為什麼 wedge 不好? 有什麼不好?

[Observer]

這好像不太對，要比的是你，應該由你提出一個公平且能驗證技術的方法，否則依照 norman 的標準，他要比的是優雅，你要不要跟 norman 比？

Are people not tired of trying to see who is better in skiing?

So one is better, so what? 一山還有比一山高.

Let us not be childish.

[lelo]

Carver like to compete skiing fast with other people especially on the ski.com.tw
I said I can ski down from Whistler Round House to the village in 7 minutes and he post his video of his carving on a short and poportionally make calculation of his time need to do the same run like mine and boost he is faster.

這段恩怨我倒是不知。所以 beg 代你挑戰？

When carver post this post because he saw and wedge happen in a CSIA L2 skiing and just want to tease CSIA guys. No one can freeski with 2 skis parallel at all time.

這一篇他好像沒這個意思，不過你不能否認 carver 說的是事實吧？他確實在影片裏見到 wege。這就跟我驚訝滑 50 天就能拿到 L1 一樣，他拿來講應該也很合理。

carver 問的是 CSIA L2 為什麼還有 wege，你們卻要跟他比以證明 CSIA 夠行，好像沒必要每次有爭論就擺出擂台來見高下吧？

[lelo]

Are people not tired of trying to see who is better in skiing?

So one is better, so what? 一山還有比一山高.

Let us not be childish.

我就光比速度證明不了什麼啊！贏了 carver 就表示 XSIA 比 PMTS 好嗎？

[pku]

我就光比速度證明不了什麼啊！贏了 carver 就表示 XSIA 比 PMTS 好嗎？

First of all, carver never take a pmts course. He just claim himself a pmts student.

[pku]

這段恩怨我倒是不知。所以 beg 代你挑戰？



這一篇他好像沒這個意思，不過你不能否認 carver 說的是事實吧？他確實在影片裏見到 wege。這就跟我驚訝滑 50 天就能拿到 L1 一樣，他拿來講應該也很合理。

carver 問的是 CSIA L2 為什麼還有 wege，你們卻要跟他比以證明 CSIA 夠行，好像沒必要每次有爭論就擺出擂台來見高下吧？

作者: ams
The trouble here is all nearer and visible turns are wedge turns. I wonder weather it's a core skill in CSIA. This guy is aiming for L3 already. And a respected member said:


So I think this guy is at least level 2.5 and is making wedge turns all the way.

What do you think carver means about those words I highlight in blue.


Beg didn't know this 恩怨 and may be carve also didn't remember

If you see video of the CSIA L4 , you can capture the wedge happen too.

[pku]

這好像不太對，要比的是你，應該由你提出一個公平且能驗證技術的方法，否則依照 norman 的標準，他要比的是優雅，你要不要跟 norman 比？

Norman ski good on the gentle groom run. His short turn on that run can bit some CSIA L2 but just he can only do that on that kind of run and the exam are on steeper runs. His form is totally off once the terain and snow got slightly more difficult.

[pku]

Are people not tired of trying to see who is better in skiing?

So one is better, so what? 一山還有比一山高.

Let us not be childish.

Seeing who is better is part of all sport. I think to better oneself is also very important in sport.

一山還有一山高 is true .

[pku]

I know you meant 高兩班 in his technique. But most L4 are very good already--高兩班 is a bit of exaggeration, No?

I took Ryan's PDP with my daughter and she also said Ryan's skiing is very so so. If Ryan ski with Kevin ( the one on Grouse with you ) . You can see the difference right away. Kevin is much better.

That's why you need to come to ski in Canada more often and take some lessons with those L4. I'll join the lessons with you as long as you give me a big discount on my part.

[beg]

我怎麼敢跟 l3 比？我說的當然是指 carver(ams)、beg跟我這種水平的，現在如果是剛壓過雪的雪道，我用體重飆就有勝算，如果是亂雪(crud)地型，就來個全制動直線飆，鹿死誰手還很難講。

比什麼也可以，只耍 all mountain skier except mogul 大師不歸縮就行

這好像不太對，要比的是你，應該由你提出一個公平且能驗證技術的方法，否則依照 norman 的標準，他要比的是優雅，你要不要跟 norman 比？

這好像不太對,認屎認屁撩事鬥非的是他、我不知你的體重理論對不對、他想比最慢也可以。

[beg]

這段恩怨我倒是不知。所以 beg 代你挑戰？



這一篇他好像沒這個意思，不過你不能否認 carver 說的是事實吧？他確實在影片裏見到 wege。這就跟我驚訝滑 50 天就能拿到 L1 一樣，他拿來講應該也很合理。

carver 問的是 CSIA L2 為什麼還有 wege，你們卻要跟他比以證明 CSIA 夠行，好像沒必要每次有爭論就擺出擂台來見高下吧？

他認屎認屁撩事鬥非的ー段己給ＣＲＡＺＹ　ＮＯＲＭＡＮ拿掉，所以你看不見的．

[CrazyBoy]

他認屎認屁撩事鬥非的ー段己給ＣＲＡＺＹ　ＮＯＲＭＡＮ拿掉，所以你看不見的．

自己找不到，又在隨便誣賴人了。

[Observer]

Seeing who is better is part of all sport. I think to better oneself is also very important in sport.

一山還有一山高 is true .

Yes, better onself in any sport is important, so that one will enjoy the sport better, but why try to put someone else down just being better, or think one is better.

When people ski together, one will know right away. So one is better so what? Depending on the training and be able to learn and practice will certainly make one better depending on interest, and dedication.

Some excel in playing instruments like piano or violen and risen to the world stage. Some are good in one thing while the other on something else.

We are all just recreational skiers, not close by a wide margin to the WC standard. Unless one is 'gifted' and dedicated to the sport and be in the world standard going for the WC racing or Olympics. We should just discuss for improvement sake and not trying to 'outdo' the other, especially on paper.

If Taichiskiing think that he is good or even better than CSIA or PSIA, fine, let him be. And that will end the unnecessary arguments or even foul mouth.

[pku]

Yes, better onself in any sport is important, so that one will enjoy the sport better, but why try to put someone else down just being better, or think one is better.

When people ski together, one will know right away. So one is better so what? Depending on the training and be able to learn and practice will certainly make one better depending on interest, and dedication.

Some excel in playing instruments like piano or violen and risen to the world stage. Some are good in one thing while the other on something else.

We are all just recreational skiers, not close by a wide margin to the WC standard. Unless one is 'gifted' and dedicated to the sport and be in the world standard going for the WC racing or Olympics. We should just discuss for improvement sake and not trying to 'outdo' the other, especially on paper.

If Taichiskiing think that he is good or even better than CSIA or PSIA, fine, let him be. And that will end the unnecessary arguments or even foul mouth.

I respect my target most of the time. But for those who 認屎認屁, then

You are a nice guy and already 看化, that is why you won't agree with us.

Just like my son's tablle tennis competition , in their world , there is also people 認屎認屁 but only those who can beat him can stop them from 認屎認屁.

[taichiskiing]

小知小人:

Good skiing is about efficient turning, less energy loss, fast skiing. Wedge turn is not efficient and is the lower level of skiing. Just to ski with both ski turning the same time with the same amount is almost imposssible.

說你自己小知‧ You are "talking" about "efficient turning," but you don't know "what" "efficient turning" is or what for, and all the turns you've shown none is "efficient turning," just look at all those spreads, why? You didn't want those turns to be too efficience, so you skidded to brake, so "efficient turning" is not always needed, the "wedge turn" serves the same function as your skidding. Wedge turn has its function and purpose.

YouTube - Flatboarding: Powder skiing, Zachary, Kirkwood

Wedge turn, stem stun, basic parallel, advance paralle, basic short turn, advance short turn.
They are the progession.

Slow progression makes good money for the ski school.

Just live kinder garden, primary school, secondary school, high school, college, Master , PHD.

One can be happy for finishing primary school and star working. Just don't saypeople keep student is stupid.

Care to readdress it? It doesn't make sense.

You only know how to tranverse and your skiing is so slow but boosting it as high end skiing.

That's only your little knowledge's shameless denial, and you havn't shown any clip faster than mine, nor responding to any of my clips implied challenge, but keep thinking how high end you are, because you are what, L1? You are here to boast your ignorance and arrogance/小知小人。

:)
IS

[pku]

說你自己小知‧ You are "talking" about "efficient turning," but you don't know "what" "efficient turning" is or what for, and all the turns you've shown none is "efficient turning," just look at all those spreads, why? You didn't want those turns to be too efficience, so you skidded to brake, so "efficient turning" is not always needed, the "wedge turn" serves the same function as your skidding. Wedge turn has its function and purpose.

YouTube - Flatboarding: Powder skiing, Zachary, Kirkwood




Slow progression makes good money for the ski school.



Care to readdress it? It doesn't make sense.



That's only your little knowledge's shameless denial, and you havn't shown any clip faster than mine, nor responding to any of my clips implied challenge, but keep thinking how high end you are, because you are what, L1? You are here to boast your ignorance and arrogance/小知小人。

:)
IS

L1 is still better than someone got kick out by their country's ski association

Even I ski so much faster than you: 53 second against 7 minutes, you still boost you ski fast.

Wait for me, I've already got sponsor for my trip so I can ski in your resort for a week to know the mountain and I'll choose the run to PK with you. Of course I'll bring the cash. Just make sure your rich friend really give you the money at the time I am there.

[pku]

自己找不到，又在隨便誣賴人了。

I find it from Skier 888's reply quoting Carver's statement It may not be you who deleted it, may be carver himself.

引用:
作者: ams
The trouble here is all nearer and visible turns are wedge turns. I wonder weather it's a core skill in CSIA. This guy is aiming for L3 already. And a respected member said:


So I think this guy is at least level 2.5 and is making wedge turns all the way.


here is the thread:
http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/...m-a-for-csia-3

You are too smart to post that if you want to have a real technical discussion.

[CrazyBoy]

I find it from Skier 888's reply quoting Carver's statement It may not be you who deleted it, may be carver himself.

引用:
作者: ams
The trouble here is all nearer and visible turns are wedge turns. I wonder weather it's a core skill in CSIA. This guy is aiming for L3 already. And a respected member said:


So I think this guy is at least level 2.5 and is making wedge turns all the way.


here is the thread:
http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/...m-a-for-csia-3

You are too smart to post that if you want to have a real technical discussion.

你指的是下面這一個嗎？在這個討論串第6篇回言。
http://www.goski.com.tw/forum/showpost. ... ostcount=6


其他被檢舉移走成新的討論串在下面這裏。
http://www.goski.com.tw/forum/showthread.php?t=639

[skier888]

First of all, carver never take a pmts course. He just claim himself a pmts student.

I think you don't have to take a pmts course to qualify as a pmts skier. Unfortunately, pmts is not a magic bullet. one still needs to get good coaching to really improve significantly

[skier888]

光比快好像不太公平吧？

我在綠線上的速度可以追上 l2 的教練，因為我體重有 200lb，她們可能只有我一半重，她們在拼命加速時，我跟在後面還得稍稍減速，不然就撞上她們了！

體重應該跟加速無關吧，它只會讓你減速比較費力

如果不像比賽一樣設旗門的話，最可能發生的狀況應該是雙方都直線往下飆，而且這時候全制動是最保險的姿勢，因為只要賭對方摔一次就贏了！我在白馬五龍跟團友滑時，我做大迴轉就跟不上團友全制動直線飆，這樣比好像沒意義吧？

全制動直線飆在綠道可以，陡一點的就不行了。既然是全制動，爲何又是直線飆

[beg]

自己找不到，又在隨便誣賴人了。

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