snowbender 寫:When you cannot tell the difference between “slipping” and “skidding” your low end knowledge is quite “obvious.” You low-end XSIA instructors CANNOT do slipping, may not even know what a “slipping” is, that's why you low-end instructors keep saying "skid" and look down on it to cover your own incompetance. Is that why that you don’t answer my question? Can you do “controlled slipping”?

Heavenly skiing: a skier’s pilgrimage - YouTube

哈哈，太極，你來來回回就只會「slipping」跟「skidding」，還「Skidding turn is old-school parallel turn」，你還是想辦法滑出胖C彎來改變一下你的眼界吧，還在研究這種初中級的動作，繼續鑽研這兩種，是不可能有突破性進步的。你想要講我如何，就先秀個胖C彎影片，不要再讓我看瘦長C彎啦，那種只是沖坡而已，緩坡沖坡當然不累呀，以前去歐洲滑雪，我們一整團這樣衝了一整天，也沒人累過，一次衝個二十公里才到下一個纜車站都是很平常的事，你才沖那一點點路就在自嗚得意，哈哈！

snowbender 寫: We can do the classic Top-To-Bottom Chinese Downhill race, but I was afraid that you may get lost. Yes, this route is probably the longest run you can ski at Heavenly, I’m not good in your kind of numbers, you have to ski it to find out how long it is, and whether or not you can finish in one shot. And this route is designed to test you “all-mountain” skiing ability, as well as endurance, the cat tracks can be cut, but you may get lost in the cuts (there are several of them), it is not to your advantage, so I say we stay on trail only until the lower gunbarrel as I skied.

Heavenly skiing: Shadow skiing from Dipper Express to Cal Base - YouTube

PKU，我就說了吧，搞不好太極還會拿他的路線說你滑的路線不對來反駁你吧。

snowbender 寫:
No, she is not part of this forum, the race is only between you and me, if you want to get her involve, we can race on her run.

Whitecrane Skiing: Sky Express line and woods, Heavenly - YouTube

As I said, I need to prove you wrong. You said I skied slowlt then her. Then If i ski in shorter time, then you are wrong, she doesn't need to race with me. As I skied in short time than her, I win. I just need to ski the same run in less time, then I win the $250.00

Basically, the run is under the chair of Sky Express, She did more than 11 mins. As long as I did it less than 11 mins I win.

snowbender 寫:No, that program just a gimmick. It takes at least 10 years to train a competent black diamond skier to ski everywhere in the mountains comfortably. Your CSIA’s 6 weeks program can only give people a piece of “paper,” no wonder you low-end CSIA instructors’ quality, as you said, are so low.

How long to train a person skiing black diamond runs all depends. To be able to ski down a black diamond run is not hard. To get down nicely with rhythm down a difficult black run is hard.

"Yes" is not a CSIA program , It's a Whistler program. They just encourage the students to take CSIA course. Canada needs a lot of ski instructors especially on holidays. IT's hard for general public to ski good, therefore to be a L1 L2 instructor is easy. They need cheap labor. The advantage of the system is to let those instructors to get into ski school and get trained by High end instructor so they can be a much better skiers. Whistler got the most L4 instructors across Canada. That's why there are more than 20 Chinese instructor get into the ski school of Whistler this year.They all want to get free lessons from L4.

snowbender 寫:Of course, we ski in such a higher form, “moving without moving [joints],” is too higher than you gappers meager mind can ever grasp, if you don’t miss your appointment, you’ll see it soon enough.

Your form is high, a tall standing form which is very common for self learn skiers. Really high.

Your lower joints, hip joints, knees and ankle are not moving at all. Your shoulder joints, elbow and wrist are very active.

snowbender 寫: My mind is working, but yours not. After presidents week is where schools’ “spring breaks” start, to many people, this is when the “ski season” really start. 24 Feb for race should still be good, right?



For you come here to race, you look very unprepared, hope you have your lodging and transportation to move around Tahoe are settled.

I don't know spring break is so early in California. Our spring break starts mid March.

I booked the hotel before I got my flight tickets. I stay at South Lake Tahoe, my hotel is 1/2 miles from Harvey's casino. There is shuttle from Harvey's to Heavenly. I think transportation won't be hard.

My first day skiing is 23, so 24 is only my second day. So race will be either 25,26

snowbender 寫:

We can do the classic Top-To-Bottom Chinese Downhill race, but I was afraid that you may get lost. Yes, this route is probably the longest run you can ski at Heavenly, I’m not good in your kind of numbers, you have to ski it to find out how long it is, and whether or not you can finish in one shot. And this route is designed to test you “all-mountain” skiing ability, as well as endurance, the cat tracks can be cut, but you may get lost in the cuts (there are several of them), it is not to your advantage, so I say we stay on trail only until the lower gunbarrel as I skied.

Heavenly skiing: Shadow skiing from Dipper Express to Cal Base - YouTube




“The higher you boost, the harder you fall.” I don’t think that you have time to learn all the Heavenly in two days. Really, we haven’t even talk about how we going to find each other?

Whitecrane Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: long radius turns, High Five, Heavenly - YouTube

The route you show is too complicate, for sure I will get lost especially in a race. I am not stupid. To show if I got the ability to do it, I just do a shadow skiing record by go pro.

First of all, I am not doing what you call the Chinese downhill. This term was a term used in a movie call : "Hot Dog" It said the rule is no rule. There is a lot of fighting on the process.
A lot of dirty things happen during the race. I don't want any of this to happen.

Since you know the mountain so well, I'll only choose simple runs. Runs that a stranger won't get lost.

Gunbarrell is good but you said for certain reason we cannot get there.

Then the first 2 days I need to figure out where to race. I am not trying to know the mountains in 2 Days. Will only try to know where I can race so that you cannot take huge advantage.

To meet each other is simple, just tell a time a place ( easy to get there )

I can give you my phone number so you can call me or text message to me once you get to tthe meeting area.

snowbender 寫:沒錯，一個上流人不在網路被下流人罵下流不是上流人‧那是你們下流人典型的言行。



而以你的龜行技術，你只敢在網路上“自拍胸脯”講大話。



我說我滑Ellie’s只要“3+”，你不敢比而找我老婆挑戰？“怕強欺弱”，典型的小技小人的言行。

3+，10分鐘也是3+

那先找你老婆比一場，再找你滑比一場

如果伱說的 3+ 是四分鐘以內，那你老婆要六分鐘，

那這場你代你老婆，時間要小我1/3你才贏，如果小不到我的時間1/3 而仍贏我，便打和，如果我贏，你輸雙倍

如果你老婆慢你那麼多，你有腦也無謂説她滑得怎麼怎麼，我講是要証明你講話無根據，我未去你自己已經証明，如果你要證明我錯，那便這樣賭，

這樣賭是最合理，又不用找你老婆出面。

對不起，我說我比你老婆快，要伱時間快 1/3那麼多那我就是講說不算數，那你就要快我1/4，這樣公道啦

pku 寫:How long to train a person skiing black diamond runs all depends. To be able to ski down a black diamond run is not hard. To get down nicely with rhythm down a difficult black run is hard.

That’s correct; do you think that Norman meets that requirement? I, too, hold you responsible for your words.

Norman 5 moguls challenges - YouTube

"Yes" is not a CSIA program , It's a Whistler program. They just encourage the students to take CSIA course. Canada needs a lot of ski instructors especially on holidays. IT's hard for general public to ski good, therefore to be a L1 L2 instructor is easy. They need cheap labor. The advantage of the system is to let those instructors to get into ski school and get trained by High end instructor so they can be a much better skiers. Whistler got the most L4 instructors across Canada. That's why there are more than 20 Chinese instructor get into the ski school of Whistler this year.They all want to get free lessons from L4.

Business gimmicks. Some statistic reported that more 80% [American] skiers give up lesions after they reach 6 grade/parallel turns. Most of hot-shots you see on the slopes are self-made.

Your form is high, a tall standing form which is very common for self learn skiers. Really high.

My form is high, because I don’t use muscles to hold it down, totally relax, not just natural, but effective and efficient. Why? You don’t have to think about where all your body parts are, they’ll function automatically.

Your lower joints, hip joints, knees and ankle are not moving at all. Your shoulder joints, elbow and wrist are very active.

My head is not moving. And no “bending” joint movements, only COM moves, that is THE simplest form of skiing, yes, it is high class skiing.

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: long turns, short turns, and turn on demand - YouTube



When you learn the term “ski with Qi/氣” you’ll be even more bewilder.

pku 寫:The route you show is too complicate, for sure I will get lost especially in a race. I am not stupid. To show if I got the ability to do it, I just do a shadow skiing record by go pro.

That will do, the requirement is from Dipper Express to Cal base and no lift ride, so you need to find your own path down the mountain, you can try it with your gopro, you may learn more about yourself in this run than in any other run.

First of all, I am not doing what you call the Chinese downhill. This term was a term used in a movie call : "Hot Dog" It said the rule is no rule. There is a lot of fighting on the process.
A lot of dirty things happen during the race. I don't want any of this to happen.

No, we are not talking about that kind of race, those kind of things only happened in movie. By Chinese Downhill I mean, the original meaning, Top-to-Bottom, choose your own path, first one crosses the finish line wins. If we honest, we can determine who wins at the end. And we don’t have an organization to organize a formal race, and how do we determine who crosses the finish line first?

Since you know the mountain so well, I'll only choose simple runs. Runs that a stranger won't get lost.

Gunbarrell is good but you said for certain reason we cannot get there.

Gunbarrel is accessible, just not on the route I suggested (no lift). If you want to race on Gunbarrel, we can do that as well. In fact, we can do all the races you original proposed, but if you only race on weekend, that is a tough proposal, we have to dodge the weekend flatlanders, and the mountain safeties/yellow jackets who would chase you down and issue you a speeding ticket, or kick you out of resort if they determine that you are "reckless skiing."

Then the first 2 days I need to figure out where to race. I am not trying to know the mountains in 2 Days. Will only try to know where I can race so that you cannot take huge advantage.

I can show you around, but that would expose my techniques before the race, and you hotshot probably want to find out yourself. Call me if you need help.

To meet each other is simple, just tell a time a place ( easy to get there )

I can give you my phone number so you can call me or text message to me once you get to tthe meeting area.

Call me when you get to Tahoe, my number is on my website.

http://taomartialarts.com/sch/school.html

snowbender 寫:That’s correct; do you think that Norman meets that requirement? I, too, hold you responsible for your words.

Norman 5 moguls challenges - YouTube

你的無知，十頭牛都拉不回來。

snowbender 寫:My head is not moving. And no “bending” joint movements, only COM moves, that is THE simplest form of skiing, yes, it is high class skiing.

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: long turns, short turns, and turn on demand - YouTube


When you learn the term “ski with Qi/氣” you’ll be even more bewilder.

你只要一做轉彎的動作，就搖頭晃腦的，哪裏不動了？

你對頭不動的定義實在是......

snowbender 寫:That’s correct; do you think that Norman meets that requirement? I, too, hold you responsible for your words.

Norman 5 moguls challenges - YouTube




Business gimmicks. Some statistic reported that more 80% [American] skiers give up lesions after they reach 6 grade/parallel turns. Most of hot-shots you see on the slopes are self-made.



My form is high, because I don’t use muscles to hold it down, totally relax, not just natural, but effective and efficient. Why? You don’t have to think about where all your body parts are, they’ll function automatically.



My head is not moving. And no “bending” joint movements, only COM moves, that is THE simplest form of skiing, yes, it is high class skiing.

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: long turns, short turns, and turn on demand - YouTube


When you learn the term “ski with Qi/氣” you’ll be even more bewilder.

I think Norman can get down black runs on regular snow condition without problem.
It really depend how fast he can get down

That moguls run is a very tough one. Even my L4 friend won't try because he's on a pair of long wide rocker skis last time he's there.
The best 1 of the 2 skiers of the Australian from team also said it's like thousands of needle pinching into his thigh when skiing that line. It's less than 60 turns

The way you ski to certain extend is not too demanding for the body 好多間 duty free 都有

Most people are not talented. Very rare self learn people can be a very good skier without proper training . People with a race background get a lot of advantage

snowbender 寫:That will do, the requirement is from Dipper Express to Cal base and no lift ride, so you need to find your own path down the mountain, you can try it with your gopro, you may learn more about yourself in this run than in any other run.



No, we are not talking about that kind of race, those kind of things only happened in movie. By Chinese Downhill I mean, the original meaning, Top-to-Bottom, choose your own path, first one crosses the finish line wins. If we honest, we can determine who wins at the end. And we don’t have an organization to organize a formal race, and how do we determine who crosses the finish line first?



Gunbarrel is accessible, just not on the route I suggested (no lift). If you want to race on Gunbarrel, we can do that as well. In fact, we can do all the races you original proposed, but if you only race on weekend, that is a tough proposal, we have to dodge the weekend flatlanders, and the mountain safeties/yellow jackets who would chase you down and issue you a speeding ticket, or kick you out of resort if they determine that you are "reckless skiing."



I can show you around, but that would expose my techniques before the race, and you hotshot probably want to find out yourself. Call me if you need help.



Call me when you get to Tahoe, my number is on my website.

http://taomartialarts.com/sch/school.html

If you don't want me to see his you ski, then I just ski down first and you shut when I get to the wrong way

Maybe you can take some videos of me skiing down Ellie's and under the Ski Express

I really want to ski the Gunbarrel that's also why I go yo Heavenly

pku 寫: I really want to ski the Gunbarrel that's also why I go yo Heavenly

如果有機會的話，一定要拍一段來看。

pku 寫:As I said, I need to prove you wrong. You said I skied slowlt then her. Then If i ski in shorter time, then you are wrong, she doesn't need to race with me. As I skied in short time than her, I win. I just need to ski the same run in less time, then I win the $250.00

No, she skied that route was not in racing mode, and that run was actually the first time she was on that route, due to the drought, that place hasn’t been opened for years. You can see she fumbled on choosing the tree line. And for $250 for sure you would just “bomb” down like those snowboarders, that is not a race nor skillful.

Whitecrane Skiing: Lower Canyon, Heavenly - YouTube



Which also raises another question about our races, are you going to ski down skillfully and gracefully, or you just bomb down for the money?

Basically, the run is under the chair of Sky Express, She did more than 11 mins. As long as I did it less than 11 mins I win.

I thought I’ve shown you that I skied that same line in less than 6 minutes?

Taichi Skiing: shadow skiing Sky Express, Heavenly - YouTube



Don’t hide behind my wife.

pku 寫:I think Norman can get down black runs on regular snow condition without problem.
It really depend how fast he can get down

No, I was not talking about whether or he can “get down” but “ski down” “nicely with rhythm”; no, I don’t think he can ever get to there.

That moguls run is a very tough one. Even my L4 friend won't try because he's on a pair of long wide rocker skis last time he's there.
The best 1 of the 2 skiers of the Australian from team also said it's like thousands of needle pinching into his thigh when skiing that line. It's less than 60 turns

Mogul run is tough only because it is “physical” demanding not “skills”; the highest skill in skiing, imo, is “pure carve,” your L4 can pure carve but his 60+ years old legs won’t do the moguls, his/your style of mogul skiing use too much “knees,” see how long you’re going to last.

The way you ski to certain extend is not too demanding for the body 好多間 duty free 都有

It is not whether the movements demanding or not but how you get down hill that counts. In practice for our coming meeting, I find out if I try rush I lost my “rhythm” and ski badly on bumps (that’s why I said Norman would never get there, he has no idea what a “rhythm” is), only when I slow down my extention, I can catch the “rhythm” of bumps and ski comfortably down. Thanks to your challenge, my bump run now is better than a week ago.

Most people are not talented. Very rare self learn people can be a very good skier without proper training . People with a race background get a lot of advantage

Maybe it is, for you city folks. What we here seeing is a lot of seven/eight year old kids yell, “hurry up, mom.”

pku 寫:If you don't want me to see his you ski, then I just ski down first and you shut when I get to the wrong way

Maybe you can take some videos of me skiing down Ellie's and under the Ski Express

I really want to ski the Gunbarrel that's also why I go yo Heavenly

So much postering, you don’t have to challenge me for a race to ski with me. Racing and skiing are two different things; in racing, “speed” doesn’t represent “skills,” only in regular skiing, one can show off one’s skiing skills more truly. Those things sound more fun than racing. Ok, we do that, I’ll take you videos, maybe you can take mine too. Your time is short, maybe we do it on next Wednesday, which is forcasted snow. Call me or PM me to make arrangement.

snowbender 寫:So much postering, you don’t have to challenge me for a race to ski with me. Racing and skiing are two different things; in racing, “speed” doesn’t represent “skills,” only in regular skiing, one can show off one’s skiing skills more truly. Those things sound more fun than racing. Ok, we do that, I’ll take you videos, maybe you can take mine too. Your time is short, maybe we do it on next Wednesday, which is forcasted snow. Call me or PM me to make arrangement.

I'll message you once my US phone number works+1 (267) 312-4573

pku 寫:I'll message you once my US phone number works+1 (267) 312-4573

Weather report: snow and wintry mix are forecast through next Wednesday. Winter storm warning is in effect from 10 pm Sunday through 4am Tuesday. Snow level, about 7500’, 2 to 5 “feet,” 6500’ to 7500’, 8” to 24”, at lake level (6200’) 6”. The numbers maybe exaggerated/maybe not, but it’s going to be massy skiing, get ready for heavy powder skiing.

I'll call you on that number Tuesday night, if we haven't connected.

snowbender 寫:Weather report: snow and wintry mix are forecast through next Wednesday. Winter storm warning is in effect from 10 pm Sunday through 4am Tuesday. Snow level, about 7500’, 2 to 5 “feet,” 6500’ to 7500’, 8” to 24”, at lake level (6200’) 6”. The numbers maybe exaggerated/maybe not, but it’s going to be massy skiing, get ready for heavy powder skiing.

I'll call you on that number Tuesday night, if we haven't connected.

I am coming Wednesday evening. My phone should start working around 8:00am Wednesday morning when I arrive at Seattle. 2 stop over with 2 hours at each transfer.

Will start skiing Heavenly Thursday.

snowbender 寫:Weather report: snow and wintry mix are forecast through next Wednesday. Winter storm warning is in effect from 10 pm Sunday through 4am Tuesday. Snow level, about 7500’, 2 to 5 “feet,” 6500’ to 7500’, 8” to 24”, at lake level (6200’) 6”. The numbers maybe exaggerated/maybe not, but it’s going to be massy skiing, get ready for heavy powder skiing.

I'll call you on that number Tuesday night, if we haven't connected.

Looks like I am really lucky. more than 2 foot of powder today and tomorrow.

The condition on Eliie's should be more powdery than the video of your wife skiing there. Should be much tougher condition.

pku 寫:I am coming Wednesday evening. My phone should start working around 8:00am Wednesday morning when I arrive at Seattle. 2 stop over with 2 hours at each transfer.

Will start skiing Heavenly Thursday.

One day late? Alright, you may have just avoided the worst of this winter storm. It was forecasted “rain” today for South Lake Tahoe, and it turned out snowed all day, and the heavy precipitation, rain and snow, has yet to come through tonight, and snow will linger through Wednesday. Thursday cloudy, Friday sunny, and the weekend, snow resume.

I’ll ski with my wife on Thursday, so I’ll ski with you on Friday. (Are you alone?) We can meet at the entrance of Gunbarrel Express (chair lift) at 10am Friday. Gunbarrel Express is the only lift out of Cal Base heading up mountain, below is the ever famous “Gunbarrel,” you might want to check it out yourself, not sure about the moguls, but the snow going to be thick.

I’ll call you Thursday night to confirm our meeting time and place.