Here he is pushing his limit on a high performance skis on a steep pitch with high edge angle, very fast.
About the back seat, sure, but that is not a static position. He is not back seat all the time. The situation he is in also caused it to be worst than it should be
#50 回覆: rebound的感覺是假的
發表於 : 週五 4月 27, 2012 2:53 am
由 skier888
pku 寫:He should face the direction of travel. My eyes are not so good so can't really comment too detail.
To me, too much counter balance is not really a problem. Even it is, it is much easier to fix than to have not enough. What do you think?
pku 寫: He should face the direction of travel. My eyes are not so good so can't really comment too detail.
This is PMTS style skiing so there is some difference. There are several coaches present including HH and his wife when this video was taken.
#51 回覆: rebound的感覺是假的
發表於 : 週五 4月 27, 2012 3:09 am
由 B2L2
Obvious to me that he built up a lot of pressure on the ski tail which later on pop and caught him unexpected. He wasn't rounding up his turn for speed controller and his speed kept increasing down the run.
For me, he seems to be on his back seat most of the time. What causing that, I think when he cross the ski, he cross it from side to side with not enough forward movement down the hill. He can't load the ski tip and always loading the ski tail instead.
What's the PMTS expert said? Is he practicing the (super) phantom move at that time?
#52 回覆: rebound的感覺是假的
發表於 : 週五 4月 27, 2012 3:39 am
由 skier888
B2L2 寫:Obvious to me that he built up a lot of pressure on the ski tail which later on pop and caught him unexpected. He wasn't rounding up his turn for speed controller and his speed kept increasing down the run.
For me, he seems to be on his back seat most of the time. What causing that, I think when he cross the ski, he cross it from side to side with not enough forward movement down the hill. He can't load the ski tip and always loading the ski tail instead.
What's the PMTS expert said? Is he practicing the (super) phantom move at that time?
I think you are right on, PMTS or not, especially about the turn shape. He was practicing to get bigger age angle and this is the biggest he had gotten at that time. I guess you read my description about phantom move, it is always the default way to ski in PMTS. It is not a symmetric movement, e.g edge change is not simultaneous, whether others can see it or not will depend on the skill of the person performing.
#53 回覆: rebound的感覺是假的
發表於 : 週五 4月 27, 2012 3:50 am
由 pku
skier888 寫:To me, too much counter balance is not really a problem. Even it is, it is much easier to fix than to have not enough. What do you think?
This is PMTS style skiing so there is some difference. There are several coaches present including HH and his wife when this video was taken.
If it's a problem or not a problem , it all depend . For me , this kind of alignment thing on carving long radius turn is not easy for me to fix .
If you compare his with the picture by Barnes or even with hh there is some difference
#54 回覆: rebound的感覺是假的
發表於 : 週五 4月 27, 2012 4:03 am
由 skier888
pku 寫:If it's a problem or not a problem , it all depend . For me , this kind of alignment thing on carving long radius turn is not easy for me to fix .
If you compare his with the picture by Barnes or even with hh there is some difference
What I mean is that it is the better of the two. It is easier to tone it down. Most people unable to have enough. This is if you are talking about PMTS "counter balance"
#55 回覆: rebound的感覺是假的
發表於 : 週五 4月 27, 2012 4:04 am
由 snowrider
skier888 寫: ... About the back seat, sure, but that is not a static position. He is not back seat all the time. The situation he is in also caused it to be worst than it should be
skier888 - You can see his problem right from this snapshot:
His backseat problem was actually caused by his weak inner upper body. His inner upper body sank.
#56 回覆: rebound的感覺是假的
發表於 : 週五 4月 27, 2012 4:11 am
由 snowrider
B2L2 寫:Obvious to me that he built up a lot of pressure on the ski tail which later on pop and caught him unexpected. He wasn't rounding up his turn for speed controller and his speed kept increasing down the run.
For me, he seems to be on his back seat most of the time. What causing that, I think when he cross the ski, he cross it from side to side with not enough forward movement down the hill. He can't load the ski tip and always loading the ski tail instead.
What's the PMTS expert said? Is he practicing the (super) phantom move at that time?
B2L2 - you are right on!
#57 回覆: rebound的感覺是假的
發表於 : 週五 4月 27, 2012 4:19 am
由 skier888
snowrider 寫:skier888 - You can see his problem right from this snapshot:
His backseat problem was actually caused by his weak inner upper body. His inner upper body sank.
I did acknowledge that the back seat problem. I am just saying he is not in the same back position all the time. I see that he is already at or beyond his limit before this frame. He will not be in this position if he rounded up the turn prior to this like B2L2 point out.
#58 回覆: rebound的感覺是假的
發表於 : 週五 4月 27, 2012 4:49 am
由 skier888
This is a good PMTS demo so that we see why people skiing certain way
There is a reason why I call it "demo". I think the pop up you are talking about is cause by the rebound (is why I post it here.) that he tried to recover from.
