很利害的 csia 彎.

管他是好咖還是怪咖,只要是咖就能發言,有任何技術問題,在此討論就對啦。

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#1 很利害的 csia 彎.

文章 carver_hk » 週四 4月 15, 2010 9:44 am

YouTube- JF Beaulieu training in NZ August 19, 2009


正在 epics 那邊熱談中. :face (334):
http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/940 ... ing-skiing

(lelo 兄- 這高手的屈板明顯多了, 那直和彎的問題我沒意見了)


I love line graphic :face (334):

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文章 Vicente » 週四 4月 15, 2010 11:39 am

他的腳踝角度在phase 2, 3 時竟然可以壓到這麼小ㄝ, 利害, 利害.
:face (8)::face (8):

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文章 carver_hk » 週四 4月 15, 2010 11:56 am

Vicente 寫:他的腳踝角度在phase 2, 3 時竟然可以壓到這麼小, 利害, 利害.
:face (8)::face (8):
這就像一個迷, 雪鞋這麼硬都可以壓到這麼小. :face (46):
I love line graphic :face (334):

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文章 lelo » 週四 4月 15, 2010 12:29 pm

請問一下,hase 2, 3 指什麼?有圖表看一下嗎?

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文章 Vicente » 週四 4月 15, 2010 12:51 pm

lelo 寫:請問一下,phase 2, 3 指什麼?有圖表看一下嗎?
指的是Turn Phase.
Phase 1: Completion to Neutral
Phase 2: Neutral to Fall line
Phase 3: Fall line to Completion

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文章 norman » 週四 4月 15, 2010 1:02 pm

Vicente 寫:指的是Turn Phase.
Phase 1: Completion to Neutral
Phase 2: Neutral to Fall line
Phase 3: Fall line to Completion
一時找不到另一張圖,先給這張讓大家對照一下。:face (341):

圖檔
目前總滑天數80天。繼續累積中...我想滑雪。 :face (292): :face (292): :face (292):

滑雪人

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文章 lelo » 週四 4月 15, 2010 1:10 pm

會不會是因為他選用 Dalbello 的雪靴?

YouTube- Dalbello Krypton Ski Boots

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文章 norman » 週四 4月 15, 2010 8:38 pm

carver_hk 寫:YouTube- JF Beaulieu training in NZ August 19, 2009

正在 epics 那邊熱談中. :face (334):
http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/940 ... ing-skiing

(lelo 兄- 這高手的屈板明顯多了, 那直和彎的問題我沒意見了)
我不太確定,但看起來像是日式風格的滑法?:20070217220246:

再看他們的討論,以這短片中的技術來講,跟psia的方法是有出入的,所以好像只講風格不同的樣子。(不知有沒有看錯。)

就個人看這短片來講,我感覺這滑法的穩定度不夠高,因為high c的位置滑得實在太短了。
目前總滑天數80天。繼續累積中...我想滑雪。 :face (292): :face (292): :face (292):

滑雪人

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文章 snowrider » 週四 4月 15, 2010 9:48 pm

It's just our short radius turn. It's easier to ski like that with racing skis.

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文章 taichiskiing » 週四 4月 15, 2010 10:17 pm

carver_hk 寫:YouTube- JF Beaulieu training in NZ August 19, 2009

正在 epics 那邊熱談中. :face (334):
http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/940 ... ing-skiing

(lelo 兄- 這高手的屈板明顯多了, 那直和彎的問題我沒意見了)
不錯的轉彎滑雪,但是轉彎很規律又沒有變化—很呆板—他怎樣“利害”法子?

別人說他是level 4,但是我看不出level 4的performance,也看不出他的示範怎樣inspiring法‧比較一下,下面是我們“ski like a penguin league”(no-pole skiing) level 4 standard performance,
YouTube- All-mountain Skiing: free skiing


:)
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文章 snowrider » 週五 4月 16, 2010 8:51 am

taichiskiing 寫: ... “ski like a penguin league”level 4 standard performance,
...
I understand that you enjoy your own style very much, but it's just ... nonstandard.

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文章 skier666 » 週五 4月 16, 2010 9:44 am

看影片的人可以下2种結論。

1 這個人只會這樣滑
2 這個人不論滑那裏功力應該差不多

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文章 taichiskiing » 週五 4月 16, 2010 10:18 am

snowrider 寫:I understand that you enjoy your own style very much, but it's just ... nonstandard.
Actually, the skier was an ex PSIA clinician/L4, that's why "level 4 performance." Notice his white pass turns (around 1:18 sec) that he is so comfortable on them that white pass turns are no longer his "drill" but a "everyday" skiing technique, here's a photo shot,
http://www.taomartialarts.com/misc/oneleggedcarving.jpg

:)
IS

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文章 Vicente » 週五 4月 16, 2010 11:24 am

偶想說一下.
CSIA 主要有兩個部分, 技術和教學.

技術是建立在物理Physics和生物力學 biomechanics. 主要如下.
Turn Phase 講 movement patterns.
Skill 講 Stance and Balance, Pivoting, Edging, Pressure control and Timing and Coordination.
Plane of Balance 是評斷skier的能力.

CSIA 將Turn phase分成三個.
Phase 2: Neutral to fall line, pivoting or steering (pivoting + edging) etc…
Phase 3: Fall line to Completion, increasing ski edge by angulation etc…
Phase 1: Completion to Neutral, Releasing separation and edging etc…

CSIA skiing style是什麼? 將五個Skills 運用出來, 符合上述原則的就是,
Performance tactics: grooming 的雪道上用ILR or OLE etc...
All mountain tactics: gladed, mogul, powder.., 用down un-weight, up un-weight, hopping etc..
Park tactics: jump, 360 flip etc..

對skier而言, 這是想要的movements嗎? 已經到autonomous stage 或是才acquisition stage? 對Instructor或非本人, 則透過Plane of Balance, 分析Skier的能力.

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文章 snowrider » 週五 4月 16, 2010 12:53 pm

taichiskiing 寫:Actually, the skier was an ex PSIA clinician/L4, that's why "level 4 performance." Notice his white pass turns (around 1:18 sec) that he is so comfortable on them that white pass turns are no longer his "drill" but a "everyday" skiing technique, here's a photo shot,
http://www.taomartialarts.com/misc/oneleggedcarving.jpg

:)
IS
PSIA does not have level-4. Level-3 is its highest. After Level-3, one can move on to become an educator, examiner, or trainer etc. All Level-2 and above can do that White Pass turn as he does. It's pretty easy for me to do that too.

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文章 taichiskiing » 週五 4月 16, 2010 1:51 pm

snowrider 寫:PSIA does not have level-4. Level-3 is its highest. After Level-3, one can move on to become an educator, examiner, or trainer etc. All Level-2 and above can do that White Pass turn as he does. It's pretty easy for me to do that too.
Yup, in the old days, "educator, examiner, or trainer," as well as "clinician" (maybe obsolete) were considered as L4. Yes, basically, all basic drills/training for teaching PSIA are done by the time one gets his/her leve-2 cert; nevertheless, the difference between L2 and L3 is that L2 though know how to perform all the techniques mechanically but lack of L3's smooth fluidity, just as well, L3's performance lack of the "soul"/靈氣 comparing to L4's performance.

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