#201 回覆: 在機壓雪道與饅頭之間
發表於 : 週三 3月 24, 2010 12:49 pm
大師後坐很嚴重。大概是照相角度的關係吧:face (41):。反正有問題的都歸罪於照相角度就是了:face (318):。
相信是 z 彎的特徵吧? 把板往谷推著剎車很自然便會坐後. :)skier666 寫:大師後坐很嚴重。
謝謝您的忠告。carver_hk 寫:大師, 這也是我最後的忠告, 不是你承不承認你的彎的問題, 只要用筆記把你前的 2, 3 個大彎經過的都連起來便很清楚一個是幾個z字, 而不是c字, 要看c字請看 heluvaskier 的 demo, 你不面對現實是沒有人能幫你的. :)
我面對現實呀, 我是低手, 有誰滑得比我差的呢, 沒多小, 也不重要, 我玩得開心便是, 只是你不承認自己的是 z 彎. :)norman 寫:謝謝您的忠告。
您的眼力已在我放的最後一段已證實了,您也需要面對現實一下囉。
不明白,您承認您的眼力不好,卻能很清楚看到我人物那麼小所滑的是Z彎?說真的,換作是看別人的,在人物這麼小的形況下滑成類似這個樣子,我真的看不出來耶,看來我的眼力沒有您的好。carver_hk 寫:我面對現實呀, 我是低手, 有誰滑得比我差的呢, 沒多小, 也不重要, 我玩得開心便是, 只是你不承認自己的是 z 彎. :)
那要看你是怎樣起轉了,fall-line只有在perfect C才會出現在9點的位置,而世上沒有幾個人能滑出perfect C的彎,而你們用的12點起彎與6點收彎轉彎也很制式,無法適應變化無窮的地形和也看不見的地心吸引力,所以滑來看起來單調、沒有生氣。carver_hk 寫:個人覺得是以 falline 為定位 9 點.
對,你的低手彽見,真正高手是「慾窮千里目,更上一層樓」,而滑雪最高的境界,以中國功夫/全身運動的見解來看,是「忘我無形,天人合一」,那是說,最高的功夫/滑雪沒有一定的形式,所以快的想法才起來動作己經做完了‧這種境界不是你們只是“以滑雪為樂”的人可以想像的,就甭說感受了‧而epicski雖然高手如雲,但是他們的見解最高也不出於刻滑—一個外在的技術—所以你跟他們學,最多亦只能學那麼多‧外在的技術,在性能上跟功夫的套招差不多,所以用處很有限‧真正滑雪的功夫,跟別的高級功夫一樣,在於內在的運氣、心法、及精神的修練‧高級滑雪的要求、水準比較高,既然你只是自嘲為樂,所以你也不要介意我們說話比較認真嚴肅。高手可以教我, epicski 高手如雲. 這是個人感覺, 太極大師也不用太大反應, 反正我都只是以滑雪為樂, 跟你們賺錢的很大分別. 要求也不同. :)
不介意, 不介意, 玩玩而已, 謝謝指教. :)taichiskiing 寫:你的低手彽見... 既然你只是自嘲為樂
Most of your video is only less than 5 turns and on gentle groomed slope.norman 寫:Ok,這是我最後一次貼這影片了,即然不想提升眼力,就算囉。:20070218174522:
我早在幾年前去上課,有同學被糾正滑Z灣的問題,我就沒被糾正過了。很抱歉,我不曉得什麼叫Z彎,所以不會滑。:face (334):
想提升眼力,真的很不容易的,我選的這些照片都只是需要基礎眼力就夠了。:20070217213814:
我再將下面這段影片再放慢多一倍,總不會找不到我胾取的那張照片吧?
ins.flv video by normankiss - Photobucket
不好意思,對我來講,太難了,因為我大多都是在以拍大轉彎為主,中轉彎跟小轉彎很少拍,所以幾乎沒有。pku 寫:Most of your video is only less than 5 turns and on gentle groomed slope.
Even you make the turns perfect, it doesn't mean anything.
Do you have any video of your skiing more than 10 turns to show us?
Your short turn is more like " Z " than "C"norman 寫:不好意思,對我來講,太難了,因為我大多都是在以拍大轉彎為主,中轉彎跟小轉彎很少拍,所以幾乎沒有。
而要有10個彎以上,至少要有人跟拍才行,這點我就實在無能為力了,因為這要看運氣,如果一起滑的雪友能有跟拍的技術,也要看有沒有空跟意願。
而像下面這兩段都是在日本的紅線,我也站得有夠遠了,我都快看不清楚站在下面的朋友揮手,也許下次應該準備兩個對講機來用用,這樣就可以站更遠的距離了。
以下是我自己數一數,一個有超過10個彎的小轉,跟一個只有9個彎的中大轉彎,沒了。但這兩段,我應該都有貼出來過才是。
再次看了這影片,我覺得下次我一定能改掉上半身有點搖晃的問題,雙腳一定能更穩定的併起來。:face (341):
nor10ski.flv video by normankiss - Photobucket
為何您會想討論這個問題呢?pku 寫:Your short turn is more like " Z " than "C"
There is not much turning of your lower legs in your longer turns, just rely on the side cut of the skis but not bad for a 57 days skier.
The main issue for you is that you don't ski but yet you try to preach about skiing techniques. If you want to be a decent skier, you need to go out there and actually ski instead of sitting in front of a TV and watching videos.
There's only so much that dryland training and watching video can help you with. Even if you can talk the talk, if you can't walk the walk, you're just another ignorant person on this forum.
..norman 寫:為何您會想討論這個問題呢?nion (93):
其他的,我不太想多說,就看下面這篇就好了。
http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/937 ... is-z-turns
那個短轉彎是故意這樣子做的(特意不做higt C的動作會如何),但今年我就只有這一段而已,所以沒有原來我在滑的短轉彎的方式。
我有提過,我是以拍大轉彎來檢視動作為主,然後再拍中轉跟小轉,來看看動作哪裏有問題變大,這樣才能下次改進,所以如要看小轉的影片,可考慮看2006年的短片就行了,那個雖然比現在的動作還差,但至少還有滑出一點點higt C的位置出來。
我能滑出C彎,就代表我能一路都滑出C彎來,只是拍動作最主要的是要拍自己的弱項,有疑問的動作,而不是拍自己能做的很好的動作(這個對改進毫無幫助)。要拍最好的動作,等都改善後再來拍不就好了嗎?
ps.至於我講的方法,有練過才知道,用看的,只是用看的,多說並不能增加了解我在講什麼,也完全不能了解我在強調什麼東西(差一點點,差很多的)。
唉呀,您又在講我心中的痛了。:keroro (5):pku 寫:..
您能滑出1C彎, doesn't mean 您能一路都滑出C彎來. your thinking is prety funny, It is not 1+1=2
I ski the first 2 turns on a double black run perfect doesn't mean I can ski all the way down perfectly.
You ski the first 57 days with very good improvement doesn't mean you can keep the improvement on.
David Duval can't make much cut after he won the British Open
Your skiing is very static, no dynamic, as other said " like a stone "
your idot " BERND GREBER " skiing is so lively, his skiing is so fantastic because he skied a lot.
you need to ski a lot, not watch a lot to be a good skier.
繼續進步,對我來說,一點都不難,我只要有滑就一定會進步,這跟我的心法有很大的關係。pku 寫:..
You ski the first 57 days with very good improvement doesn't mean you can keep the improvement on.
您的小轉的片段很爛, that's true. Your long turns only have a proper stance but other thing is also only so sonorman 寫:唉呀,您又在講我心中的痛了。:keroro (5):
我現在一年能出門滑三天,就已經很燒香拜佛了,今年二月去滑雪三天,我已經2年沒滑過雪了,能保持跟2008年的動作實力,沒倒退已經很不錯了。:face (334):
要是明年能再出門滑雪,而我又有進步,那我已經算超強了,因為每年只滑三天,要進步是一件很難的事,我的家裏練習只是設計初期用的,而現在因為家裏練習對我的效果已不大,所以剛好有直排輪,就順便解悶練練了。
我也想一次出門就滑個十幾天,但這目前是不可能的任務,我沒被要求十年後才能出門滑雪,已經要感動的很了。
在台灣,要出門滑雪是一件有難度的事,要是台灣有個人工滑雪場,那我可能會常常往那邊跑吧?:face (334):
無論如何,再欣賞一下我另外找到的一個小轉的片段,這個也不是我的小轉正常的滑法,我正在試寬站姿小轉,想知道寬站姿到底是要站多寬,看了影片後,才發現,原來我的寬站姿站太寬了,有時想像及在滑時,拍出來的影片總是跟自己想像中有很大的距離。這個C彎應該比另一段完整一些了吧?坦白講,我覺得我的小轉還很爛,大彎稍勉強可以而已,等我大轉練到滿意時,我才會真正開始練中彎跟小轉,等小轉練到滿意時,我才會練饅頭,但這實在不知要等到哪年哪月,除非另一天我狠狠給他滑一個月,可能進步的速度就會加快不少了吧?
目前最多一年只能滑三天,也可能要兩三年才能出門一次,我也很想多滑幾天練習,依我的心法來計算,我只要再滑二十天就能開始練饅頭了,現在這個二十天就算等個六年後,還不一定能練到呢…所以您的建議很好,只是能不能出門滑雪,操控真的不在我。
nors.flv video by normankiss - Photobucket
Ps. 關於我說的C彎,指在正常有整理過的,就是微亂雪堆,我都能一路滑c彎下山,但如果說連遇上饅頭之類的地形,我當然就沒折了。但我之所以能這麼肯定,是跟我的理論練習有很大的關係的。
好奇問一下,他大約滑多少天了,我講的不是年份,而是總天數。pku 寫:您的小轉的片段很爛, that's true. Your long turns only have a proper stance but other thing is also only so so
My friend's short turn is much better
YouTube- Ski on April 4, 2010 (5)
He didn't ski big or medium turns, He only ski short turns.
I didn't ask him how many days he skied. I think for sure more than the days you skied and also I didn't ask him the total hours he skied because a lot of time we may skied only 1- 2 hour.norman 寫:好奇問一下,他大約滑多少天了,我講的不是年份,而是總天數。
我也承認,他滑得比我好很多,可是他跟我有相同的問題,而我的問題卻是可以輕易解決,他的問題要解決可能不太容易。
他一樣也有過度面谷的問題,上半身也是有一點搖晃,在重心轉換時還有一點點A字腳,只是天數滑了不少天,動作比較漂亮而已。
我的上半身及重心轉換A字腳的問題只要再十個滑雪天就能搞定了,等那時再拍小轉來分享給大家看囉。
不過10天對我來說,可能是兩年或四年後的事了,唉唉唉...:fm (36):
用節奏來分辨好壞,就有點狹溢了。pku 寫:I didn't ask him how many days he skied. I think for sure more than the days you skied and also I didn't ask him the total hours he skied because a lot of time we may skied only 1- 2 hour.
他滑得比您好很多, everybody is not blind can see it, your stance for an intermediate skier is quite good in the static position. you think your long turn is good but i think there is no rhythm and very stiff. Rhythm is one important thing to distinguish good and bad skiing.
他有很多的問題要解決不太容易, I also agree, but even he can't fix his problem, he still a pretty good recreation skier. He can ski ice, powder, slush, on groom, steep, trees , bumps. Even you think you can fix your problem in 10 days (2-3 years) later and he still have the same problem, he still can ski at least 2 times than you on most situation.
You think you can fix your problem in ten days because you don't really know your problem but you think you know everything.
As I mention earlier, you can't steer your skis in long turns but you just ignore it ( as usual , You always ignore other people's comment )
Steering is very important in short and there is not much time to do it, otherwise it will becaome a medium or lomg turn.
The second thing I see is you can't bend your joints much. you stand very tall. This will also hinder you to ski short turn and bumps.
See how much you idiot "BERND GREBER" can bend
Also after your more 10days skiing in 2-3 years you say this again " 能保持跟2008年的動作實力,沒倒退已經很不錯了 "
I don't see it's that hard to go skiing in Taiwan. Tokyo is only about 4 hour flight and is not too expensive. I think you just don't want to face the reality you can't really improve as you think.
One thing i think you misunderstand, we don't need to put 100% weight on the downhill (outside) ski. You always mention this. I think it's not quite right.