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管他是好咖還是怪咖,只要是咖就能發言,有任何技術問題,在此討論就對啦。

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#1 Line-skiing

文章 taichiskiing » 週二 3月 10, 2009 9:08 pm

carver_hk 寫:I love line graphic.
YouTube - Lines of Flatboarding/Flatskiing 1


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文章 carver_hk » 週三 3月 11, 2009 9:07 am

Nice video. But I don't see any direct association with taichiskiing. can u point it out? :face (334):
I love line graphic :face (334):

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文章 taichiskiing » 週三 3月 11, 2009 8:59 pm

carver_hk 寫:Nice video. But I don't see any direct association with taichiskiing. can u point it out? :face (334):
The lines left behind show the skills and the spirit of the skier.

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文章 carver_hk » 週三 3月 11, 2009 11:40 pm

taichiskiing 寫:The lines left behind show the skills and the spirit of the skier.

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i mean its doesnt prove itself as taichiskiing. It merely means someone draw this lines. :face (334):
I love line graphic :face (334):

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文章 taichiskiing » 週四 3月 12, 2009 12:11 am

carver_hk 寫:i mean its doesnt prove itself as taichiskiing. It merely means someone draw this lines. :face (334):
Then again, what do you think Taichiskiing is, or should be?

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文章 carver_hk » 週四 3月 12, 2009 12:18 am

taichiskiing 寫:Then again, what do you think Taichiskiing is, or should be?

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what i seeing so far is very recreational skiing that exhibiting some good control sufficient to allow the skier to venture the whole mountain but performance? no way. :face (334):

again its not a bad thing. i dont think recreational skier need to ski at a hundred miles an hour.
I love line graphic :face (334):

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文章 taichiskiing » 週四 3月 12, 2009 6:45 am

carver_hk 寫:what i seeing so far is very recreational skiing that exhibiting some good control sufficient to allow the skier to venture the whole mountain but performance? no way. :face (334):
眼高手低? let's see what kind of high performance skiing you can come up with. Do you really know what "line-skiing" is?
again its not a bad thing. i dont think recreational skier need to ski at a hundred miles an hour.
The question really is what kind of high performance skiing you think you are pursuing and how do you get there.

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文章 carver_hk » 週四 3月 12, 2009 9:32 am

I think you have a major logical problem here. You are someone in the business and seek my view on your school. I gave it and you are not happy with it then you start attacking me personally. Honestly I m just a recreational skier I don't even need to know what is High performance skiing is. It just that it's what I can see in other forums that it's what other school can do. :face (334):
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文章 taichiskiing » 週四 3月 12, 2009 11:27 am

carver_hk 寫:I think you have a major logical problem here. You are someone in the business and seek my view on your school. I gave it and you are not happy with it then you start attacking me personally.
That is not a logical problem, so the problem is your logic.

No, I didn't try to attack you, as you've claimed in your sig that you like line graphic, I thought you may really enjoy a good aesthetic line, besides, "line-skiing" is really a new technique to you. You are not discussing that but claiming I attack you? No, you were attacked by your own incompetence, as you cannot match up and slip into the denial.
Honestly I m just a recreational skier I don't even need to know what is High performance skiing is. It just that it's what I can see in other forums that it's what other school can do. :face (334):
Yes, we know you are just a recreational skier who doesn't know what high performance skiing is, nevertheless, you prefer other schools techniques thinking they are high performance? How do you come to the conclusion? Yup, that's your logic problem.

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文章 carver_hk » 週四 3月 12, 2009 12:03 pm

mind that I didn't claim I m good at drawing line on the mountain. I merely claim I love line graphic. If you don't see the difference check out dictionary.com

You are in the business its up to you to impress the viewer and attract more student to your school. That means its up to you to show that your skiing is high performance if you don't like a viewer feels that its not high performance. You can not force anyone to say your skiing is high performance. You want me to tell you what I feel is high performance? easy:
Compilation of GS and SL carving - 2009 on Vimeo


You have anything comparable? I ll be very happy to see. :face (334):

But please no more personal attack. It makes no point and no fun. I ll claim again I m just a recreational skier who love line graphic. Its not a sin and should not irritate anyone at all.:face (334):
I love line graphic :face (334):

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文章 taichiskiing » 週四 3月 12, 2009 9:21 pm

carver_hk 寫:mind that I didn't claim I m good at drawing line on the mountain. I merely claim I love line graphic. If you don't see the difference check out dictionary.com
There's no reference on how good or bad you drawing line on the mountain at all. 你自己“小人長戚戚”。
You are in the business its up to you to impress the viewer and attract more student to your school. That means its up to you to show that your skiing is high performance if you don't like a viewer feels that its not high performance. You can not force anyone to say your skiing is high performance.
No one forces you to say anything here; nevertheless, we do compare notes here, good or bad, for the purpose of all around discussing. So, you may have your views, but please, don't whine when people don't buy your mediocre assessment.
You want me to tell you what I feel is high performance? easy:
http://www.vimeo.com/3169876

You have anything comparable? I ll be very happy to see. :face (334):
Figured, "turn-skiing"? no, I don't have clips for such boring skiing. Here's what we do around here at Heavenly,
YouTube - All-mountain Skiing: free skiing

But please no more personal attack. It makes no point and no fun. I ll claim again I m just a recreational skier who love line graphic. Its not a sin and should not irritate anyone at all.:face (334):
That's only your “小人長戚戚”。No, I don't do personal attack on the 'net (actually, it is more like the other way around); life is short, no time to waste on 'net bashing. I'm only interesting in high level skiing; if you've got some good idea, I'm all ears.

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文章 carver_hk » 週四 3月 12, 2009 11:40 pm

my skiing? simply put: lacking in many ways or bad. :face (331):

Yours? a joke to me compare with the one i put up when performance is the focus. You can get down the mountain for sure, like many people does. haha. again no offence. i m just an innocent viewer. Like people watching a film, they don't have to be an professional to judge, right? if you dont like to be commented dont ask. :face (50):

you don't believe me? no problem. just try to put up your video anywhere and ask if its a performance skiing. I m quite sure even people don't know skiing at all can detect the difference, but you, who is too obsessed of your own success.
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文章 taichiskiing » 週五 3月 13, 2009 9:01 am

carver_hk 寫:my skiing? simply put: lacking in many ways or bad. :face (331):

.....
I don't play your game; let's move on.

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文章 taichiskiing » 週五 3月 13, 2009 8:53 pm

我們繼續。那轉彎滑雪 (turn-skiing) 跟線形滑雪 (line-skiing) 又有什麼差別了?

轉彎滑雪, Compilation of GS and SL carving - 2009 on Vimeo
是應用轉彎來改換方向及控制速度,而大部份的目的是控制速度,然後來來去去的轉彎以達到滑雪的目的。這種滑雪的方式很費事也很費力(轉太多彎),所以其效率很低,也很單調。所以轉彎滑雪是低等滑雪的技術。

線形滑雪, YouTube - All-mountain Skiing: free skiing
走直的/線形,而轉彎的目的是改換方向而不是控制速度。線形滑雪就好像在山路上開車,路轉車不轉,只是跟著路轉。所以線形滑雪不但省事省力,而且又快而剌激。但是,問題是在我們滑過去之前,這樣的滑道(山路)並不存在,所以我們必需要有能力在滑雪的情況下看到/知道這條滑道而且要有能力跟到轉才能做到線形滑雪。要看到這不存在滑道需要很多山、雪及滑道選擇的知識,所以線形滑雪是比較高等的滑雪技術。

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文章 carver_hk » 週二 3月 17, 2009 12:03 am

這 thread 已沒什麼意思, 太多人生攻擊了. 要談技術的話請另開新 thread. :face (334):
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文章 taichiskiing » 週二 3月 17, 2009 3:39 am

carver_hk 寫:這 thread 已沒什麼意思, 太多人生攻擊了. 要談技術的話請另開新 thread. :face (334):
那裡話,我說過你是“小人長戚戚”,那是說,你講也講不過,比也比不過,也不想想為什麼自已的技術不夠,還說人家“太多人生攻擊”,事實上,在這個論壇上就只有你顯露這個攻擊企圖。所以我說你是被你自已的小知攻擊。

線形滑雪,你都會了嗎? 線形滑雪是滑樹雪 (tree-skiing) 最基本的技術。你滑過樹林嗎? 這些都是上層滑雪的技術,你固步自封是你自家事,但是我想別的雪友還是會對這個話題很感興趣的。你最好不要自找沒趣。

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文章 norman » 週三 3月 18, 2009 9:53 am

不好意思,插花一下,我去找來這句話的解釋,看完後,個人感覺這應該不是罵人的話,而是指一個人思想情緒的變化而已。如下:

【原文】子曰:“君子坦蕩蕩,小人長戚戚。”

【譯文】孔子說:“君子心胸寬廣坦蕩,小人經常心緒不寧。”

【出處】 論語˙述而第七(不是論仁,論君子,這只是課本上後補的名字)

http://www.epochtimes.com/b5/1/9/1/c4723.htm

【讀解】 君子光明磊落,不憂不懼,所以心胸寬廣坦蕩;小人患得患失,忙於算計,又每每庸人自擾,疑心他人算計自己,所以經常陷於憂懼之中,心緒不寧。

「坦蕩蕩」是指胸襟廣闊,「長戚戚」是指心懷憂慮。

【背後意義】

君子與小人所追求的人生目標不同,決定了他們的境界也不同。

君子所追求的是治國、平天下,所以會以天地之間自然為胸懷,那肯定是無所不包、無所不容。君子具有道德修養,目光遠,大行事以義理為準則,不計較利害得失,只求內省不疚,心地寬坦。

而天地間則無所不有,有善有惡、有高山有峽穀,有美麗有醜陋,所以君子自然會容納萬事萬物,如此一來還不坦蕩蕩、心安理得嗎?

小人所追求的只有名利和權位,而這些東西並不會停止在一個人那裡不移動,所以他們會患得患失,永遠也不會得到真正的安寧。

沒有富貴盼富貴,奮鬥不息更而鬥爭不停;有了富貴怕失去,日夜難安。所以他們會經常憂戚慘慘,終不得內心安寧及幸福可言,真正貧窮之人。

無論是富貴還是貧窮,君子都會樂以忘憂的;不管是貧窮還是富貴,小人都是戚戚無歡的。
目前總滑天數80天。繼續累積中...我想滑雪。 :face (292): :face (292): :face (292):

滑雪人

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文章 taichiskiing » 週三 3月 18, 2009 9:38 pm

norman 寫:不好意思,插花一下,我去找來這句話的解釋,看完後,個人感覺這應該不是罵人的話,而是指一個人思想情緒的變化而已。如下:

【原文】子曰:“君子坦蕩蕩,小人長戚戚。”

【譯文】孔子說:“君子心胸寬廣坦蕩,小人經常心緒不寧。”

【出處】 論語˙述而第七(不是論仁,論君子,這只是課本上後補的名字)

http://www.epochtimes.com/b5/1/9/1/c4723.htm

【讀解】 君子光明磊落,不憂不懼,所以心胸寬廣坦蕩;小人患得患失,忙於算計,又每每庸人自擾,疑心他人算計自己,所以經常陷於憂懼之中,心緒不寧。

「坦蕩蕩」是指胸襟廣闊,「長戚戚」是指心懷憂慮。

【背後意義】

君子與小人所追求的人生目標不同,決定了他們的境界也不同。

君子所追求的是治國、平天下,所以會以天地之間自然為胸懷,那肯定是無所不包、無所不容。君子具有道德修養,目光遠,大行事以義理為準則,不計較利害得失,只求內省不疚,心地寬坦。

而天地間則無所不有,有善有惡、有高山有峽穀,有美麗有醜陋,所以君子自然會容納萬事萬物,如此一來還不坦蕩蕩、心安理得嗎?

小人所追求的只有名利和權位,而這些東西並不會停止在一個人那裡不移動,所以他們會患得患失,永遠也不會得到真正的安寧。

沒有富貴盼富貴,奮鬥不息更而鬥爭不停;有了富貴怕失去,日夜難安。所以他們會經常憂戚慘慘,終不得內心安寧及幸福可言,真正貧窮之人。

無論是富貴還是貧窮,君子都會樂以忘憂的;不管是貧窮還是富貴,小人都是戚戚無歡的。
謝謝 norman 的“插花”,解釋的很好。這不是說教,只是我們中國人的人生經驗談。我們中國文化從伏羲氏制陰陽開始,一直是以陰陽做為我們思想的基準而用以解釋萬物。中國的語言也然。思想是陰,行動為陽,“陰陽合和”就產生“言行一致”。要是一個人能做到言行一致的話,正確的思想導致正確的行動,正確的行動造成正確的結果因而証實那思想的正確,教學相長,則其人之功力:知識、技術、修養等等都會不斷的進步的。那不是“百泰生”嗎?

言行不一致,自欺欺人,沒什麼好說的。

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文章 snowrider » 週六 3月 28, 2009 12:02 pm

carver_hk 寫:...
Compilation of GS and SL carving - 2009 on Vimeo...
Is that skier you? Not bad!

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