Flatboarding vs. Skiing

管他是好咖還是怪咖,只要是咖就能發言,有任何技術問題,在此討論就對啦。

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#41 回覆: Flatboarding vs. Skiing

文章 pku » 週六 1月 10, 2015 4:48 am

taichiskiing 寫:That means you know neither what is “angulation” nor “incline.” Flatboarding also use “inside ski turn,”as well as “open turn,”and in the clip there're also 270 degree turn, do you know where they are and what they are used for? You have much more need to learn.

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On 00:30, from inclination to angulation.

00:35 is more obvious

Both timethe high C is so obvious, that's high end skiing
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#42 回覆: Flatboarding vs. Skiing

文章 taichiskiing » 週六 1月 10, 2015 5:18 am

pku 寫:on 0:06, you lean inside the turn too much and your outside ski slip out. One should face the reality otherwise will be like you, a guy skiing for more than 30 can not make smooth turns other than gentle grrom runs :face (340): :face (340): :face (340):
With recovery? That is “skillful.”And you can only see first 6 seconds in 2:41 min clip? yup, that's “Tunnel Vision.” :face (340): :face (340): :face (340):

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#43 回覆: Flatboarding vs. Skiing

文章 taichiskiing » 週六 1月 10, 2015 5:25 am

pku 寫:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZkDeYmuNJU

On 00:30, from inclination to angulation.

00:35 is more obvious

Both timethe high C is so obvious, that's high end skiing
What you call “high C”/“high end”maneuvers, I call “拙力太多”‧ Real “expert skiers” don't do “high C,”only make smooth turns.

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#44 回覆: Flatboarding vs. Skiing

文章 pku » 週六 1月 10, 2015 6:13 am

taichiskiing 寫:With recovery? That is “skillful.”And you can only see first 6 seconds in 2:41 min clip? yup, that's “Tunnel Vision.” :face (340): :face (340): :face (340):

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You need to do recovery so often even on a easy run. That's why you cannot ski smoothly once the terrain gets a bit difficult.

An expert only need to do recovery movement occasionally but an intermediate skier need to do recovery movement all the time. Although both people can get down the hill safely most of the time.
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#45 回覆: Flatboarding vs. Skiing

文章 pku » 週六 1月 10, 2015 6:20 am

taichiskiing 寫:What you call “high C”/“high end”maneuvers, I call “拙力太多”‧ Real “expert skiers” don't do “high C,”only make smooth turns.

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To be able to make the high C is the way of using the energy from turn to turn. That's the way of really making use of gravity and the equipment. That's what high end skiing , efficient skiing about.

你不懂怎樣做當然會用很多力,所以人家是高手,而你只是個可憐自讚自的頑固老人
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#46 回覆: Flatboarding vs. Skiing

文章 norman » 週六 1月 10, 2015 8:46 am

taichiskiing 寫:你要是自己能轉的話你不會偷用他人的影片來表示自己會,就說我知道你比你知道你自己更清楚吧!



想你也是不知道什麼是“total/complete edge control”,前面已經說過,光會打轉不是技術,還危險(容易卡邊,而卡邊鐵摔);“total/complete edge control”是“全然邊沿的控制”,而“邊沿的控制”決定滑線的去向和滑雪的效率,所以是滑雪上最重要的一個技術,“全然邊沿的控制”更是,但是你小知不知道這種關係,所以也看不懂我的影片。



說的沒錯,你是“不會做,不會看...等”,你只看到我在打轉,但是我滑的是在轉大彎/GS turn的S-turn上作個內旋三百六和外旋三百六,但是你連看都“看不懂”你會做是你的“幻想”‧

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你以為你也能打轉你就可以跟我比?你沒有“討論”,只是“酸人自酸”。

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依你的說法,那我請你拍段用雪杖下直線饅頭,你怎麼不拍,所以我也能說,你根本就不會用雪杖下饅頭,對吧?

就算我會轉,我也懶得拍,何必你說一種,我就要找時間拍一段給你看?

依你的想法來說,你不會用雪杖好好滑雪,你幹嘛貼別人的影片來講?因為你不會嘛,所以我可以很肯定說你不會用雪杖滑雪,因為我知道比你知道你自己更明白。對吧?

誰要跟你比打轉呀,我拿的是那十幾天就會打轉的來跟你比,所以問你們兩個差別在哪裏,你老是說我要跟你比,我哪比得上你做數十年的打轉功力呢。

我是沒在跟你討論呀,我是在問你們兩人有何差別,這是請教你問題,我實在不知你在酸什麼。 :face (41):
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#47 回覆: Flatboarding vs. Skiing

文章 norman » 週六 1月 10, 2015 8:50 am

taichiskiing 寫:所以你不知道自己講什麼?是你自己“精神病發作”了。

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我跟別人講話,你又知道我在講什麼了? :face (41):


你跟別人講話提罵我,我有去接你的話嗎?你自己要來自辱,當然是精神病發作了。沒跟你講話,你要自己撞進來,就是承認自己有病囉。 :tusky (74):
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#48 回覆: Flatboarding vs. Skiing

文章 taichiskiing » 週六 1月 10, 2015 12:08 pm

pku 寫:You need to do recovery so often even on a easy run. That's why you cannot ski smoothly once the terrain gets a bit difficult.
Of course, if you only have the capacity to watch for 6 seconds, you wouldn't know what “smooth”really is, and you cannot even ski smoothly on an easy run. That's why you can only hide on a mogul hill to do your short turns to brag about it.
An expert only need to do recovery movement occasionally but an intermediate skier need to do recovery movement all the time. Although both people can get down the hill safely most of the time.
Yes, we have seen quite a bit of examples on this forum. Nevertheless, let's see what you can do?

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: Maggie's Canyon, the gully, Heavenly - YouTube



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#49 回覆: Flatboarding vs. Skiing

文章 taichiskiing » 週六 1月 10, 2015 12:12 pm

pku 寫:To be able to make the high C is the way of using the energy from turn to turn. That's the way of really making use of gravity and the equipment. That's what high end skiing , efficient skiing about.
Not high end enough, you have to (or being forced) to “turn” to ski the high C, you have already lost the “forward” speed.
你不懂怎樣做當然會用很多力,所以人家是高手,而你只是個可憐自讚自的頑固老人
I don't have to ski that “hard,” and I don't have to "cheat" myself.

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: flatskiing - YouTube



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#50 回覆: Flatboarding vs. Skiing

文章 taichiskiing » 週六 1月 10, 2015 12:20 pm

norman 寫:依你的說法,那我請你拍段用雪杖下直線饅頭,你怎麼不拍,所以我也能說,你根本就不會用雪杖下饅頭,對吧?

就算我會轉,我也懶得拍,何必你說一種,我就要找時間拍一段給你看?

依你的想法來說,你不會用雪杖好好滑雪,你幹嘛貼別人的影片來講?因為你不會嘛,所以我可以很肯定說你不會用雪杖滑雪,因為我知道比你知道你自己更明白。對吧?

誰要跟你比打轉呀,我拿的是那十幾天就會打轉的來跟你比,所以問你們兩個差別在哪裏,你老是說我要跟你比,我哪比得上你做數十年的打轉功力呢。

我是沒在跟你討論呀,我是在問你們兩人有何差別,這是請教你問題,我實在不知你在酸什麼。 :face (41):

我也告訴你“答案”是什麼了,你小知“看不懂”,剩下的是你“酸人自酸”。

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#51 回覆: Flatboarding vs. Skiing

文章 taichiskiing » 週六 1月 10, 2015 12:22 pm

norman 寫:我跟別人講話,你又知道我在講什麼了? :face (41):


你跟別人講話提罵我,我有去接你的話嗎?你自己要來自辱,當然是精神病發作了。沒跟你講話,你要自己撞進來,就是承認自己有病囉。 :tusky (74):
你是說“太極三差”不是你說的?又要說又不敢承認,“不要臉”,典型的小人‧你要來“撞頭”,我的“柱子”總是開放的,就隨便你發不發“精神病”,請。

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#52 回覆: Flatboarding vs. Skiing

文章 norman » 週六 1月 10, 2015 12:47 pm

taichiskiing 寫:我也告訴你“答案”是什麼了,你小知“看不懂”,剩下的是你“酸人自酸”。

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所以我問你啦,是不是拍做了轉圈圈的動作就是代表會「“total/complete edge control”是“全然邊沿的控制”的高級動作」?

你沒回答我是不是,又在講小人小知看不懂,酸人自酸,你就不能好好針對我的提問回答嗎?何必閃問題呢?
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#53 回覆: Flatboarding vs. Skiing

文章 norman » 週六 1月 10, 2015 12:58 pm

taichiskiing 寫:你是說“太極三差”不是你說的?又要說又不敢承認,“不要臉”,典型的小人‧你要來“撞頭”,我的“柱子”總是開放的,就隨便你發不發“精神病”,請。

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我是對你講嗎?我記得我是跟PKU講的,你是PKU嗎?

你要自己發神精插話進來回應承認自己是太極三差臭腳布也行呀。

別忘了你對生魚片的解釋,沒針對誰呀,你的帳號是「太極」嗎?你要自己撞柱子,我也攔不住你。

所以不覺得你老是在回他人的話,還要順帶罵我兩句,是多餘的嗎?如果不是順帶在損我,那我現在損那位太極三差臭腳布關你何事?

所以你確實是太極三差臭腳布?太極三差臭腳布!!!
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#54 回覆: Flatboarding vs. Skiing

文章 pku » 週六 1月 10, 2015 6:55 pm

taichiskiing 寫:Not high end enough, you have to (or being forced) to “turn” to ski the high C, you have already lost the “forward” speed.



I don't have to ski that “hard,” and I don't have to "cheat" myself.

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: flatskiing - YouTube


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You don't know how to do so the fact is you cannot do it. Poor old man :face (44):

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#55 回覆: Flatboarding vs. Skiing

文章 pku » 週六 1月 10, 2015 6:57 pm

taichiskiing 寫:Of course, if you only have the capacity to watch for 6 seconds, you wouldn't know what “smooth”really is, and you cannot even ski smoothly on an easy run. That's why you can only hide on a mogul hill to do your short turns to brag about it.



Yes, we have seen quite a bit of examples on this forum. Nevertheless, let's see what you can do?

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: Maggie's Canyon, the gully, Heavenly - YouTube


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It's not easy to find a guy like you who post so many video of your poor skiing skill :face (50):

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#56 回覆: Flatboarding vs. Skiing

文章 taichiskiing » 週六 1月 10, 2015 10:15 pm

norman 寫:所以我問你啦,是不是拍做了轉圈圈的動作就是代表會「“total/complete edge control”是“全然邊沿的控制”的高級動作」?
我給你的答案“光會打轉不是技術”你那個字看不懂?
你沒回答我是不是,又在講小人小知看不懂,酸人自酸,你就不能好好針對我的提問回答嗎?何必閃問題呢?
你的知識浮淺,給你答案你也看不懂,你不是“小知”是什麼?你以為能在綠線上打轉就是“高級動作”?你提出的問題是你“小人”不服氣的強辯,你的“酸人自酸”。

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#57 回覆: Flatboarding vs. Skiing

文章 taichiskiing » 週六 1月 10, 2015 10:17 pm

norman 寫:我是對你講嗎?我記得我是跟PKU講的,你是PKU嗎?

你要自己發神精插話進來回應承認自己是太極三差臭腳布也行呀。

別忘了你對生魚片的解釋,沒針對誰呀,你的帳號是「太極」嗎?你要自己撞柱子,我也攔不住你。
早說過,你要是說的是私人資訊用私人email,你要是放在這論壇上說那是跟大家說,那也是跟我說,你只是想“指桑罵揆”佔個口頭上的便宜‧真正的人家回應你,你又不敢承認,對,““不要臉”,典型的“小人””。
所以不覺得你老是在回他人的話,還要順帶罵我兩句,是多餘的嗎?如果不是順帶在損我,那我現在損那位太極三差臭腳布關你何事?

所以你確實是太極三差臭腳布?太極三差臭腳布!!!
而這個論壇上大家都知道“太極”指的是誰,所以“太極三差臭腳布”只是你“下流人”“無恥”的辱罵‧

“下流的發言,下流人。”

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#58 回覆: Flatboarding vs. Skiing

文章 taichiskiing » 週六 1月 10, 2015 10:21 pm

pku 寫:You don't know how to do so the fact is you cannot do it. Poor old man :face (44):
I can say the same thing to you, poor CSIA L2.

Get pissed by my videos? Yup, little knowledge gets irritated easily.

Good skiing.

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: slow line fast - YouTube



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#59 回覆: Flatboarding vs. Skiing

文章 taichiskiing » 週六 1月 10, 2015 10:23 pm

pku 寫:It's not easy to find a guy like you who post so many video of your poor skiing skill :face (50):
It's not easy to find a CSIA L2 with such poor MA skill, couldn’t understand my videos even after watched so many videos.

This one has few turns in it, maybe easier for you, but I doubt you can comprehend what it means.

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: carving on flat boards - YouTube



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#60 回覆: Flatboarding vs. Skiing

文章 pku » 週六 1月 10, 2015 11:37 pm

taichiskiing 寫:I can say the same thing to you, poor CSIA L2.

Get pissed by my videos? Yup, little knowledge gets irritated easily.

Good skiing.

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: slow line fast - YouTube


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你的片放來放去,我那會看,恥笑下你,開心下,

知道是你的片,那有人會去看,頑固老人省點罷

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