版主: norman
beg 寫:Sure, let's bet us$10,000. We both put $5'000 deposit. Loser pay the ticket, let' do it.
All mountain skier except mogul大師
In window of the world all peoples know you are the carving king there, for sure I'll lose
Your problem lies in that you claim turn skiing is inferior but you are using low level turn skiing technique. I agree that your stemming turn is done well.taichiskiing 寫:You've got that right. I rate good wedge skiing as a good foundation for skiing; slow but stable, wedge is a very good technique for the beginners to learn skiing on, however, the same advantage turns into intermediate skiers' "bottle neck," and becomes 小知小人的 "holy grail" for bashing on the net. Why it is a non-issue? You only need one ski to turn, so, if the outside ski/dominated ski has proper turning force on it, and the inside ski has no interfering force to prevend it turns, the turn will turn well, even with a wedge stance. So, skiing with wedge is not a technical problem, but appearance one, it doesn't look good. Nevertheless, that's only little knowledge's mentality, and real skiers enjoy the skiing with it,
YouTube - Flatboarding: powder gully skiing
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I think most people don't see the wedge, including me until the screen capture. We saw something else but that is related to what the way he is trying to ski. I still don't know if the still show wedge.Observer 寫:B2L2 has a very good point.
Everyone pointing at Dan's MA with a slight wedge at times is "barking up the wrong tree"
I bet most did not read through the thread:
http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/...m-a-for-csia-3
which is very technical and with quite some arguments. Wedge is a "non-issue"
Good observation. You are right !skier888 寫:I think most people don't see the wedge, including me until the screen capture. We saw something else but that is related to what the way he is trying to ski. I still don't know if the still show wedge.
That's totally your 小知小人的 shameless denial.skier888 寫:Your problem lies in that you claim turn skiing is inferior but you are using low level turn skiing technique. I agree that your stemming turn is done well.
Observer 寫:Good observation. You are right !
After carefully looking at the still capture. His skis are quite 'parallel' but his legs has quite an "A" frame, meaning that the skis are not edged equally at the same time (one knee move towards the slope much more than the other). This gave the illusion of him wedging.
But anyway he has other 'problems' as discussed in the forum. Unless he corrects his stance problem and also being very good in the moguls, he would not pass the CSIA L3.
You need to understand CSIA L2 doesn't need fast skiing to pass. L3 need to ski faster but they need to turn fast and maintain the speed under control, not straight down the hill.lelo 寫:光比快好像不太公平吧？
我在綠線上的速度可以追上 l2 的教練，因為我體重有 200lb，她們可能只有我一半重，她們在拼命加速時，我跟在後面還得稍稍減速，不然就撞上她們了！
如果不像比賽一樣設旗門的話，最可能發生的狀況應該是雙方都直線往下飆，而且這時候全制動是最保險的姿勢，因為只要賭對方摔一次就贏了！我在白馬五龍跟團友滑時，我做大迴轉就跟不上團友全制動直線飆，這樣比好像沒意義吧？
我怎麼敢跟 l3 比？我說的當然是指 carver(ams)、beg跟我這種水平的，現在如果是剛壓過雪的雪道，我用體重飆就有勝算，如果是亂雪(crud)地型，就來個全制動直線飆，鹿死誰手還很難講。pku 寫:You need to understand CSIA L2 doesn't need fast skiing to pass. L3 need to ski faster but they need to turn fast and maintain the speed under control, not straight down the hill.
You big turn can't catch up with people using wedge straight down is because you skid too much when turning.
Beg doesn't like to ski fast, he likes to do perfect round turns.lelo 寫:我怎麼敢跟 l3 比？我說的當然是指 carver(ams)、beg跟我這種水平的，現在如果是剛壓過雪的雪道，我用體重飆就有勝算，如果是亂雪(crud)地型，就來個全制動直線飆，鹿死誰手還很難講。
請看第 16 樓跟第 19 樓，我會講這些，是因為他一直找 carver 比，據我所知 carver 體重頂輕的，這樣比會不會不太公平？pku 寫:Beg doesn't like to ski fast, he likes to do perfect round turns.
你會不會記錯？十年每季只滑五天，總滑雪天數只有約 50 天，就能考上 L1，你兒子肯定是滑雪天才。My son is only L1 and he doesn't like skiing and only ski around 5 days a season for 10 years.
I'll bet he'll win in both condition.
有沒有 certification 跟滑的好不好關係不大，其實我更怕小孩，大人摔個一、兩次就會知道要怕，小孩不怕摔，衝起來才快。My daughter is less than 100 pounds and with no certification in skiing. I bet she can win on both condition no matter how you ski.
比什麼也可以，只耍 all mountain skier except mogul 大師不歸縮就行lelo 寫:光比快好像不太公平吧？
我在綠線上的速度可以追上 l2 的教練，因為我體重有 200lb，她們可能只有我一半重，她們在拼命加速時，我跟在後面還得稍稍減速，不然就撞上她們了！
如果不像比賽一樣設旗門的話，最可能發生的狀況應該是雙方都直線往下飆，而且這時候全制動是最保險的姿勢，因為只要賭對方摔一次就贏了！我在白馬五龍跟團友滑時，我做大迴轉就跟不上團友全制動直線飆，這樣比好像沒意義吧？
Carver like to compete skiing fast with other people especially on the ski.com.twlelo 寫:請看第 16 樓跟第 19 樓，我會講這些，是因為他一直找 carver 比，據我所知 carver 體重頂輕的，這樣比會不會不太公平？
你會不會記錯？十年每季只滑五天，總滑雪天數只有約 50 天，就能考上 L1，你兒子肯定是滑雪天才。
有沒有 certification 跟滑的好不好關係不大，其實我更怕小孩，大人摔個一、兩次就會知道要怕，小孩不怕摔，衝起來才快。
小知小人:taichiskiing 寫:You've got that right. I rate good wedge skiing as a good foundation for skiing; slow but stable, wedge is a very good technique for the beginners to learn skiing on, however, the same advantage turns into intermediate skiers' "bottle neck," and becomes 小知小人的 "holy grail" for bashing on the net. Why it is a non-issue? You only need one ski to turn, so, if the outside ski/dominated ski has proper turning force on it, and the inside ski has no interfering force to prevend it turns, the turn will turn well, even with a wedge stance. So, skiing with wedge is not a technical problem, but appearance one, it doesn't look good. Nevertheless, that's only little knowledge's mentality, and real skiers enjoy the skiing with it,
YouTube - Flatboarding: powder gully skiing
:)
IS
One can pass L1 if one skis well enough, but for L2 and up, one needs to be quite good in 'detection and correction'. Many fail L2 though they ski very well, but they fail the 'teaching' part.lelo 寫:你會不會記錯？十年每季只滑五天，總滑雪天數只有約 50 天，就能考上 L1，你兒子肯定是滑雪天才
Hmm... "stopping at the end of the turn" ? It is not obvious to me in either videos.pku 寫: The thing I heard from Otto Kamstra about Dan's skiing is he's like stopping at the end of the turn whisch is more obvious in the video when he' on his red jacket. My wife said the same thing too.
Dan is adding a bit edge to finish his turn to get the skis back uphill almost like a stop to slow down ( not a smooth ride ).Observer 寫:Hmm... "stopping at the end of the turn" ? It is not obvious to me in either videos.
To me, in these 2 'short turn' videos he is merely controlling speed between transition. Perhaps in his other skiing, it is more obvious.
So Otto Kamstra is still around, and what is his position these days -- still Ski School Director?
When you said 'him' and 'he', it was a bit confusing. Of course you meant Otto and not Dan.pku 寫: First time ski with him, his short turns is very constant on all condition we skied yesterday. His short turn is at least 2 level higher than the other CSIA L4 in oanother PDP on Feb.
Otto's skiing level ( short turns ), not his certification level,Observer 寫:When you said 'him' and 'he', it was a bit confusing. Of course you meant Otto and not Dan.
But 2 levels higher than the other CSIA L4?
這好像不太對，要比的是你，應該由你提出一個公平且能驗證技術的方法，否則依照 norman 的標準，他要比的是優雅，你要不要跟 norman 比？beg 寫:比什麼也可以，只耍 all mountain skier except mogul 大師不歸縮就行
I know you meant 高兩班 in his technique. But most L4 are very good already--高兩班 is a bit of exaggeration, No?pku 寫:Otto's skiing level ( short turns ), not his certification level,
certification level ( L4 examiner and L4 )
skiing level: 高兩班 than the other L4 Ryan
