為什麼 wedge 不好? 有什麼不好?

管他是好咖還是怪咖,只要是咖就能發言,有任何技術問題,在此討論就對啦。

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文章 taichiskiing » 週三 3月 23, 2011 10:46 pm

pku 寫:Of course Beg will accept the challenge, we are always ready for any type of challenge on Whilster ,wait for you Norman , carver and Taichiski any time.
Nice foxhole, Whistler group. And you still need to qualify double diamond run before you're qualified to accept the challenge.
For Norman, he's ok on the gentle groom when snow is good, his ski tail slip at the end

YouTube - 黑線小彎


But, once he is on non perfect snow, his form will totally off


YouTube - 黑線饅頭

For you, I'll choose my daughter 1/2 the weight of you to compete with you on a easy groomed slope see who can ski faster.
Blah, blah, blah...
I'll take care of taichiski everywhere on the mountain and my son should treat carver from Round house to Village on the groomed.
Ok, let's settle this, Eastbowl Woods, Heavenly, Chinese downhill, $5,000usd cash, (according that your statement, "I'll take care of taichiski everywhere on the mountain," so here's the challenge), You can set the date.

YouTube - Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: shadow skiing Eastbowl Woods, Heavenly



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文章 pku » 週四 3月 24, 2011 12:11 am

taichiskiing 寫:Nice foxhole, Whistler group. And you still need to qualify double diamond run before you're qualified to accept the challenge.



Blah, blah, blah...



Ok, let's settle this, Eastbowl Woods, Heavenly, Chinese downhill, $5,000usd cash, (according that your statement, "I'll take care of taichiski everywhere on the mountain," so here's the challenge), You can set the date.

YouTube - Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: shadow skiing Eastbowl Woods, Heavenly


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IS
I'll choose the run on Heavenly , not you . For sure one double black, one Black bumps run, one groom . 3 runs.

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文章 B2L2 » 週四 3月 24, 2011 2:06 am

lelo 寫:這種事後道歉的話你也信?

這就好像拿一張美國籃球代表隊的身高表,指著裏頭不到 200cm 的隊員,然後說,身高對打籃球不重要。
Do you remember Lindsay's reply? She was asking why we don't all alpine skier gaining on their weight "if" weight really give them the claimed advantage.

If you look at the chart again, we have male around 180-190. That's not far from normal male weight, even when compare to Asian 180-190 is not abnormal (I'm 190lb). US female team is obviously on the heavy side if you compare to Asia women. :)

Your example of 200cm NBA player doesn't stand since 2m so far away from normal height.

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文章 taichiskiing » 週四 3月 24, 2011 9:36 pm

pku 寫:I'll choose the run on Heavenly , not you . For sure one double black, one Black bumps run, one groom . 3 runs.
That will be too easy, at $5,000usd per run, don't think that you can affort it, and Heavenly Eastbowl Woods covers all your requirements, double black trees on the top, double black moguls in the middle, straight away/groomed at the bottom, and easy in and easy out, so it is one run covers them all. The runs I specified are pretty much what you can expect typical terrain/skiing at Heavenly, so choose carefully, your money.

And you still have to qualify the double diamond run first. To qualify the double diamond run, do what I did, wear a helmet camera, make a reference shot to the double diamond entry, then make a run, top to bottom, none-stop. After you've qualified, then you can continue to talk about PK with me. Before that, your Whistler group remains a shameless BS group.

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文章 pku » 週四 3月 24, 2011 11:06 pm

taichiskiing 寫:That will be too easy, at $5,000usd per run, don't think that you can affort it, and Heavenly Eastbowl Woods covers all your requirements, double black trees on the top, double black moguls in the middle, straight away/groomed at the bottom, and easy in and easy out, so it is one run covers them all. The runs I specified are pretty much what you can expect typical terrain/skiing at Heavenly, so choose carefully, your money.

And you still have to qualify the double diamond run first. To qualify the double diamond run, do what I did, wear a helmet camera, make a reference shot to the double diamond entry, then make a run, top to bottom, none-stop. After you've qualified, then you can continue to talk about PK with me. Before that, your Whistler group remains a shameless BS group.

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IS
Since you like to keep raising the bet, I'll give bet $50,000.00 to ski on the run I did in 53 second, $50000.00 can cover all your expenses.

The thing is I don't wear a helmet. Did you ever see I ski with a helmet.

One more thing, how can you prve you got $15000.00 cash, I don't thing a poor man making excuse of having not even $1000.00 and now boost $5000.00 especially US is getter poorer now.

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文章 Observer » 週四 3月 24, 2011 11:27 pm

B2L2 寫:Do you remember Lindsay's reply? She was asking why we don't all alpine skier gaining on their weight "if" weight really give them the claimed advantage.

If you look at the chart again, we have male around 180-190. That's not far from normal male weight, even when compare to Asian 180-190 is not abnormal (I'm 190lb). US female team is obviously on the heavy side if you compare to Asia women. :)

Your example of 200cm NBA player doesn't stand since 2m so far away from normal height.
Looking at the chart, for 190 lb and up male skiers, they are mostly over 6 feet tall, and I bet that they are all muscles and very little fat.

Also have you seen most of the women WC skiers that their thigh must be at least twice as big as 'normal' Asia girls of the same height.

Doing GS, SG or downhill requires, not only techniques, but stamina and physical strength as well.
最後由 Observer 於 週四 3月 24, 2011 11:35 pm 編輯,總共編輯了 4 次。

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文章 B2L2 » 週五 3月 25, 2011 2:34 am

Observer 寫:Looking at the chart, for 190 lb and up male skiers, they are mostly over 6 feet tall, and I bet that they are all muscles and very little fat.

Also have you seen most of the women WC skiers that their thigh must be at least twice as big as 'normal' Asia girls of the same height.

Doing GS, SG or downhill requires, not only techniques, but stamina and physical strength as well.
Observer summarized a lot and I totally agree.

Lelo, all I originally said is "weight is just a little factor in going down faster and getting tired quicker". My statement was a reply to your comment saying that you could go down a slope faster compare to the TW L2 instructors because of your weight. My feeling is that the TW instructors are good in skiing effectively (using various methods). If you aren't skiing effectively, you getting tired quickly.

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文章 lelo » 週五 3月 25, 2011 2:51 am

B2L2 寫: My feeling is that the TW instructors are good in skiing effectively (using various methods). If you aren't skiing effectively, you getting tired quickly.
喔!我會累是因為我必須用力煞車,我現在的技術還沒辦法控制那麼高的速度,而且那麼快的速度很容易撞死人的。所以我大部份時間都泡在綠線 ....

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文章 B2L2 » 週五 3月 25, 2011 3:26 am

Maybe beside "用力煞車", there are better way to do speed control. Have you talk to your TW instructor friends? We all want to ski effectively and that's one of my major goal.

Since the "ski the slow line fast" has been mentioned here, see whether you could understand what Bob Barnes's real meaning about that.
http://www.epicski.com/wiki/ski-the-slo ... bob-barnes

"Good skiing means skiing a slow enough line as fast as you can, when you can."

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文章 Observer » 週五 3月 25, 2011 6:52 am

B2L2 寫:Maybe beside "用力煞車", there are better way to do speed control. Have you talk to your TW instructor friends? We all want to ski effectively and that's one of my major goal.

Since the "ski the slow line fast" has been mentioned here, see whether you could understand what Bob Barnes's real meaning about that.
http://www.epicski.com/wiki/ski-the-slo ... bob-barnes

"Good skiing means skiing a slow enough line as fast as you can, when you can."
I think Bob Barnes' "ski the slow line fast" is a bit too "advance" for lelo.

lelo, You should make your turns rounder instead of going straight and then try to brake. And also try to "finish" each turn before going to the next. That means your turn should go a bit uphill at the end of each turn (before it comes to a complete stop).

Or go to a ski trip with Ader for him to look at your skiing. Ader is a CSIA L3.

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文章 skier888 » 週五 3月 25, 2011 10:29 am

真羡慕你們2個感情這麼好 :face (51): 起床第一件事就是囘對方的話 :face (356):

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文章 skier888 » 週五 3月 25, 2011 10:35 am

Observer 寫:I think Bob Barnes' "ski the slow line fast" is a bit too "advance" for lelo.

lelo, You should make your turns rounder instead of going straight and then try to brake. And also try to "finish" each turn before going to the next. That means your turn should go a bit uphill at the end of each turn (before it comes to a complete stop).

Or go to a ski trip with Ader for him to look at your skiing. Ader is a CSIA L3.
I remember he mentioned that Ader was on his trip. He only skis a few days a year so I guess his muscle is never conditioned good enough.

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文章 skier888 » 週五 3月 25, 2011 10:38 am

Wedge lets one brake in tight space. It is useful in the lift line. It is also good for pre-jump speed check if space is tight.

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文章 skier888 » 週五 3月 25, 2011 10:41 am

pku 寫:Since you like to keep raising the bet, I'll give bet $50,000.00 to ski on the run I did in 53 second, $50000.00 can cover all your expenses.

The thing is I don't wear a helmet. Did you ever see I ski with a helmet.

One more thing, how can you prve you got $15000.00 cash, I don't thing a poor man making excuse of having not even $1000.00 and now boost $5000.00 especially US is getter poorer now.
That is a good one :face (334):

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文章 taichiskiing » 週五 3月 25, 2011 9:07 pm

pku 寫:Since you like to keep raising the bet, I'll give bet $50,000.00 to ski on the run I did in 53 second, $50000.00 can cover all your expenses.
為了爭個自己口顛,「傾家當產」有所不惜? Lucky you, I don't do "gapper's challenge," you're still going to lose, and the run you did does not meet the "all-mountain ALPINE skiing" criteria, but the run I've shown does.
The thing is I don't wear a helmet. Did you ever see I ski with a helmet.
What a lame excuse. You don't need the helmet to use a helmet cam; there are head straps or body harness for it. If you don't know how to use a helmet cam, ask B2L2. And you better start to learn wearing helmet, you'd need it to go where we might be going,

YouTube - Flatboarding/Line-skiing: off-piste, Maggie's canyon, right traverse, Heavenly


One more thing, how can you prve you got $15000.00 cash, I don't thing a poor man making excuse of having not even $1000.00 and now boost $5000.00 especially US is getter poorer now.
The same question I might have asked you, given you Canadian have a smaller dollars; nevertheless, why bother? We "non-gappers"/真人 說話算數, need no proof. The bet was "one" run to see which one of us is "faster," not "better," for which you have already lost, and all I need is to win the first around, and yes, you're going to lose them all. That's your requested proof. Game?

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文章 skier888 » 週五 3月 25, 2011 10:43 pm

taichiskiing 寫:為了爭個自己口顛,「傾家當產」有所不惜? Lucky you, I don't do "gapper's challenge," you're still going to lose, and the run you did does not meet the "all-mountain ALPINE skiing" criteria, but the run I've shown does.



What a lame excuse. You don't need the helmet to use a helmet cam; there are head straps or body harness for it. If you don't know how to use a helmet cam, ask B2L2. And you better start to learn wearing helmet, you'd need it to go where we might be going,

YouTube - Flatboarding/Line-skiing: off-piste, Maggie's canyon, right traverse, Heavenly




The same question I might have asked you, given you Canadian have a smaller dollars; nevertheless, why bother? We "non-gappers"/真人 說話算數, need no proof. The bet was "one" run to see which one of us is "faster," not "better," for which you have already lost, and all I need is to win the first around, and yes, you're going to lose them all. That's your requested proof. Game?

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IS
You are still live in the past. You need to see the outside world more :face (4):

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文章 skier888 » 週五 3月 25, 2011 10:53 pm

taichiskiing 寫:為了爭個自己口顛,「傾家當產」有所不惜? Lucky you, I don't do "gapper's challenge," you're still going to lose, and the run you did does not meet the "all-mountain ALPINE skiing" criteria, but the run I've shown does.
You are making people laugh. You should not be on those steep runs. You don't have the technique because all you do is travserse. You ruin the name of line-skiing. Why don't you use your energy to improve your skiing while there is still time. This will be non-augument next year if you ca improve. You can easily put in 30 more days to do this.

I know what is going to be your response. Please say something creative :face (328):

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文章 lelo » 週五 3月 25, 2011 11:17 pm

Observer 寫:I think Bob Barnes' "ski the slow line fast" is a bit too "advance" for lelo.

lelo, You should make your turns rounder instead of going straight and then try to brake. And also try to "finish" each turn before going to the next. That means your turn should go a bit uphill at the end of each turn (before it comes to a complete stop).

Or go to a ski trip with Ader for him to look at your skiing. Ader is a CSIA L3.
謝謝!skier888 說的沒錯,我今年白馬團就是阿德帶的,他帶我上過幾堂課,給我的診斷就是要我加強練習 up-down 的動作,這樣轉彎更圓,就能控制速度了 ...

做 up-down 頂累的,我要用直排輪試著練這個動作 ...

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文章 Observer » 週六 3月 26, 2011 12:01 am

lelo 寫:謝謝!skier888 說的沒錯,我今年白馬團就是阿德帶的,他帶我上過幾堂課,給我的診斷就是要我加強練習 up-down 的動作,這樣轉彎更圓,就能控制速度了 ...

做 up-down 頂累的,我要用直排輪試著練這個動作 ...
That is interesting and strange that Ader want you to "...加強練習 up-down 的動作,這樣轉彎更圓,就能控制速度了..."

The up-motion should be very little, and from ankle and knee joints and less upper body -- this is just to 'lighten' the skis making it easier to start the next turn. But it should not help you to control speed.

My suggestion is for you NOT to rush and pivot your skis quickly at the start of the turn. Give it time, and then slowly try to steer the ski across the hill and FINISH the turn -- that will slow you down. If you really steer the skis up the hill you can even come to a stop.

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文章 lelo » 週六 3月 26, 2011 12:47 am

Observer 寫:That is interesting and strange that Ader want you to "...加強練習 up-down 的動作,這樣轉彎更圓,就能控制速度了..."

The up-motion should be very little, and from ankle and knee joints and less upper body -- this is just to 'lighten' the skis making it easier to start the next turn. But it should not help you to control speed.
阿德應該沒這麼講吧?我不很確定,因為我聽力有點問題,不過上課主要在改進 up-down 的動作。
My suggestion is for you NOT to rush and pivot your skis quickly at the start of the turn. Give it time, and then slowly try to steer the ski across the hill and FINISH the turn -- that will slow you down. If you really steer the skis up the hill you can even come to a stop.
我會試試 ....

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