playing field (only techniques count, and no title considered). No, I don't "insist" to do MA on his skiing, just checking his "credibility," and he failed.
If you're too lazy to search, that's your lost then. Just from my memory, we have long video from BigWhite, LakeLouise, etc.
Blame it on webpage's search, too primitive. But what's the big deal that you cannot post them again? If you Whistler group dare not to put up your videos, I didn't lose anything, but your group sure lose "big" to establish your group's credibility.
Carving video, why you care? You don't like carving anyway.
It is not whether or not I like it, but "carving" is now the "ski industry's" standard, and you tell me that he failed again? Impressive! I may not "pure carve," but I do carve. "To put my money where my mouth is," this run is also TTB,

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: Carving - YouTube


Why don't you ask us for flatboarding video?
No, no need to ask; you guys have no idea what "flatboarding" is, and "slipping turn" is also a high level technique.

WhitecraneTaichi Skiing/Flatboarding: ice skating - YouTube


I think we even have some TaiChi skiing videos, do you want to rate those as well? We were only mediocre in TaiChi skiing and could definitely get some helps from you.
Only other two "skiing Taichi style" clips on youtube I can find, is he one of your group?

Skiing - Taichi style by Master Yoda - YouTube



too much hand movements, which causes his upper body unstable; he got an idea, but long way to go.

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: free skiing - YouTube



And no, all we talking about so far is "Flatboarding," the external skiing techniques, and we haven't touch "Taichi" skiing part. "Taichi" skiing is to use "Taichi" to move the body to do the skiing. Not sure that you guys can be helped under your current mindsets.
If you rate PKU's mogul as mediocre, that's fine. Everything is relatives. If you compare him to the ski god, maybe you're right. If you compare that to yourself, maybe you are practicing what "gappers" do like how you mention them. I wouldn't like to see you become another "Norman" for sure. One is enough here.
You got that right, that's why I ask for his videos, I don't want to see him to become another norman, either. The true high level skiing is not just to ski short hops for short video clips, he still has a "seven minutes gap" to catch up before you can put the "gapper" on me. You are licking your own cheek.

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: shadow skiing, powder day on Gunbarrel, Heavenly - YouTube


Just curious, did Mike ever comment on your skiing?
No, we don't comment on each others' skiing just like you don't comment on your fellow L3/L4 instructors, that's only a professional courtesy, and you Whistler group should have learned it. Nevertheless, remember this guy, our new found "no poler"?

Heavenly skiing: local hotdog, Mike L., Pinnacles, Heavenly - YouTube



Mike told him, "If you can keep up with Ichin, you are a pretty good skier."

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文章 taichiskiing » 週六 3月 16, 2013 11:38 pm

pku 寫:For sure the bottom is the parking lot but for sure, it's not the highest lift. It's only half the vertical of Heavenly. :face (340): :face (340):

When facing the truth, against all odds, you're cheating yourself again. The top of Olympic is one of three peaks in Heavenly.

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文章 taichiskiing » 週六 3月 16, 2013 11:43 pm

pku 寫:For sure my skiing is really not there. But your skiing is :face (47): :face (47): :face (50): :face (334):

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「下士聞道,大笑之,不笑,不足以為道。」—道德經 41—

If you don't laugh, my skiing is not real. Your discipline level/修養水準 is getting lower everyday.

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文章 beg » 週日 3月 17, 2013 2:17 am

taichiskiing 寫:Well, the "ex-title" is still a "fact" brought upon by demonstrated techniques, which PKU has missed completely, and it is not the first time my friend's video been presented here; yes, I was aware that PKU is CSIA level 2, that is also why I was disappointed that he missed his MA, and kept on bashing, so unprofessional, proved that he is just another 'net-basher; "he has wasted his level 2 training." Whether or not he is a "current active" level 2 is not an issue here, his level 2 instructor's skills, only in the lower end in all CSIA skills spectrum, does not impress we old timers, so the TTB's requirement is established to level the playing field (only techniques count, and no title considered). No, I don't "insist" to do MA on his skiing, just checking his "credibility," and he failed.



Blame it on webpage's search, too primitive. But what's the big deal that you cannot post them again? If you Whistler group dare not to put up your videos, I didn't lose anything, but your group sure lose "big" to establish your group's credibility.



It is not whether or not I like it, but "carving" is now the "ski industry's" standard, and you tell me that he failed again? Impressive! I may not "pure carve," but I do carve. "To put my money where my mouth is," this run is also TTB,

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: Carving - YouTube




No, no need to ask; you guys have no idea what "flatboarding" is, and "slipping turn" is also a high level technique.

WhitecraneTaichi Skiing/Flatboarding: ice skating - YouTube




Only other two "skiing Taichi style" clips on youtube I can find, is he one of your group?

Skiing - Taichi style by Master Yoda - YouTube


too much hand movements, which causes his upper body unstable; he got an idea, but long way to go.Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: free skiing - YouTube


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IS
LOL, are you serious? :face (334):


Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: powder skiing trees, Maggie's Canyon, middle traverse, Heavenly - YouTube
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文章 beg » 週日 3月 17, 2013 2:31 am

taichiskiing 寫: Mike told him, "If you can keep up with Ichin, you are a pretty good skier."
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Did your ski master said a skier has to do this 雪杖朝天 to be a good skier? :face (334):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=en ... z0SHD4F4WI


弱智太極吹牛吹到經常自己踢爆自己吹的牛 :face (50): :face (50):
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文章 beg » 週日 3月 17, 2013 8:26 am

taichiskiing 寫:「下士聞道,大笑之,不笑,不足以為道。」—道德經 41—

If you don't laugh, my skiing is not real. Your discipline level/修養水準 is getting lower everyday.

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IS
妳能教我們如何有修養地唸道德經唸到面壁坐牢嗎? :face (46):

弱智太極吹牛吹到經常自己踢爆自己吹的牛 :face (50): :face (50):

taichiskiing 寫:“弱慢的鐵齒”,

Chattering Teeth - YouTube


早預測到你們Whistler group只是一群辯不過就罵人的小知小人。

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妳的烏咀假牙為何老是掉出來,趕快去看獸醫吧。 :face (50):

Chattering Teeth 太極烏咀假牙- YouTube
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文章 pku » 週日 3月 17, 2013 9:20 am

taichiskiing 寫:When facing the truth, against all odds, you're cheating yourself again. The top of Olympic is one of three peaks in Heavenly.

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It's just like 500-600 meter vertical and it's groomed . How hard is it to ski all the way down in one shoot . I never been in heavenly but according to the trail map . The top is like more than 10000.00 feet but the top of the Olympic run is 9000.00 feet and the bottom is like 7400 feet.

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文章 pku » 週日 3月 17, 2013 9:23 am

taichiskiing 寫:「下士聞道,大笑之,不笑,不足以為道。」—道德經 41—

If you don't laugh, my skiing is not real. Your discipline level/修養水準 is getting lower everyday.

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IS
我修養很普通,但你修養也不見得怎樣好。

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文章 taichiskiing » 週日 3月 17, 2013 10:52 pm

pku 寫:It's just like 500-600 meter vertical and it's groomed . How hard is it to ski all the way down in one shoot . I never been in heavenly but according to the trail map . The top is like more than 10000.00 feet but the top of the Olympic run is 9000.00 feet and the bottom is like 7400 feet.
No, I didn't say that TTB is hard, but a "basic" requirement for “會,”a simple long run is not for developing techniques (no forms specified) but train for stamina, endurance, and discipline; I'm surprised, given that you are level 2 instructor, and you don't even have a clip to show for? Not much to brag about; if you cannot do it on the groom runs, off-piste will be even more challenge.

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: shadow skiing, Grandview Express, Sierra at Tahoe - YouTube



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文章 skier888 » 週一 3月 18, 2013 2:25 am

taichiskiing 寫:謝謝自己承認‧早預測到你們Whistler group只是一群小知小技在網路上說別人技術不好來“自抬身架”,德性不好,技術也差的小知小人‧當你失去了你的道德水準,你的話也失去了內容,你是不會見真實‧流入beg級,雖然你能在“網路”上佔個“口頭上的便宜”,但是沒有什麼榮耀可言的。

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You are descrbing yourself. :face (50): Your reaction to this post will prove it. :face (334):

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文章 pku » 週一 3月 18, 2013 12:42 pm

taichiskiing 寫:Well, the "ex-title" is still a "fact" brought upon by demonstrated techniques, which PKU has missed completely, and it is not the first time my friend's video been presented here; yes, I was aware that PKU is CSIA level 2, that is also why I was disappointed that he missed his MA, and kept on bashing, so unprofessional, proved that he is just another 'net-basher; "he has wasted his level 2 training." Whether or not he is a "current active" level 2 is not an issue here, his level 2 instructor's skills, only in the lower end in all CSIA skills spectrum, does not impress we old timers, so the TTB's requirement is established to level the playing field (only techniques count, and no title considered). No, I don't "insist" to do MA on his skiing, just checking his "credibility," and he failed.



Blame it on webpage's search, too primitive. But what's the big deal that you cannot post them again? If you Whistler group dare not to put up your videos, I didn't lose anything, but your group sure lose "big" to establish your group's credibility.



It is not whether or not I like it, but "carving" is now the "ski industry's" standard, and you tell me that he failed again? Impressive! I may not "pure carve," but I do carve. "To put my money where my mouth is," this run is also TTB,

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: Carving - YouTube




No, no need to ask; you guys have no idea what "flatboarding" is, and "slipping turn" is also a high level technique.

WhitecraneTaichi Skiing/Flatboarding: ice skating - YouTube




Only other two "skiing Taichi style" clips on youtube I can find, is he one of your group?

Skiing - Taichi style by Master Yoda - YouTube


too much hand movements, which causes his upper body unstable; he got an idea, but long way to go.

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: free skiing - YouTube


And no, all we talking about so far is "Flatboarding," the external skiing techniques, and we haven't touch "Taichi" skiing part. "Taichi" skiing is to use "Taichi" to move the body to do the skiing. Not sure that you guys can be helped under your current mindsets.



You got that right, that's why I ask for his videos, I don't want to see him to become another norman, either. The true high level skiing is not just to ski short hops for short video clips, he still has a "seven minutes gap" to catch up before you can put the "gapper" on me. You are licking your own cheek.

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: shadow skiing, powder day on Gunbarrel, Heavenly - YouTube




No, we don't comment on each others' skiing just like you don't comment on your fellow L3/L4 instructors, that's only a professional courtesy, and you Whistler group should have learned it. Nevertheless, remember this guy, our new found "no poler"?

Heavenly skiing: local hotdog, Mike L., Pinnacles, Heavenly - YouTube


Mike told him, "If you can keep up with Ichin, you are a pretty good skier."

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IS
Since your memory is so bad

Double Black 2011-1 - YouTube


DOUBLE BLACK 2011-2 - YouTube


Down Black Bunps Run 2010 - YouTube
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文章 taichiskiing » 週一 3月 18, 2013 10:35 pm

Not bad skiing, but no, my memory isn't bad, there are no TTB, and no "carving." What about those clips? You think that because you know how to ski moguls, so only mogul skiing is "performance skiing"? “管眼”‧ It requires more skills and techniques to do what my friend does than your merely "turn skiing."

Heavenly skiing: TTB, Olympic to Boulder, Heavenly - YouTube



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文章 B2L2 » 週二 3月 19, 2013 1:44 am

FYI, first two runs are from the top of peak chair to the bottom of peak chair at Whistler. And it covers 1300ft vertical. Does that satisfy TTB?

Since according to you, no specific form of skiing is required to do TTB, it was just you who focused on the mogul style. Maybe you are the one with tunnel vision instead.

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文章 taichiskiing » 週二 3月 19, 2013 9:53 pm

B2L2 寫:FYI, first two runs are from the top of peak chair to the bottom of peak chair at Whistler. And it covers 1300ft vertical. Does that satisfy TTB?
Barely; my question was "what about them?" You Whistler group think if your group members do the TTB is "performance skiing," but others do it it's so-so? Did say that you Whistler group lacks of integrity.
Since according to you, no specific form of skiing is required to do TTB, it was just you who focused on the mogul style. Maybe you are the one with tunnel vision instead.
And you got that wrong too, it is PKU who was focused only on moguls to brag about it, or you don't know it was PKU who was doing the moguls? If it is former, it is you Whistler group with "baised" "tunnul vision"; and if it is latter, you are a little knowledge, so are you not also lying to yourself to cheat others? So the conclusion, "又一個“自欺欺人,騙自己”的發言,這個論壇上“弱慢”何其多?"

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文章 B2L2 » 週三 3月 20, 2013 12:14 am

Always the same old way. Keeping saying other "little knowledge" and put gold plate on your face. No good for any discussion.

Did you not understand English? My first line is a question, nowhere it is a statement. I'm answer whether you "consider" those two runs are TTB or not. Did I ever say you or your friend did just a "so-so" TTB run in that reply?

You asked for TTB video, PKU posted 3 video as a reply with no single comment. It was you who brought up the mogul skill and jump to conclusion. No where in TTB discussion required curving (or bump skiing) since you said no specific form is required, but you keep asking about it. Why? If you want to ask for curving video (on green groom runs especially), maybe you should start a new thread for that. There is no need to discuss skiing form in a TTB discussion, since again you are the one who said no specific form is needed.

Ok, one more time. If you answered "barely" for not quite agree those 2 runs are TTB, why? Please give a straight answer.

If one has tunnel vision, he always jump to conclusion like you did. And you just proved that yourself.

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文章 taichiskiing » 週三 3月 20, 2013 9:12 am

B2L2 寫:Always the same old way. Keeping saying other "little knowledge" and put gold plate on your face. No good for any discussion.
If you don't want others to say what you do is that you don't do it yourself, and when you operate on a smaller knowledge domain (e.g. skills for "mogul" skiing vs skills for "all-mountain" skiing) is what qualifies you "little knowledge." You are not a "little knowledge," no need to pretend to be one. And no, what kind of "meaningful" discussions that you Whistler group has provided here in past three years? Dog ate your papers? (Another prediction, you can't!)
Did you not understand English? My first line is a question, nowhere it is a statement. I'm answer whether you "consider" those two runs are TTB or not. Did I ever say you or your friend did just a "so-so" TTB run in that reply?
The answer was given, "barely," as PKU may spend long enough time on those runs, nevertheless, they missed "physical" criterion, a mid-mountain loading is not the "bottom." You didn't say "so-so," but you forgot to read what PKU was saying.
You asked for TTB video, PKU posted 3 video as a reply with no single comment. It was you who brought up the mogul skill and jump to conclusion. No where in TTB discussion required curving (or bump skiing) since you said no specific form is required, but you keep asking about it. Why?
The way PKU was saying, he did imply his runs were "performance skiing," if not "high performance skiing"; reread my posts around and about where the posts questioning his "performance skiing."
If you want to ask for curving video (on green groom runs especially), maybe you should start a new thread for that. There is no need to discuss skiing form in a TTB discussion, since again you are the one who said no specific form is needed.
Given PKU's wiggling answers, I knew that he may not have one, so I double checked his "credibility." You Whistler group couldn't provide credible answers, even the clips on "on green groom runs" may provide a "valid" answer, (as it is not as easy as it sounded, as green run TTBs are usually the longest run on the mountain,) but you group has failed, so the conclusion was correct, you Whistler group was lying to "gold plate your own face."
Ok, one more time. If you answered "barely" for not quite agree those 2 runs are TTB, why? Please give a straight answer.
TTB: "Top To Bottom" is "Top To Bottom"; and I don't really consider the following run a "true" TTB,

Heavenly skiing: Local skiers, Valerie and Doug; TTB, Stagecoach, Heavenly - YouTube



Do you know why? Read its description on youtube.
If one has tunnel vision, he always jump to conclusion like you did. And you just proved that yourself.
No, it is you Whistler group couldn't provide the "conclusion," so you argue to “佔口頭上的便宜,”ok, you can have it. You couldn't know me if you cannot see into my skiing.

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文章 norman » 週三 3月 20, 2013 10:42 am

taichiskiing 寫:Barely; my question was "what about them?" You Whistler group think if your group members do the TTB is "performance skiing," but others do it it's so-so? Did say that you Whistler group lacks of integrity.



And you got that wrong too, it is PKU who was focused only on moguls to brag about it, or you don't know it was PKU who was doing the moguls? If it is former, it is you Whistler group with "baised" "tunnul vision"; and if it is latter, you are a little knowledge, so are you not also lying to yourself to cheat others? So the conclusion, "又一個“自欺欺人,騙自己”的發言,這個論壇上“弱慢”何其多?"

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"總是“自欺欺人,騙自己”的發言,這個論壇上“太極白白”只有一個?",還用罵人來佔口頭便宜? :face (50):

你還是幫那位拍一段下雙黑饅頭的跟拍影片來看看吧,看是你先跟不上,還是他滑下饅頭太慢,這樣的從山頂到山腳也會比較有趣多了。 :face (334):
目前總滑天數80天。繼續累積中...我想滑雪。 :face (292): :face (292): :face (292):

滑雪人

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